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Steve92talon

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Jul 3, 2019
Fernie, BC_Canada
So if anyone follows motionauto on YouTube his next build is a 1st gen eclipse using a evo plug and play adapter for the ecumaster black ecu. To have a modern fast computer to tune with. He was dissatisfied with ecmlink and its limited capabilities. I plan this same set up so I'm excited to see if it's really as easy as plugging in the ecu to our stock connectors and loading a tune. Its built in map eliminates the maf as well. If anyone wants to tune in it might be a new break through for any dsm. Imagine a plug in stand alone computer that's fast and even has self learning to make tuning so easy.
 
Sounds interesting. He is just starting the install so I will be waiting to see if he finishes it and if it's a simple job or if it's a failure
 
I offered to tune his DSM for him as I am local to him. He did not bother taking me up on my offer. He is would just rather stay close minded and not even give it a chance. That computer would have taken the car farther than he is capable of doing so.

With that said. Any computer can take you just about anywhere you want to go.
 
Yeah, I mean.... people used to buy honda AEM's because they were cheaper and wire them into their DSMs.
@bastarddsm - what processor are you using if you don't mind sharing?

Any of the "evo 6-9" (2g) ecu's will work in a 1g DSM if you tune it properly and do the pin swaps in your ecu harness AND have an adapter harness to go from your DSM ecu harness to the EVO/2G ecu...... this isn't a breakthrough that this guy is using ECU Masters Black on his car. I helped tune my brother's RB25 swapped R32 that he used ECU Masters Black on and wasn't impressed with the software interface. The ecu runs the car fine, there's no problem there... but you can have the most capable hardware and if your software sucks to use or there is software that has more features or is easy to use, people like me will find other places to spend our money.

I like ECMLink, even though i've never owned one or used one on my personal car, but I do agree that it is lipstick on a pig. The 1g ecu for these cars is like super nintendo technology..... compare that to the types of video games we have today and that's the difference you're seeing in quality/speed of processing in modern ecu's vs. the ones from 1990. Just because you slapped a game genie on your super nintendo doesn't mean you're now playing PS4 quality video games.
 
It's kind of a break through? I haven't seen any one say there running this ECU on a 1g. he has used it in 2 supra builds and his datsun 510 I think. If he gets it working pretty easily my 92 may very well get the exact same upgrade. I have a spare harness and injectors and ignition coil so i can easily bench set up a complete harness, computer and all the components with a drill maybe for the rpm. To make sure its able to fire all the plugs and injectors. I'm planning to dump the cop and go stock coil and plug wires since I'm not looking for max drag power. Just a decent 20psi street car. The stock computer has a lot of limitations.
 
Looks like he will just give up like his other builds he abandons. It's not a plug and play thing cause it's a old dinosaur not a evo. So I'm shit out of luck in just plugging it in as well.
 
Yea his next video was how to paint his Civic roll cage. Don’t get me wrong he has some badass cars and paints extremely well but he’s falling into the niche of many YouTube channels have went to; too many projects going on at once! I’m losing interest in his channel due to that fact, not to mention he kinda seems arrogant AF LOL! Anyway even Boostedboiz have started way too many builds at the moment. I’ve gravitated to PFI Speed because they show a lot of dynoing a variety of cars and focusing 75% of their time to one build setting up their next build on the side. Regardless I’ll be watching any channel where a DSM is the focus!
 
Yeah buddy if u watch long enough u will know the 4x4 van sitting beside the shop has been there over 2 years now. All it needs is a motor put in it. Many many of his "builds" just get half done and shoved to the side and disappear. Least the goonzsquad finished 90% of anything they start and give decent updates. His buddy Dave has a much better channel starting up. Look up junkyard Dave LOL. There is a very good reason hes under 500k in subs after many years on YouTube.
 
I forgot to mention he has the motor for the van already. Hes make reference to it a few times its sitting in the shop under the racks. But yeah it sits in every video from out side his shop and whenever he washes a car. The van almost blocks his entrance door ha ha.
 
Where does he get his money? I know it’s not running a shop because the guy has ADHD or something and can’t stay focused. I could only imagine what his accountant would say. You know it’s very aggravating to see guys with cool just sitting wasting away while another person that works hard and builds what he can budget would die for the stuff. He drifts, he builds project cars and tears them up and invest more than it would have cost to buy a K swapped built AWD 9 second Civic. Oh well, all this from a guy with his car down in the driveway with nothing but a parts list in one hand and his “stick” in the other
 
I remember seeing a video suggestion of his and enjoyed it. I’m subscribed but haven’t checked it out recently
Hes rebuilding a hellcat widebody and fi fishing off the 3000gt and a fc rx7. Has his own garage now so he wont be on Trevor's channel much anymore
 
Where does he get his money? I know it’s not running a shop because the guy has ADHD or something and can’t stay focused. I could only imagine what his accountant would say. You know it’s very aggravating to see guys with cool just sitting wasting away while another person that works hard and builds what he can budget would die for the stuff. He drifts, he builds project cars and tears them up and invest more than it would have cost to buy a K swapped built AWD 9 second Civic. Oh well, all this from a guy with his car down in the driveway with nothing but a parts list in one hand and his “stick” in the other
He gets a ton of stuff free. all his ecu master suff is free I think. Milwaukee power tools all free or very cheap. I think the Audi r8 will kill his budget.
 
