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Even though my race car is a 2G, I have always had a special place for 1Gs.
The 96GST that I picked up a few months ago was traded for a 93 awd Talon last night. I go pick it up tomorrow.

What's your preference and why?
I like the style of the 2G's (I owned a 1997 GSX), that being said, the 1G's have the 6 bolt engine while the 2G's have the 7 bolt engine. With the 6 bolt, you won't have to worry about Crankwalk, which is a huge plus
 
I like the style of the 2G's (I owned a 1997 GSX), that being said, the 1G's have the 6 bolt engine while the 2G's have the 7 bolt engine. With the 6 bolt, you won't have to worry about Crankwalk, which is a huge plus

crankwalk can happen on any car so its no suprise if it happens
 
I'll agree to an extent, I'm 6'2", 240lb and while the headroom is lacking a bit in my 1g, I don't feel as cramped otherwise.
The 2g I still don't have enough headroom in (damn long torso), but I feel so cramped in there side-to-side and legroom wise. And the side tightness isn't in a good, hold-you-in-the-seat kinda way, for me at least.

Tough for us tall guys to fit our altitude in any of these cars I think ROFL I can fit much better in my mx3, that car is strangely spacious and comfy for it's micro size.

I'd be curious if y'all are taking into account the difference in headroom for a 2g with a sunroof vs. without. It's about an extra 2-3" without a sunroof. I love them both for different reasons; For me, the gold standard being a 2gb with a 6bolt swap.
 
if you really want to know on crankwalk and cars it happens the most on

Any car can crankwalk, but Mitsubishi Eclipses, Plymouth Lasers, and Eagle Talons with a 7-bolt motor are notorious for this problem. No recall was ever released as the problem was said to be isolated to a bad batch of cranks, which represented a fraction of the produced cars. Various theories of why crankwalk occurs and what years are most suseptible exist, but none are proven. General consenus is poor oil flow is one cause, and later model years seem to suffer less.

Contrary to popular opinion, any car can crankwalk; Manual, auto, import, domestic, turbo, manual, racecar, beater. All have walked, and all have a chance of walking.
 
I am blessed to have a couple 1g's and my one 2gb Talon TSI, which I do admit looks pretty dam cool.
My Camaro collection is over on the Thirdgen.org board....:p
Yes, my friends, I have a car "problem" LOL
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if you really want to know on crankwalk and cars it happens the most on

Any car can crankwalk, but Mitsubishi Eclipses, Plymouth Lasers, and Eagle Talons with a 7-bolt motor are notorious for this problem. No recall was ever released as the problem was said to be isolated to a bad batch of cranks, which represented a fraction of the produced cars. Various theories of why crankwalk occurs and what years are most suseptible exist, but none are proven. General consenus is poor oil flow is one cause, and later model years seem to suffer less.

Contrary to popular opinion, any car can crankwalk; Manual, auto, import, domestic, turbo, manual, racecar, beater. All have walked, and all have a chance of walking.

I have just finished up 2 6 bolt short block builds and the crank out of my auto car was dam near perfect in end play. The other motor was out of a 90 standard trans car and, while it is still well within spec, it isn't near as close to the original value from when it was built and I say it is from dry bearings, pressing in on a clutch pedal and pressing the thrust bearing while it has no oil yet. Just an opinion though.
 
honestly I think it really does come down to oil flow... poor oil flow in the bearings can also cause a lot of knock along with crank walk in these engines if oil pump gets upgraded to a high volume oil pump it would potentially eliminate the issues with bearings always going out (that's what I did) and always check the oil on change... metal shavings in oil mean rod, thrust, and main bearings are getting worn down from lack of oil
 
Even though my race car is a 2G, I have always had a special place for 1Gs.
The 96GST that I picked up a few months ago was traded for a 93 awd Talon last night. I go pick it up tomorrow.

What's your preference and why?

I still have my 91 GSX and even though I've always loved the 2G body style I cant help but to love my 1G.
 
1ga all the way, the styling of the popup headlights cant be beat. The stock rims are pretty meh on the 1g and the styling of the 2g exterior is really eye catching but something about the 6 bolt and cockpit feel of the 1g is amazing.
 
