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Brandonjffrs96

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Nov 2, 2019
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98 GSX at 74k miles slight rust damage. i do have the side panels as well as the heat shield, i just have them off at the moment. the only thing that the car needs is the hatch cargo cover thing, which i can get down the road.

How bad would you rate the rust on a scale of 1 to 10. how hard would it be for me and my brother who both have slight experience in the field to fix? hes good with cars in general and im a welder whos worked on classics since a kid. all the rust shown is the only rust on the car.

The only Things im aware of mod wise would be wires and all that for a sound system. A rear posi. stock turbo (T something) is at about 15-17Ibs. lowering springs. Obviously the tach and gauge pods. also the white face speedo cluster.

recently got bashed on by just a few guys because i posted something about how this kid offered me $1,800 from NY and i said he needed to get educated. for the most part it was just a friendly topic and a funny post to come across. anyways i was actually quite surprised on how many people really thought that my REAL GSX was worth anything under 2k. so im just curious what you fellow DSM guys think shes worth. i must admit there is rust damage. unfortunately i wasn't aware of that when i bought the car other than the slight bit on the tower, hatch, and hood.

everything that you see in the pics and that i listed are whats wrong or needed for the car. ive driven it on several occasions on trips that are 6-12 hours and she didn't give me a single issue. so people who bash on the reliability are wrong. if you take care of them they do last. other than that i believe thats everything so lmk what you guys thing its worth.
 

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With the rust damage it does take the value down unfortunately. It's not the worst I've see, but it takes alot of time to address all that properly, so that is how some factor cost in.
That interior is excellent though, and if all the mechanical Stuff is in order, I'd say someone would be willing to pay 3500-4k.
Could honestly part it out for considerably more, then whoever buys the shell could address the rust without as much work.

Either way, 1800 seems like a low-ball, maybe 2800 would be closer. Rust suxs though, that's could be a gem if it wasn't rotting :(
 
i honestly paid $5,500 on the spot LOL. seemed like a steal, which it could be if i save her. how much would you think this car would be worth if i got every spec of rust taken care of? no stains dents or what not. what would this be worth if i spent the time and money into getting her back to day 1 quality (other than the obvious things like the tach and gauges). im considering going that route with this car and maybe just get another gsx that doesnt already have rust but has already been somewhat built. so id have a no rust 600 plus wheel GSX as well as a mostly stock no rust gem.
 
With the rust damage it does take the value down unfortunately. It's not the worst I've see, but it takes alot of time to address all that properly, so that is how some factor cost in.
That interior is excellent though, and if all the mechanical Stuff is in order, I'd say someone would be willing to pay 3500-4k.
Could honestly part it out for considerably more, then whoever buys the shell could address the rust without as much work.

Either way, 1800 seems like a low-ball, maybe 2800 would be closer. Rust suxs though, that's could be a gem if it wasn't rotting :(
but if the majority of people think these cars are never going to go up in value then id almost like to just get rid of it and try to break even
 
It’s going to be a while before they go up in value. In all cases with any car, the condition will dictate the price point. Imo a mint 2g gsx can sell for $10k to the right person.

It will take a lot of work to get all the rust off, but doable. Obviously not a good sign if you can poke through the rust.

Sorry but I think you overpaid.
 
I agree. Rust is cancer for cars, and you never know how bad it really is unless you take the car apart and get everything blasted and cleaned up. If you do fix the car you are going to have a lot of time and money in it. In it's current condition I wouldn't consider buying it, just because of how much work to get it back right. But hey I'm sure there's someone out there that would buy it, not for 5,500 though.
 
With all of the rust repaired properly (not just bondo'ed and/or sanded/painted), all the exterior pieces properly affixed, the clearcoat refreshed, new belts/hoses/fluids, all mechanical bits in order, and only a slight scrub shifting into 2nd, I'd be willing to pay up to $8-9k for a 74k mile 2Gb GSX. But I'm also an enthusiast who puts too much sentimental value in these cars. Most others who aren't would rather buy something newer instead at that price point.
 
Agree with @TK's9d2TSi and @DamionGST , you definitely overpaid unfortunately, but if you could do the work yourself or have low cost help, it's saveable, but it's going to take a ton of time and work to get right.

Completely fixed, easy 9-10k (at least that's what it should go for) if not more depending on the market in the future. 10-15 years from now, I'd say significantly more personally.

If you have the passion, skill and time/money go for it and save a dying breed. If I were more body work oriented I wouldn't hesitate, but I have body work with a firey passion... Lol.

@delta448 is right on I think as well.
 
