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Man there is just so much missinformation out there. Literally 9/10 times I search for something all the posts are guys who have no clue, never owned one, or never even tried it speaking up the loudest. It's really driven me away as why waste the keystrokes when it will just get drowned in all the noise. Idk if it's as bad as it used to be, but it was always guys with a ton of clout that were guilty too.
Even this thread has a bunch of bad info. *Hint, if you haven't bought a ppg/par/liberty, used one, built one, built a trans for money, or even manufactured a part, you should probably edit your post.

Anyway, I put a ppg in my car this year, and its honestly perfectly streetable, IF you can drive. Yes it can be a pita, yes it makes noise, but it's not that bad. I drove mine in Chicago traffic no prob. You just have to think ahead and tell it what to do. No second guessing. I had a liberty before it, and it was the same. The wear I saw on the liberty was pretty minor after a lot of street miles. I suspect the ppg will be similar. I'll have it apart this winter for inspection.

My biggest complaint about the ppg is the super tall first gear. It's hard on the clutch.

Ppg/par can do anything. Even liberty or gforce can do it. We just gotta get 50people with $5k to spend together.

As for stock shit and getting sliders made, imho we should work on a 2g type 3/4 hub/slider. Lots more of those gears around, and the bigger synchro.
 
Any thoughts on the dogs wearing? Have you had yours serviced? If so, how many miles in?
I need to use it more to know but I think it doesn't wear much. I put this transmission as new early 2018 and I don't open it yet I just did the first oil change a couple of months ago. It probably had a bit more than a year and around 1000 miles with a couple of launches and many high way pulls with low-mid boost like 35-45psi w/ 6765 turbo. (the car already doesn't have a stock cluster so I am not sure how many miles exactly it had) I expected much some silver-ish flake powder in gear oil but I saw almost no silver flake powder (could barely see a little with a flashlight), and the magnetic drain plug was very clean too. I saw only a little bit of brass flake powder from stock 5-R synchro rings (I use PPG 1-4 and DSM 5th). The gear oil was very clear like new.
Anyway, I put a ppg in my car this year, and its honestly perfectly streetable, IF you can drive. Yes it can be a pita, yes it makes noise, but it's not that bad. I drove mine in Chicago traffic no prob. You just have to think ahead and tell it what to do. No second guessing. I had a liberty before it, and it was the same. The wear I saw on the liberty was pretty minor after a lot of street miles. I suspect the ppg will be similar. I'll have it apart this winter for inspection.
Agree with that. That's what I was saying, too, all depends how much you can accept.
 
Thanks for the notes on what wear you guys have noticed with your dogboxes, DSMPT and bastarddsm.

@DSMPT That video of the PPG 300ZX is pretty helpful. I appreciate it.
Earlier this year I bought a good microphone (AT4050) and a good field recorder (MixPre-6) and I want to try to get some good quality in-car sound. Project for next year I think LOL.
An acquaintance of mine here drives around in a beautiful 300ZX at "low boost 650 whp" (this car spent 4 years at BBT Performance in Vancouver Washington) and he says he can't do a WOT pull in 2nd gear because it breaks loose (street tires). That video shows it perfectly at 1:32 LOL Sure do like AWD.

Have you gotten your Boostin shifter yet?
 
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