The Top DSM Community on the Web

For 1990-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse, Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser, and Galant VR-4 Owners. Log in to remove most ads.

Please Support Fuel Injector Clinic
Please Support ExtremePSI

Whats your take on The new Eclipse cross?

This site may earn a commission from merchant
affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Tony818

Proven Member
133
17
Jul 15, 2015
Denver, Colorado
For those of you that dont know Mitsubishi has decided to revive the Eclipse name on one of their vehicles wich will be revealed at the geneva motor show this year. . . No dont get excited. Unfortunately its coming back as a crossover :ohdamn::beatentodeath: whats your take on this?
 

Attachments

  • Screenshot_20170215-050423.jpg
    Screenshot_20170215-050423.jpg
    85.6 KB · Views: 120
  • Screenshot_20170215-050552.png
    Screenshot_20170215-050552.png
    159 KB · Views: 136
It's only using the name, just like Lexus mini and fiat they all make SUV versions or bigger versions with the same base name. So this means if they release this then the real eclipse most likely will be produced aswell

Fiat 500 has the XL and mini has the countryman and Clubman and they do a 4x4 version too,
 
I read a few weeks ago that since nissan bought 30% of mitsubishi the new chairman made the decission of making many of their concepts a reality to help with their sales, and im starting to see it actually happening. I hope what your saying is true and that the real Eclipse will be in the works soon.
 
Based on articles I've read based on Mitsu's US bound products, the Eclipse (original), Galant, and Evo are indefinitely axed from current and future production. There's been talks for a couple years regarding the revival of the Evo beyond Evo X would only be a cross-over style vehicle. Now that this car is a reality and is carrying the Eclipse name, I can believe they were serious when it involves the Evo name. This car itself does not look all that bad, but they shouldn't be using the Eclipse name due to its own history. Sadly car companies have been doing that in recent years in very poor taste (i.e. Dodge Dart and Charger). Mitsubishi is likely to be using the name only for sales purposes to attract people familiar with the Eclipse name and nothing more.

So this means if they release this then the real eclipse most likely will be produced aswell
I find this very hard to believe since Mitsubishi pulled their US production and reduced their available products in favor of EV's and cross-over platforms instead. I wish you were right, but I doubt it'll ever happen based on their current goals.
 
While it may or may not be true Nissan wants to bring the eclipse back as they know the market is there for it just like the GT-R was, however most nowadays are branching out into Europe like the mustang with its RHD versions, which ruin it by the way, but still they wanted sales and them lot decided this was the way forward.

The galant will most likely never be redone since they have the lancer wagon which is what it was built upto from the galant and lancer range,

But it's been discussed many times that they always wanted to bring the eclipse back and as it's said the Nissan guy brings concepts to life and they have the eclipse concept! So..... I have hopes! The world needs sports cars and sports compacts still and they know this
 
Bring the concept to production is one thing. Making it desirable at the same time is another. Most of us can remember the death of 2G production thinking that the 3G was going to be a good replacement, and Mitsu in turn did the complete opposite. By the time the 4G was ending its life cycle, I was almost glad to see the name laid to rest before the platform was ruined more. The Concept RA from a few years ago that previewed a potential 5th gen was a great idea of what they wanted to build, but it never got its chance. If they were to build it with the same engine configuration and similar design, I'd be all for it, but they've let us all done before. Yes, I agree we need these dead platforms back, and I hope Nissan pumps some much needed resources into it, but I don't see it happening. If Nissan helped bring in a new generation of the Evo, it would potentially steal sales from their GTR. I'm sure they would see some of the profit, but not nearly enough. I think I read an article based on that as well, may need to go search. I'm all for another Eclipse, as long as it's a proper Eclipse, not this crossover or V6 (fwd only) bullshit.

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/10/sighmitsubishi-says-evo-badge-wont-be.html
 
Mitsubishi did in the 80's and 90's what other manufactures are just now getting around to doing. (highly efficient high performance turbo 4 with actual ECU control) granted the tech is higher now, even the new Camaro has an amazing turbo 4 option.

also look at how wide the 4g63 has become, any world based motor on the planet is based on that dang thing.

i would absolutely pee myself for Mitsubishi to drop a new current tech turbo 4 sports car. it simply will not happen. they do not have the funding and they missed enough release cycles to head back to a 'niche market'

they need to make money and that is the crossover area. they are at least heading back to profitability so maybe 2020 they will have the footing to make another run at a sports car. only way it will happen before is if they share a platform with nissan or renault or chysler to get the name on something that already exists.

on the bright side mitsubishi makes components for nearly every manufacturer on the planet, an they occasionally get injection money from mitsubishi corp. mitsu heavy industry bailed them out one of the previous stumbles they had. so while they are down. they are not out. hold on to that dream for a real return of the 3000gt or a true eclipse successor, hopefully it will be available about the time i am looking at retirement.
 