I can’t imagine that car being very cheap to build. He’ll have to finish all his builds laying around to sell just to fund that car! I try not to hate because I don’t have any crazy builds or tons of money but there are just some people male or female that you just don’t like. He may be in that category for me. Bashing done hopefully he finishes the Panda and does it justice!
 
The stock 1g ecu has run 7’s with link. Sounds pretty capable to me.
The only issue with link that can cause problems is it doesn’t control big nitrous shots very well.
 
I would not say that is true. Granted we have never experimented with any kind of a progressive system but, we have run a 300hp dry shot on a dsm with dsmlink and not hurt a motor specifically from the nitrous.

I find it hilarious that people idolize these goons on YouTube as if they are some kind of professionals. Sure, I watch some of it. It is for nothing more than entertainment. The more I watch MotionAuto, the more of an idiot and amateur he is proving himself to be. The only thing on paper that he seems to have a grasp of is body work. He is not saint and thousands of people are capable of everything he knows and more.

Stick to the forum and listen to what everyone here has to say. Not everything on the internet or YouTube is true or correct.
 
A newer computer that can run individual ignition coils and sequential fuel injection would give gains for just a street driven car? Not just drag strip full throttle stuff? My car wont see a drag strip in its life time but a better smoother runner is ideal.
 
A newer computer that can run individual ignition coils and sequential fuel injection would give gains for just a street driven car? Not just drag strip full throttle stuff? My car wont see a drag strip in its life time but a better smoother runner is ideal.
I’ve put 5,000+ miles in a week on my 1g with link. Was getting around 30 mpg on the highway with 91 octane, but just filled up with e85 when I got where I was going because dsmlink flexfuel works fine.


The only time you really need more than link is if you plan on using a lot of user defined ins/outs.
 
Sure love to fix my 3000rpm cold starts now winter is close by it revs like crazy.
 
I’ve put 5,000+ miles in a week on my 1g with link. Was getting around 30 mpg on the highway with 91 octane, but just filled up with e85 when I got where I was going because dsmlink flexfuel works fine.


The only time you really need more than link is if you plan on using a lot of user defined ins/outs.

I don't agree. Link cannot do traction control, rolling anti-lag, spark cut anti-lag, it cannot do drive by wire, it is limited on the size/resolution of the maps, it is limited on inputs/outputs as you mentioned, and the processor in the ECU is very outdated/slow by today's standards.... affecting the samples per second and channels that can be logged simultaneously.

It cornholes people into knowing how to tune only link. Most of the people that struggle to learn tuning w/ Link are going to be very lost trying to mess with anything else used in the industry.

I'd buy an aftermarket ECU before messing w/ the stock ECU if you're serious about being able to control your car in a fine grained fashion. Any ecu w/ the ability to tune fuel/timing can get good MPG out of a car that is set up well.
 
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I went faster with old ass DSMAP and making the whole pass in about 3 cells on the map, than I have with my new fangled ecu. Datalogging can be very detrimental to driving. This isn't a F1 team where you have a team of guys to analysize the data and a pro driver, and and private track rentals where you can do the same thing multiple times to get it right. Having too much data and trying to do too much of the driving with the ecu can get in the way of just getting in the car and driving.... and that's what really needs to happen with grassroots guys.

quite honestly, I still belive that the OEM dsm ecu is far far more robust than any stand alone out there. I'd wager that not even considering inflation, mitsubishi's budget to develop the dsm ecu far far outweighs haltech, aem, MS, link, proefi, and motecs combined current networth. Yes, the processor is slow, but if you write efficient code it doesn't need to be fast. The only part that actually requires speed is the wheel decoder, and the spark scheduling, and that exact part of the calculations has the full, priority of the processor. Fuel is on such a large time scale, it's irrelavent.

If you are clever, you can do any of the requested things with ecmlink, it might just take an add on box. And to be fair literally every standalone needs some kind of add on box to get the full features out of it.
 
A newer ecu like the ecu master has self tuning abilities so all u do it drive it and it fixes fuel and spark hands free. That's a big bonus for the amateur like me.
 
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