This is also why intercooling increases power. More mass air at the same psi (almost). There is pressure drop to consider but you get the point. Cooler charge contains more mass

pauleyman said:

This is also why intercooling increases power. More mass air at the same psi (almost). There is pressure drop to consider but you get the point. Cooler charge contains more mass

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Fair enough, but i doubt the difference between a 14b and 16g is even noticeable on the butt dyno

For me it was, and as mentioned I noted an increase of fuel consumption at the same boost levels. My 14b had the wastegate hole cracked right across the middle and wouldn't allow the flapper to close all the way, perhaps waste gate leaks causes choked exhaust flow by the turbine wheel shaft speed being slower??. I'm building boost way sooner in the RPMs (12@2600), and feels like it keeps pulling vs feeling rather flat at 4k. Again I also did a stock 2g Exhaust manifold at the same time. My s16g had a 6cm housing which I thought was odd.
Butt yes, butt dyno's lie and are probably susceptible to falling for placebos...

My butt dyno isn't accurate either. When I first put my Evo III on it felt slower than the T25. My speed climbs faster at 11psi on the 16G than on the T25 at 15psi, but doesn't feel as punchy and spools up much later. Having power past 5k is nice though.

Y'all mind if I jump in?
I'm getting the extreme psi 16g install kit for my setup.
Comes with j pipe oil feed line and drain
Coolant lines I believe. And the gaskets and what not
For a daily. Thoughts?

John_M93 said:

Y'all mind if I jump in?
I'm getting the extreme psi 16g install kit for my setup.
Comes with j pipe oil feed line and drain
Coolant lines I believe. And the gaskets and what not
For a daily. Thoughts?

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.....cool?

mean like should this be all i need to get that 16g going?

John_M93 said:

mean like should this be all i need to get that 16g going?

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For now but if you decide on making power you'll need to add fuel components.

John_M93 said:

mean like should this be all i need to get that 16g going?

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I imagine so if you bought the extremepsi kit.

You will have to do the old "swap the waterlines and bend one of them" trick, but it should work.

I have a freshly rebuilt e316g if you are interested.

The kit should work for u. Quality kit at a great price. Are u going to be running a 14b or an actual 16g turbo?

Hey I'm in the same boat I had a big t28 on the eclipse I bought a few months ago it was smoking some times mostly when I go on it or under declaration I thought it was the turbo so I took it off and there was shaft play in and out and side to side and there was cracks all in the housing so I bought a big 16g and my old turbo coolant lines are kinda shot so my question is what are the best coolant lines for the 16g swap in a 2g should I order 2g 1g or try to find Evo 1-3 ? Thanks

You can use your 2g lines just have to swap the back line to the front and front line to the back. You may have to bend the line a little. Stick a screw driver in them and bend slowly to prevent kinking it.

Also, this answer is just about everywhere. Search button is your friend.

doubleclutch said:

You can use your 2g lines just have to swap the back line to the front and front line to the back. You may have to bend the line a little. Stick a screw driver in them and bend slowly to prevent kinking it.

Also, this answer is just about everywhere. Search button is your friend.

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I know I can use the old one but my old ones are in bad shape so I was searching to find out if there is a better way see how I am going to buy new ones just wanted to know what ones where best before I bought the stock ones thanks and I still am looking to see if there is a better way cuz I have the fp 4inch intake pipe and it hits the line coming out of the block