Honestly it was not at all what I was expecting the next eclipse to be like, but if they actually start making their concepts like said above that would be cool to see what else they come up with. Maybe an entirely new 2 door with a new name?
 
The way i see it is that mitsubishi is setting the ground first. They fell hard as we all know. And right now a sports car isnt going to help with gaining sales. Lets face it, now in days everyone is looking for suv cuv family vehicles. The only ones that want sports cars are high school kids that cant even afford it to begin with NOW im not bashing anyone of us, hear me out. Many of us enthusiasts that would be down to buy one, have already started a family, and the other half are in school making minimum wage or in college paying loans. In other words mitsubishi would lose sales. Which is why they are sticking with family crossovers. But that is just for now till they get back on their feet, once they are in a stable position i am very certain that there will be another mitsubishi sports car. BUT! that wont be for another long wait ( years and years)
 
Thread has no tech value so it's been moved to the Hangout. Carry on. :)
Hey thanks. I could of sworn i posted it in hangouts. Guess i was wrong. Still gotta get used to this thing. :thumb:
 
You cant say that there is no market for a sports car, Subaru, Audi, GM, Ford, Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota, etc etc prove otherwise every day of the week.
 
You cant say that there is no market for a sports car, Subaru, Audi, GM, Ford, Hyundai, Nissan, Toyota, etc etc prove otherwise every day of the week.
woa woa, easy there tiger. We all know that there is a sports car market out out there. What i am referring too or trying to say is that from a business perspective right now having a sports car isnt the best move for mitsubishi. Hear me out before we get all defensive. You said it yourself. Subaru Hyundai Ford GM Audi Nissan Toyota etc etc they all have sports cars , with so much competition out there right now and knowing how car reviewers like to bash on cars the last thing mitsubishi needs is to get bad mouthed (if thats even a word)by a spoiled reviewer that wants leather seats, fancy infotainment system, plenty of cargo room and great economy. Alot of these reviewers will devalue the mitsubishi name and steer customers another direction and thats not something a struggling company needs right now. Take for example the nissan 370z which has now lost so much repect and reputation and of course . . . Sales. Nissan just about got rid of the legendary (not so much anymore ) icon until just recently they decided to bring it back and will be appearing at the tokyo auto show this october. That was due to the strong enthusiast community that kept demanding it. But then again, how much longer till the Z gets outdated again and starts getting bashed by reviewers that will compare it to many other cars, newer cars updated cars that have more practicality. Keeping up with a sports car and trying to impress everyone is extremely hard, so is making more horsepower and trying to keep it under emissions. Sure there are also alot more family vehicle competitors but there are also alot more families demanding them and with a 10 year 100 thousand mile warranty that only mitsubishi and hyundai have the options gets narrower towards mitsubishi. Keep in mind that the 10yr/100mi warranty never applied to the Evo when it was around therefore not making it a clear choice for someone in the market for an AWD four door sports car. Also many consumers look at paper numbers and not potential and when it comes to that they tend to lean more towards the sti or the rs for their HP figures.
I see your point of view and i hope you can see mines. Mitsubishi is on a strict buisness recovery plan right now and they are using every last resort they can to get back to where they where before they had fallen off which is why like mentioned above they are using iconic names to boost sales like dodge did with the dart and the charger. Once back to safe waters only then will they bring back a sports car and be prepared for competition.
 
Garbage. Mitsubishi is dead to me, and has been.

I love my DSMs, but my next new purchase will be Mazda MX-5 RF.
 
I'm sure this was the last thing Mitsubishi had in mind before being aquired by Nissan Renault and they must've given the green light. I'm very excited to see a EVO 11 soon
 
Well, I do understandthat Mitsubishi is in a tight spot, and yes, they have to do something for their brand to regain value in the market. It was said long ago, like in 2010/2011 that they were going to start cutting off most of their lineup, including sports cars like the Evo, Eclipse. We saw that with the Eclipse Final Edition and the Evo Final Edition. They are now focusing on gas economy on most of their cars, including this Cross with a 1.5L
I just think that they did chose a bad name badge for their new concept crossover. I mean, they have tons of other names that could have been used, like the Montero, Nativa, Pajero... But using the name of an iconic 2 door sports car is just disrespectful. Mostly for enthusiasts of the Eclipse line. They claimed they were "inspired" in a sports car. Where is the sports car language in that crossover? I cannot see a slight reference of the Eclipse in their design. And the rear part of the car is just ugly. Not even the tail lights resemble anything of an Eclipse.
Visit their Mitsubishi USA Facebook page and read the comments. Enthusiasts are mad about this crossover being named Eclipse.
Still, I see potential in this concept. Notice that it's named Eclipse Cross. Maybe, in a near or far future, they will make the Eclipse a sports car apart from the Eclipse Cross. Many enthusiasts speculate this too. Who knows what is on their plans, I just really wish Mitsubishi brings back a respectful Eclipse to their lineup.
You must be logged in to view this image or video.
 
