considering that they use different starters i would have to say yes

Well i assume the hole might be different but thats nothing that cant be cut. I was just worried about the shims being different thickness

redyute1 said:

considering that they use different starters i would have to say yes

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I just did the swap, and the starter bolted right up and starts the car perfectly. Where did you get this info?

I was on the phone with Mitsu today so I just had them send me the part and be done with it. Trying to finish most of the project this weekend.

badas93tsi said:

I just did the swap, and the starter bolted right up and starts the car perfectly. Where did you get this info?

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Thanx for the correction

badas93tsi said:

I just did the swap, and the starter bolted right up and starts the car perfectly. Where did you get this info?

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that might be true on a 1g but us 2g's the A/T starter has a longer throw to the flywheel, you've absolutly got to get the M/T starter and shim to do the swap.

Which shim are you referring too?

TjPhillips36 said:

Which shim are you referring too?

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good point? are you talking about the round aliment pin or the actual tin plate that is in between the tranz and the block,

the aliment pins are the same

the tin plates are diff..... 100% diff actually. all it changes is how are were the starter sits, plus both starters are different.

the auto one is kinda short and fat about 4" wide by 6 " long, while the m/t starter is longer and about 3" around and 8" long ish....

Just tryin to add my thoughts, it might help

n8dsmdriven said:

good point? are you talking about the round aliment pin or the actual tin plate that is in between the tranz and the block,

the aliment pins are the same

the tin plates are diff..... 100% diff actually. all it changes is how are were the starter sits, plus both starters are different.

the auto one is kinda short and fat about 4" wide by 6 " long, while the m/t starter is longer and about 3" around and 8" long ish....

Just tryin to add my thoughts, it might help

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I'm guessing you're talking about a 2g. The starter plate is different between the autos and manuals, but the starters are definitely the same.

I would assume the OP is talking about a 2G according to his profile.

I don't know of any shim's so to say on a 2G manual, theirs the block to trans alignment dowel pins, then the starter plate. On the auto's however their is a "shim" so to say that goes into the crank that helps locate the flexplate for the torque converter.

badas93tsi said:

I'm guessing you're talking about a 2g. The starter plate is different between the autos and manuals, but the starters are definitely the same.

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um no, they aren't... i took a picture of the starters side by side when i did my A/T to M/T AWD swap, the shims too.

part number of the starters in CAPS M/T starter: MD172862 A/T starter: MD178511

any other questions about the swap ive got pics of everything.





here are the plates, the A/T is the greasy one and the brand new one is the M/T...

there the same thing

gofer said:

um no, they aren't... i took a picture of the starters side by side when i did my A/T to M/T AWD swap, the shims too.

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Again, I said he must have been talking about a 2g. Judging by your sig pic, you are too. The starters WILL interchange on a 1g. Makes no difference either way, I think the OP has a 2g.

^^^ yea im talking about a 2g, the OP too. ^^^

i like how above we were arguing about the starters when all the OP wanted to know is if he needed a different shim.

gofer said:

^^^ yea im talking about a 2g, the OP too. ^^^

i like how above we were arguing about the starters when all the OP wanted to know is if he needed a different shim.

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I know, I noticed that after I posted the third time. Good luck with the swap, its different. Takes some getting used to, I've stomped the brake with my "clutch" foot more than once.

gofer said:

um no, they aren't... i took a picture of the starters side by side when i did my A/T to M/T AWD swap, the shims too.

part number of the starters in CAPS M/T starter: MD172862 A/T starter: MD178511

any other questions about the swap ive got pics of everything.

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here are the plates, the A/T is the greasy one and the brand new one is the M/T...

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So in order to successfully do the 6bolt swap in 2g auto with kiggly kit you need to use a M/T starter??? This is what I am understanding because I am having this issue with the starter binding up... Sorry I know this is old!!!