I paid 7k for my gst spyder last yr and that's with 30k miles on it completely stock no rust underneath. Not one modification besides an upgraded touch screen. A completely stock low mile gsx i could see going for 10k but the right buyer has to come along. Caus everyone is gona throw the "well kkb has it listed at this" card on you.
 
i appreciate your thoughts on this. i was getting called more than dumb for saying these cars could go for 10 plus but obviously they do to the right person. unfortunately for me it does appear that i overpaid for the car but screw it. i do love the car and plan on restoring it to the best of my capabilities but i think with the rust damage i might end up adding some performance parts which i already have. unless anyone wants to trade me a rust free car LOL
 
98 GSX at 74k miles slight rust damage. i do have the side panels as well as the heat shield, i just have them off at the moment. the only thing that the car needs is the hatch cargo cover thing, which i can get down the road.

How bad would you rate the rust on a scale of 1 to 10. how hard would it be for me and my brother who both have slight experience in the field to fix? hes good with cars in general and im a welder whos worked on classics since a kid. all the rust shown is the only rust on the car.

The only Things im aware of mod wise would be wires and all that for a sound system. A rear posi. stock turbo (T something) is at about 15-17Ibs. lowering springs. Obviously the tach and gauge pods. also the white face speedo cluster.

recently got bashed on by just a few guys because i posted something about how this kid offered me $1,800 from NY and i said he needed to get educated. for the most part it was just a friendly topic and a funny post to come across. anyways i was actually quite surprised on how many people really thought that my REAL GSX was worth anything under 2k. so im just curious what you fellow DSM guys think shes worth. i must admit there is rust damage. unfortunately i wasn't aware of that when i bought the car other than the slight bit on the tower, hatch, and hood.

everything that you see in the pics and that i listed are whats wrong or needed for the car. ive driven it on several occasions on trips that are 6-12 hours and she didn't give me a single issue. so people who bash on the reliability are wrong. if you take care of them they do last. other than that i believe thats everything so lmk what you guys thing its worth.

The rust is the biggest drop in value and sadly plagues dsm's :(

The rear subframe looks pretty bad and the tie rod bar. Those could probably be bolted off and have a rust free one replaced however that isn't cheap and probably not easy as those bolts are probably welded in by rust. The strut towers look good on the top, but I bet you that the bottom is rotted thru (the strut towers have two sheets of metal in some places). The rear quarter panels are gone so no saving those unless if you weld in some metal. I would say 2,000 for this car as little as that seems. If you fix all the rust aka restore the entire thing then 8,500 would be a good price. There is someone around me selling a 95 gsx for 2,500
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I think your dsm is worth at the most 2,500 but probably more like 1,800-2,000 as it is now...
 
The rust is the biggest drop in value and sadly plagues dsm's :(

The rear subframe looks pretty bad and the tie rod bar. Those could probably be bolted off and have a rust free one replaced however that isn't cheap and probably not easy as those bolts are probably welded in by rust. The strut towers look good on the top, but I bet you that the bottom is rotted thru (the strut towers have two sheets of metal in some places). The rear quarter panels are gone so no saving those unless if you weld in some metal. I would say 2,000 for this car as little as that seems. If you fix all the rust aka restore the entire thing then 8,500 would be a good price. There is someone around me selling a 95 gsx for 2,500
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I think your dsm is worth at the most 2,500 but probably more like 1,800-2,000 as it is now...
Money isn’t an issue at the moment. I’m willing to drop 20-30k into the car total. If I can get every spec of rust taken care of within 5k (just for rust not paint or prep) then I’m willing to save the car. I love this thing more than I love most people LOL jk and I don’t plan on selling it so how much would you or anyone else assume the price would be to get this car near perfect shape
 
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They do seem to be gaining momentum.
I swear one day these are going to be as sought after as evo’s and 3000gt’s. I’ve met many other people who think the same. I would like to get mine in perfect shape with zero rust in general but especially for that day. My little brother wants a Gsx in perfect shape as well. Doesn’t have to be stock just no rust. Told him to get one now after I heard how little mine was actually worth LOL
 
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The rust is the biggest drop in value and sadly plagues dsm's :(

The rear subframe looks pretty bad and the tie rod bar. Those could probably be bolted off and have a rust free one replaced however that isn't cheap and probably not easy as those bolts are probably welded in by rust. The strut towers look good on the top, but I bet you that the bottom is rotted thru (the strut towers have two sheets of metal in some places). The rear quarter panels are gone so no saving those unless if you weld in some metal. I would say 2,000 for this car as little as that seems. If you fix all the rust aka restore the entire thing then 8,500 would be a good price. There is someone around me selling a 95 gsx for 2,500
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I think your dsm is worth at the most 2,500 but probably more like 1,800-2,000 as it is now...
How difficult would the process be you think? My brother and I have some skill when it comes to cars and such. I’m a great welder for my age and succeeded in that field quite well. My brothers just a know it all when it comes to cars and motors. Do you think we could take care of the rust? He have a small “shop” and a lot of dedication and respect for these cars.
 