I cant post my thoughts because it would violate the TOS for the site. I will attempt to write so that Mitsubishi can understand where enthusiasts stand.

This thing is an abomination of an eclipse. Sure its the new outlander that's fine and all, but this company has gone bananas if they think this is a good idea or a cool idea. The only cool idea is for these idiots to make another AWD Turbo Eclipse. Not a crossover. That would sell and revive some brand image. The brand killed the best thing it had going the EVO. They didn't even need to redesign the EVO it was fine sold as it is for almost ?ten years unchanged.

If they had made the 4th gen eclipse awd it would have been iconic. If it would have also been turbo it would have been legendary. What did they do with it FWD garbage. The heritage is destroyed. I have a FWD lancer and I loathe it every time I drive it because if its damp out wheel spin, if I drive spiritedly wheel spin, if I shift too quick.. you get the idea. LSD RWD Lancer make it happen.

Options to save the brand
1. Bring out the Electric Evo
2. Bring out a LSD RWD Lancer.
3. Bring out AWD Eclipse that can easily have a turbo kit bolted on after market (4b11) with pre tapped /plugged oil feed and return lines.
4. Kill the eclipse cross name and burn it with fire.
5. Bring out LSD RWD straight 6 Eclipse GT-S.
6. Make the eclipse cross into something else to compete with jeep, but not jeep as in geriatric wanaben jeeps I mean like going after offroad crowd, but retain highway drive-ability.
7. Combine the eclipse and the evo into some weird rally sport / street sport electric assisted nighmareish thing with wheels sticking out the sides a little too far but has great mpg's and adjustable dampers and ride height we are definitely talking two modes one for 400hp ripping and a conservative 300 tune to drive around town.
 
Well, I do understandthat Mitsubishi is in a tight spot, and yes, they have to do something for their brand to regain value in the market. It was said long ago, like in 2010/2011 that they were going to start cutting off most of their lineup, including sports cars like the Evo, Eclipse. We saw that with the Eclipse Final Edition and the Evo Final Edition. They are now focusing on gas economy on most of their cars, including this Cross with a 1.5L
I just think that they did chose a bad name badge for their new concept crossover. I mean, they have tons of other names that could have been used, like the Montero, Nativa, Pajero... But using the name of an iconic 2 door sports car is just disrespectful. Mostly for enthusiasts of the Eclipse line. They claimed they were "inspired" in a sports car. Where is the sports car language in that crossover? I cannot see a slight reference of the Eclipse in their design. And the rear part of the car is just ugly. Not even the tail lights resemble anything of an Eclipse.
Visit their Mitsubishi USA Facebook page and read the comments. Enthusiasts are mad about this crossover being named Eclipse.
Still, I see potential in this concept. Notice that it's named Eclipse Cross. Maybe, in a near or far future, they will make the Eclipse a sports car apart from the Eclipse Cross. Many enthusiasts speculate this too. Who knows what is on their plans, I just really wish Mitsubishi brings back a respectful Eclipse to their lineup.
You must be logged in to view this image or video.
I agree with you all 100% i feel fisrespected and used even tho my name isnt Eclipse. But thats just abuse to the name. I mean i inderstanf their game plan. I just wish they understood our DSM culture.
 
I cant post my thoughts because it would violate the TOS for the site. I will attempt to write so that Mitsubishi can understand where enthusiasts stand.

This thing is an abomination of an eclipse. Sure its the new outlander that's fine and all, but this company has gone bananas if they think this is a good idea or a cool idea. The only cool idea is for these idiots to make another AWD Turbo Eclipse. Not a crossover. That would sell and revive some brand image. The brand killed the best thing it had going the EVO. They didn't even need to redesign the EVO it was fine sold as it is for almost ?ten years unchanged.

If they had made the 4th gen eclipse awd it would have been iconic. If it would have also been turbo it would have been legendary. What did they do with it FWD garbage. The heritage is destroyed. I have a FWD lancer and I loathe it every time I drive it because if its damp out wheel spin, if I drive spiritedly wheel spin, if I shift too quick.. you get the idea. LSD RWD Lancer make it happen.

