matt50317
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- Jun 26, 2013
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Des Moines,
Iowa
I have had past experience with them, not so good of an experience. That's why I was asking.
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I would remove that pump and replace it. If for anything else .....peace of mind. At the minimum buy an acl pump.I bought one of these pumps to use on my current rebuild in progress. I'm on this thread because I noticed out of the box that the oil pump shaft seal wasn't fully pressed in, it was actually seated crooked. When I pressed it in all the way, it appears to possibly be too far in. I checked my original OEM front case and it seems like there is a decent amount of space between the back of the seal and the bearing part of the oil pump shaft, whereas in the ACL pump, there is hardly any gap. Hopefully this doesn't give me any issues. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I'm almost anticipating a leak.
Also noticed that the crank seal wasnt pressed in all the way. Not the end of the world, but the fact that those 2 simple things made it through quality control kind of scare me. Especially on something as precise and crucial as an oil pump.
I would remove that pump and replace it. If for anything else .....peace of mind. At the minimum buy an acl pump.
Ah, As far as the seal.... i understand what your trying to say about the seal but would have to see it to make any real judgement.The pump I'm talking about here is an ACL pump.
Really? I havent had any problems .... yet. Knock on woodI found a link on ecmlink today where a lot of people were complaining about the poor quality they saw with the acl pump.
If I were a business I would not refund you the gaskets. Thry werent the problem. Just my 2 cents. That stuff is cheap anyway.An update. I will never opt to run one of these on any engine again. I got my engine mostly assembled and finally added oil and primed it, only to find a leak between the ACL front case and my oil filter bracket. OEM gaskets were used and all parts were installed following the procedure outlined in the FSM. Everything was perfectly dry and cleaned using brake clean and coffee filters.
To spend months and thousands of dollars building an engine only to have it 75% assembled on the stand and find out that a poorly made oil pump is going to set your build back even more time and money is a tremendous disappointment.
From having the crank and oil sprocket seals not pressed in fully or straight, to the oil pan bolt threads being slightly off enough to force me to modify my pan to fit, to now finding this leak, I do not trust this pump enough to run it on my engine.
Now I have to drain out all of the break in oil I literally just poured in, compromise my brand new OEM gaskets for the front case, oil filter bracket, turbo return, oil pickup, and my balance shaft plug. As well as pull and clean the RTV off of my oil pan/mating surface AGAIN.
My choice to purchase this oil pump has set my build time back and cost me an unnecessary amount of extra labor and money spent for me to have anything good to say about it at all.
From what I hear, some people have success with these pumps. I am not one of those people. I am really hoping that Extremepsi will take care of me as far as refunding me the cost of the pump and sending me all new gaskets and seals that are now rendered useless by this poor quality product. Otherwise, this is going to be a big hit on my build having to buy another set of gaskets along with a new OEM pump.
My reccomendation: DO NOT USE THIS PUMP.
You have a leak ?Like oil is pouring out from underneath or is it seeping? If the surface is flat and the gaskets were installed correctly how is this even possible? It sounds like there is oil leaking from underneath?An update. I will never opt to run one of these on any engine again. I got my engine mostly assembled and finally added oil and primed it, only to find a leak between the ACL front case and my oil filter bracket. OEM gaskets were used and all parts were installed following the procedure outlined in the FSM. Everything was perfectly dry and cleaned using brake clean and coffee filters.
To spend months and thousands of dollars building an engine only to have it 75% assembled on the stand and find out that a poorly made oil pump is going to set your build back even more time and money is a tremendous disappointment.
From having the crank and oil sprocket seals not pressed in fully or straight, to the oil pan bolt threads being slightly off enough to force me to modify my pan to fit, to now finding this leak, I do not trust this pump enough to run it on my engine.
Now I have to drain out all of the break in oil I literally just poured in, compromise my brand new OEM gaskets for the front case, oil filter bracket, turbo return, oil pickup, and my balance shaft plug. As well as pull and clean the RTV off of my oil pan/mating surface AGAIN.
My choice to purchase this oil pump has set my build time back and cost me an unnecessary amount of extra labor and money spent for me to have anything good to say about it at all.
From what I hear, some people have success with these pumps. I am not one of those people. I am really hoping that Extremepsi will take care of me as far as refunding me the cost of the pump and sending me all new gaskets and seals that are now rendered useless by this poor quality product. Otherwise, this is going to be a big hit on my build having to buy another set of gaskets along with a new OEM pump.
My reccomendation: DO NOT USE THIS PUMP.
I used a felpro set TCS 45941. https://www.fme-cat.com/overlays/pa...L&pNum=TCS 45941&partType=Crankshaft Seal SetIs the Gasket that the Orbit ACL Oil Pump bring any good? Are you guys runing that Gasket and the other one?
I never looked at the fsm but on all my oil pump installs I use factory gaskets with a light coat of mitsu bond. The only engine that had a minor oil seep issue was the one Without the mitsu bond.I used a felpro set TCS 45941. https://www.fme-cat.com/overlays/part-detail.aspx?brandId=FL&pNum=TCS 45941&partType=Crankshaft Seal Set
Also I copper sprayed the gaskets, but I do that to most.