I think that's high unless this thing is perfect.

As do I, considering problems you'll run into with these cars. XD. Not that they are unreliable, but they are if they aren't taken care of. Any way. I have a 90 turbo laser and I love her.

^^agree with bastard. You can find a fwd or awd turbo for 3-3500 in decent shape.
I'd say 2500 max, if it's in perfect shape. They're just not that desirable, and if you're looking to turbo swap it, you'd be better off finding a rolling shell for way cheaper and building it your way.

wolf alchemy said:

As do I, considering problems you'll run into with these cars. XD. Not that they are unreliable, but they are if they aren't taken care of. Any way. I have a 90 turbo laser and I love her.

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Are there any major issues you have experienced? How many miles? How long have you owned it?

If I may add, this vehicle is bone stock, guy is probably around 60ish. This is one of the cleanest Talon/Eclipse/Lasers I have EVER seen. Bone stock makes me happy as well... CLEAN SLATE!!

tametalon92 said:

^^agree with bastard. You can find a fwd or awd turbo for 3-3500 in decent shape.
I'd say 2500 max, if it's in perfect shape. They're just not that desirable, and if you're looking to turbo swap it, you'd be better off finding a rolling shell for way cheaper and building it your way.

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Why would you turbo swap it. All he would need is the plumbing, intercooler, oilpan, and pipes....and banjo bolts(if that's wt they are called) and he should be good...right? I forgot the turbo...

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Why would you turbo swap it. All he would need is the plumbing, intercooler, oilpan, and pipes....and banjo bolts(if that's wt they are called) and he should be good...right? I forgot the turbo...

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You can go through all that if you want, but keep in mind the higher compression it will have. Also, the only pieces he'd be keeping would be the block, head and possibly intake. Everything else would be changed. So in the long run, finding a roller chassis for a few hundred bux, and piecing together a motor would be cheaper and more effective for what he wants goal-wise than to pay more for an n/a car, and change all the other stuff out anyway.

Honestly, I think it's too much still. I wouldn't pay a dime over 2500, and all the nitpicky portions would have to be good (tires, maintenance, etc)

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Why would you turbo swap it. All he would need is the plumbing, intercooler, oilpan, and pipes....and banjo bolts(if that's wt they are called) and he should be good...right? I forgot the turbo...

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No. You would not be good. Same issue as adding a turbo to a honda. It's just easier to physically do on a dsm with the availability of stock parts. Non turbo pistons aren't just higher compression. Piston to wall clearances are different and ring lands on nt pistons aren't built for boost. It's been done but I think it's an example of what not to do.

Ask give him 2800 and maybe you should post some pics of it up

I'd just keep it stock ,my 91 laser rs turbo that got transformed into non turbo due to idiots doing the timing belt wrong and it sat for 7 years in a garage but it is a very reliable car just don't go ham on an old motor

What's been done? I paid 800$ for my laser with rebuilt turbo automatic transmission and with a fresh head and block

Tbh tho my trans just broke it's kickdown band and I'm in the process of rebuilding it again, the previous owner over adjusted the kickdown band and caused it to brake from over time. but it still shifted like a king prior to loseing 1st and 4th (kickdown band is used for those)

Timeing belt changed with all new components?
Example: new balance shaft belt and timeing belt , idler pully,hydraulic tensioner, cam tensioner pully , cam and crank seals ,water pump, balance shaft tensioner, some things to ask about if they did the timing recently and this is a must on these cars or you risk destroying your valves and or pistons

Learn what maitenance was done. I keep track of everything with dates an miles

Btw here's a pic of my laser there very unique and I only know of another one in my city and it's getting parted out it has a 2.3 stroker in it and is a 92 with lots of aftermarket stuff (not always a good thing) also it's awd unlike 90-91 being fwd only and there askeing 2500$ I belive

Got pics? Non turbos are very reliable comeing from personal experience just keep up with maitenance! my car only left me stranded once and that's because I had bad battery terminals

I have a non turbo 1g, eagle talon and love that it is non turbo. Why? Because it makes the best dd ever. It's still a dsm, easy to work on, and I have tons of parts to find for it and still has all the creature comforts. For my fun car I have my 2g gsx.
But please post pictures of this gem!

pauleyman said:

No. You would not be good. Same issue as adding a turbo to a honda. It's just easier to physically do on a dsm with the availability of stock parts. Non turbo pistons aren't just higher compression. Piston to wall clearances are different and ring lands on nt pistons aren't built for boost. It's been done but I think it's an example of what not to do.

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Oh. And I know that about the Honda, but I thought to keep costs down they would have made the 4g63 the same way. Yes there's a n/a 4g63, but it's internals would be identical to the turbo. That way....cheaper build process?

No the internals are not the same. Certain pieces are but that doesn't make it an apples to apples discussion.

For 3k I wouldn't be buying a non turbo DSM even for a daily even with 119k even if its immaculate

I bought one for 700 needing a transmission. 100 at a local u pull. It was in great shape as you describe. completely stock.

Things you may look at:

Hoses; check intake hose. I made one for my car out of aluminum tube. I don't think oem is available any longer. Also smell for fuel, and check for cracking in fuel lines.

Check for rusted brake lines. Typically every DSM i've picked up needed new brake lines from front to rear.

I'm sure you could find a complete check list somewhere for buying a used vehicle.

These cars are very old and parts are brittle, worn, and hard to come by.

The cars are great don't get me wrong, but you should certainly talk him down.

Some mint dsms may be worth the dollars but most are far from mint.

Remember mint is probably non existent.

Hope this helps and be sure to post pictures next time!

Like to see picts of this Laser.

119K miles would make me a bit nervous if the belts weren't replaced prior.

Also, wonder how the valve seals are.

One simple test on motor condition is to take a finger, put it in the exhaust pipe, give the pipe a wipe and see how the soot is. If the soot is just dry soot, motor is okey, but if soot is slimy up to gooey, motor's an oil burner - from bad valve seals to worn rings.

Then, he's not getting his asking price.

Good luck - DSM

I live how people try to bash down anybody who try to sell there dsm at a higher then normal price, but these same people will sell there cars for super high when they don't want it no more

Its only worth what someone's willing to pay. I can find AWD Turbos for the price hes asking for a NT 2.0. It may need brake lines, but what car with over 100,000 miles wouldn't need some things? I suggest you budget accordingly.