Options to save the brand
1. Bring out the Electric Evo
2. Bring out a LSD RWD Lancer.
3. Bring out AWD Eclipse that can easily have a turbo kit bolted on after market (4b11) with pre tapped /plugged oil feed and return lines.
4. Kill the eclipse cross name and burn it with fire.
5. Bring out LSD RWD straight 6 Eclipse GT-S.
6. Make the eclipse cross into something else to compete with jeep, but not jeep as in geriatric wanaben jeeps I mean like going after offroad crowd, but retain highway drive-ability.
7. Combine the eclipse and the evo into some weird rally sport / street sport electric assisted nighmareish thing with wheels sticking out the sides a little too far but has great mpg's and adjustable dampers and ride height we are definitely talking two modes one for 400hp ripping and a conservative 300 tune to drive around town.
:applause::cool:LOL Hahahahaha savage!!! But true, I wish to see some Eclipse that will directly with some sports cars like the z for example.
 
I cant post my thoughts because it would violate the TOS for the site. I will attempt to write so that Mitsubishi can understand where enthusiasts stand.

This thing is an abomination of an eclipse. Sure its the new outlander that's fine and all, but this company has gone bananas if they think this is a good idea or a cool idea. The only cool idea is for these idiots to make another AWD Turbo Eclipse. Not a crossover. That would sell and revive some brand image. The brand killed the best thing it had going the EVO. They didn't even need to redesign the EVO it was fine sold as it is for almost ?ten years unchanged.

If they had made the 4th gen eclipse awd it would have been iconic. If it would have also been turbo it would have been legendary. What did they do with it FWD garbage. The heritage is destroyed. I have a FWD lancer and I loathe it every time I drive it because if its damp out wheel spin, if I drive spiritedly wheel spin, if I shift too quick.. you get the idea. LSD RWD Lancer make it happen.

Options to save the brand
1. Bring out the Electric Evo
2. Bring out a LSD RWD Lancer.
3. Bring out AWD Eclipse that can easily have a turbo kit bolted on after market (4b11) with pre tapped /plugged oil feed and return lines.
4. Kill the eclipse cross name and burn it with fire.
5. Bring out LSD RWD straight 6 Eclipse GT-S.
6. Make the eclipse cross into something else to compete with jeep, but not jeep as in geriatric wanaben jeeps I mean like going after offroad crowd, but retain highway drive-ability.
7. Combine the eclipse and the evo into some weird rally sport / street sport electric assisted nighmareish thing with wheels sticking out the sides a little too far but has great mpg's and adjustable dampers and ride height we are definitely talking two modes one for 400hp ripping and a conservative 300 tune to drive around town.
It isnt practical or cost effective to do everything you said they should do. Rwd possible absolutely, offer the eclipse in awd and rwd trim like the true skylines were. But inline 6 would never be a possibilty, along with mitsu have little experience in the inline 6 game like toyota or bmw or nissan. The eclipse cross over should be the new rvr, or start a new name plate entirely. Mitsubishi will die entirely if they dont tap into more then just the suv and small hatchback market
 
It wouldn't even be that hard for Mitsubishi to bring the Eclipse back as an AWD sports car.

1. Start with the 4G platform, fix the FUGLY rear end and the rest of the seriously uninspiring body lines to look like an updated 2G. Steal from your former selves, so to speak. You spend a lot less updating a platform you've already produced.
2. Use a motor you already have (4B11T) as the power plant. You already have the tooling to make these, so you lose no money there either.
3. Don't stop at the engine. Slap the entire EVO X driveline underneath, and even offer the DSG option. Not like you don't have tons lying around already.
4. Update the tech in the car to have everything a comfortable car has. Dual zone automatic climate control, steering wheel controls for cruise, radio, bluetooth phone, etc., satellite navigation, push button start. Also allow access to ECU tuning from the factory, with no need for something like DSMlink.
5. Sell the car FOR LESS THAN $40,000!!!!!! Seriously, the price tag on the EVO is what killed it. You're Mitsubishi. You don't have a brand name like Subaru, so don't try to compete with their price points. Give more for the dollar, and the customers will come. The car I outlined could EASILY sell faster than you can make them if the price point was similar to that of a base-model WRX ($25,000). Mitsubishi can't afford to try to maximize profits on every vehicle, so building the customer base back up would be the best idea.

And there it is! An AWD, 4 cyl turbo, tech-current MONSTER that will have good HP numbers on paper, and still have LOADS of potential. If I saw something like this on the up-and-coming list, I'd probably reserve 2 (One to mod and play with, the other to keep bone stock).
 
Support Vendors who Support the DSM Community
Boosted Fabrication ECM Tuning ExtremePSI Fuel Injector Clinic Innovation Products Jacks Transmissions JNZ Tuning Kiggly Racing Morrison Fabrications MyMitsubishiStore.com RixRacing RockAuto RTM Racing STM Tuned

Latest posts

Build Thread Updates

Vendor Updates

Latest Classifieds

Back
Top