Agree with @TK's9d2TSi and @DamionGST , you definitely overpaid unfortunately, but if you could do the work yourself or have low cost help, it's saveable, but it's going to take a ton of time and work to get right.

Completely fixed, easy 9-10k (at least that's what it should go for) if not more depending on the market in the future. 10-15 years from now, I'd say significantly more personally.

If you have the passion, skill and time/money go for it and save a dying breed. If I were more body work oriented I wouldn't hesitate, but I have body work with a firey passion... Lol.

@delta448 is right on I think as well.
What do you reckon price wise from if I were to do it all by myself so just parts coast no labor. to if I were to have a professional body shop do it so full labor coast and what not. Really wanna save the car man. Michigan sucks when it comes to nice cars and Michigan definitely left her mark on this one. Really sucks.
 
Tough to say on parts cost as I don't know what you have tool-wise and I haven't physically seen the car. Most of the cost is consumables and paint stuff, plus whatever the replacement sheet metal costs, and that all depends on if you for it yourself or buy patch panels.

I'd venture a guess that if you have the minimum tools necessary for doing the work, you'll spend 1500-2500 on body repairs, then whatever paint a finish bodywork will cost. If you did that yourself, figure on doubling your cost roughly. That's super ballpark and vague, but it's hard to say given the circumstances.

If you have the skills, time and resources, save it.

I was in Michigan last year and was boggled at how bad new cars were destroyed. 2012+ cars just eaten out from the rockers up. I saw a ~2012-2014 subaru that was essentially worthless and unfit to drive IMO due to the severity of it's cancer, you could see through the front rocker. It's crazy over there.
 
Tough to say on parts cost as I don't know what you have tool-wise and I haven't physically seen the car. Most of the cost is consumables and paint stuff, plus whatever the replacement sheet metal costs, and that all depends on if you for it yourself or buy patch panels.

I'd venture a guess that if you have the minimum tools necessary for doing the work, you'll spend 1500-2500 on body repairs, then whatever paint a finish bodywork will cost. If you did that yourself, figure on doubling your cost roughly. That's super ballpark and vague, but it's hard to say given the circumstances.

If you have the skills, time and resources, save it.

I was in Michigan last year and was boggled at how bad new cars were destroyed. 2012+ cars just eaten out from the rockers up. I saw a ~2012-2014 subaru that was essentially worthless and unfit to drive IMO due to the severity of it's cancer, you could see through the front rocker. It's crazy over there.
its truly a joke man. our governor keeps saying that our taxes and gas money goes towards our roads yet its been 5 years or so and our roads are still shit and they put tons of salt on the roads even though itll be 60 degrees the next day and itll all melt. i hate this state LOL
 
Tough to say on parts cost as I don't know what you have tool-wise and I haven't physically seen the car. Most of the cost is consumables and paint stuff, plus whatever the replacement sheet metal costs, and that all depends on if you for it yourself or buy patch panels.

I'd venture a guess that if you have the minimum tools necessary for doing the work, you'll spend 1500-2500 on body repairs, then whatever paint a finish bodywork will cost. If you did that yourself, figure on doubling your cost roughly. That's super ballpark and vague, but it's hard to say given the circumstances.

If you have the skills, time and resources, save it.

I was in Michigan last year and was boggled at how bad new cars were destroyed. 2012+ cars just eaten out from the rockers up. I saw a ~2012-2014 subaru that was essentially worthless and unfit to drive IMO due to the severity of it's cancer, you could see through the front rocker. It's crazy over there.
my brother and i have always been mechanically inclined so i think we could do it. my father has a lot of body shop parts from his old shop. he has years of experience and a great painter. so from you said i think i could get the rust and paint taken care of under 10k which is fine with me to bring her back to life.
 
If you can find a place to sandblast all those parts, it would save you so much time
so the best thing for me would be to strip the car down in a nice garage, send what needs to be blasted in to get blasted. fix the rust from there. put everything back together, wet sand the car, spray the car and what not (my father would know). seems about right to me. time to get started.
 
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