I like the style of the 2G's (I owned a 1997 GSX), that being said, the 1G's have the 6 bolt engine while the 2G's have the 7 bolt engine. With the 6 bolt, you won't have to worry about Crankwalk, which is a huge plus
Haha I've got a 6 bolt in a 92 tsi awd that would strongly argue against that point....its even low mileage which is a shame.

Ive only owned/drove 1g's but ive ridden in 2g's and i much prefer the interior of the 1g's. The 2gs feel like a grandma car inside like a ford turas or mercury sable. The 1g's are also built like tanks compared to the 2g's as well, 1g's actually feel like a well built car. One thing that can't be argued period is the 2g's are sexy af! Everyone tells me to get rid of the 1g's and get a 2g or even better an evo...i just say evo tax??! No thanks
 
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I have just finished up 2 6 bolt short block builds and the crank out of my auto car was dam near perfect in end play. The other motor was out of a 90 standard trans car and, while it is still well within spec, it isn't near as close to the original value from when it was built and I say it is from dry bearings, pressing in on a clutch pedal and pressing the thrust bearing while it has no oil yet. Just an opinion though.


Ive been disabling the neutral safety switch in every DSM Ive ever owned since 2002 for this reason
 
All my stick shift DSM's are that way too!
 
I've always LOVED the look of 1Gs. A lowered 1G with some nice wide 17"s looks like a pitbull driving around. The 2g looks great under the same circumstances too. I think the 1G gets a bad rap because it doesn't look good stock. I'm not a flashy guy but my absolute favorite mods to my current 1g are the Feal coilovers and my rpf1s. It just makes all the difference in the world, whereas you could do nothing to a stock 2g and it will look good. As I sit here typing, I'm looking at my profile pic to the left and the car, looks like a fighter jet. The 1Gs can be so short and wide that I think it looks great.
 
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I can't say I love one more than the other. I've had both and I liked both for different reasons. If I could only have one it would probably be a 1g just for the pure sentimental side, since that was my first one and I like how overbuilt they were due to the chassis being shared with the GVR-4, which Mitsu used in rally racing at the time. The 2g chassis didn't have the same chassis stiffness from the factory - not to say that can't be solved with custom work, but I just like the way the 1g was built with that in mind.

I'm a sucker for the late 80's early 90's design period too but I know I'm in the minority that way.
 
I can't say I love one more than the other. I've had both and I liked both for different reasons. If I could only have one it would probably be a 1g just for the pure sentimental side, since that was my first one and I like how overbuilt they were due to the chassis being shared with the GVR-4, which Mitsu used in rally racing at the time. The 2g chassis didn't have the same chassis stiffness from the factory - not to say that can't be solved with custom work, but I just like the way the 1g was built with that in mind.

I'm a sucker for the late 80's early 90's design period too but I know I'm in the minority that way.

You are not the only one sir, hell if I could invent a time machine I would go back to this period in a heartbeat and the sole reason is not just the car scene.. ;)
 
Agree that the interior feels so much more comfy/more fulfilling to drive than the 2g. I even prefer using the doors on a 1G, not having to worry about the handles breaking or tightening the glass every couple years is nice.
Everyone who’s owned a 1G has noticed there’s a smell that’s specific to these cars. Idk what it is or why I like it, but it’s refreshing to get a wiff if I haven’t been in one for a long time.
 
Agree that the interior feels so much more comfy/more fulfilling to drive than the 2g. I even prefer using the doors on a 1G, not having to worry about the handles breaking or tightening the glass every couple years is nice.
Everyone who’s owned a 1G has noticed there’s a smell that’s specific to these cars. Idk what it is or why I like it, but it’s refreshing to get a wiff if I haven’t been in one for a long time.
I noticed that too. Wonder if it's the sound deadening material or the foam in the seats or something. But I know exactly what you're talking about.
 
I noticed that too. Wonder if it's the sound deadening material or the foam in the seats or something. But I know exactly what you're talking about.
Or maybe it's that 1G owners are full of poo and it gets ground into the seats? LoL! I kid, I kid...
 
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