1G Crazy Blockage...

kmetiuk · Sep 1, 2017

Sometimes i wonder

is going on in people's heads. I just found this plugging one of my lifters when I was bleeding it. A piece of silicone.... pretty big too I'm shocked that it made it all the way through the oiling system all the way through the whole lifter check valve everything and was right at the hole at the tip. I have found chunks of silicone completely through out this engine but this is blew me away that it made it that far.

I'm tearing apart every oil Galley and any little nook and cranny i can get to make sure it's clean... I'm just shocked at this piece.

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EGLTAWLN · Sep 1, 2017

Looks like the Ultra copper type. That stuff is amazing as an oil pan gasket, once it is dry you have to fight to pry off the oil pan.

At least it looks like they used the good stuff!!!

But where did they put it originally that it made its way there?

kmetiuk · Sep 1, 2017

EGLTAWLN said:
Looks like the Ultra copper type. That stuff is amazing as an oil pan gasket, once it is dry you have to fight to pry off the oil pan.

At least it looks like they used the good stuff!!!

But where did they put it originally that it made its way there?

Oh man it was EVERYWHERE. Way to much on ever single gasket surface....all over the threads on pretty much everything.

I even found a plug that they put in the OFH or the oil filter for shipping INSIDE the oil galleys. Forced about 50% of the way out of the oil filter.

Crazy what you find other peeps have done.

19gsx91 · Sep 2, 2017

Lucky it didn't cause any damage..

You know sir. Knowing you and your posts the way you do, From the title I was expecting a story about a trip out to a Mexican restaurant that didn't go so well.

Imagine my relief LOL

GST with PSI · Sep 2, 2017

This is just one of the reasons why I use oil pan gaskets, not sealant. I've gotten a lot of shit from a lot of people for using oil pan gaskets, but I've never had one leak. And, it doesn't take a pry bar, scraper, screw driver, hammer, and whatever the hell else to get the f***in oil pan off when I need to pull it.

I don't use RTV or any goopy sealants for the entire motor. Gaskets only, with a coat of copper spray where required. Save a few little dabs of RTV in the outside corners of the valve cover gasket where it meets the end cam caps on the head, I never, ever use the stuff. You simply don't need it.

In contrast, I've taken apart motors where people have used RTV for everything, even to seal the front case to the block...

kmetiuk · Sep 4, 2017

GST with PSI said:
This is just one of the reasons why I use oil pan gaskets, not sealant. I've gotten a lot of sh** from a lot of people for using oil pan gaskets, but I've never had one leak. And, it doesn't take a pry bar, scraper, screw driver, hammer, and whatever the hell else to get the f***in oil pan off when I need to pull it.

I don't use RTV or any goopy sealants for the entire motor. Gaskets only, with a coat of copper spray where required. Save a few little dabs of RTV in the outside corners of the valve cover gasket where it meets the end cam caps on the head, I never, ever use the stuff. You simply don't need it.

In contrast, I've taken apart motors where people have used RTV for everything, even to seal the front case to the block...

Ya that's where most of it came from. The front case, rear seal, and vavle cover were caked in RTV.

Its been brutal cleaning it all out. Like days of it and I'm still finding little bits here and there...well was. This piece in the lifter was the first piece in a few days anyways. Pretty sure I got it all out now.

bling5tatus · Sep 20, 2017

GST with PSI said:
This is just one of the reasons why I use oil pan gaskets, not sealant. I've gotten a lot of sh** from a lot of people for using oil pan gaskets, but I've never had one leak. And, it doesn't take a pry bar, scraper, screw driver, hammer, and whatever the hell else to get the f***in oil pan off when I need to pull it.

I don't use RTV or any goopy sealants for the entire motor. Gaskets only, with a coat of copper spray where required. Save a few little dabs of RTV in the outside corners of the valve cover gasket where it meets the end cam caps on the head, I never, ever use the stuff. You simply don't need it.

In contrast, I've taken apart motors where people have used RTV for everything, even to seal the front case to the block...

This. If everyone read this and followed it we'd have happier DSMs. The enlightenment moment came for me when a good friend asked me, "where on the stock engine does the OEM use any copper gasket spray or silicone?" The answer is basically nowhere. I only use silicone on the corners of a VC gasket and the oil pan. Although next time I have to do an oil pan I will buy a gasket for it.

Also, in before someone mentions how stock engines don't make xyz horsepower.

GST with PSI · Sep 20, 2017

Copper spray works well on most paper and metal flat gaskets. The gasket that goes between the thermostat housing and head is a good example. I also use copper spray on the metal gaskets that go between the exhaust manifold parts and such.

You don't use it on every gasket, though. And, you certainly don't use it on composite and other like head gaskets as I've heard some people say.

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