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Well i might be considering a T3 manifold soon and i saw the ERL. The only problem is that I don't know where i can buy one. I heard they also go for like $500. Also if anybody has any feedback on these manifolds, feel free to chime in. I'm going to be using it for a Precision 6031E Turbo. Compressor .60A\R and Turbine .63A\R 5-bolt
 
what's wrong with the pte6031 i thought it was an alright turbo, please inform me Jusmx141. I bought that turbo before, becuase i listen to my friend. I really didn't know much about turbos but now i'm learning little by little.
 
The PTE6031 is one of the most unreliable turbo out there and it's laggy. You're better with a Holset HX35/HX40 or Borg Warner S258 bolt-on housing for about the same price.
 
well i already have the turbo so i can't do much about it now, i was trying to sell it around my way but no one has the money for it. It's still brand new, haven't used it. Don' t u think the higher compression pistons i have would help the lag?
 
It's horribly unreliable because it's poorly balanced in terms of airflow....the compressor is too big for the turbine. FP uses the 60-1 compressor on their DSM Red, but they mate it to a Mitsu TD06H turbine (bigger than the Garrett T31) AND they clip the TD06H turbine 15* to match the 60-1's flow.

A close buddy of mine ran a 6031E on the ragged edge last summer, and it lasted between 800-1200 miles on four occasions. The turbo was balanced perfectly; we tried sourcing the oil supply from the filter housing, the head, restricted, unrestricted, and nothing made a difference. This was done on a good tune running 30+psi, but still....Precision rates that turbo at 590hp which is about where he was (at the crank) so there shouldn't have been an issue.

In regard to the pistons, the same friend of mine that ran the 6031E in a .82a/r T3 turbine housing also used a fully-built 6-bolt with 9.0:1 Wiseco's. Full boost was around 4200-4400, but the turbo absolutely pulled insane when it was on boost....too bad the turbo broke constantly.

You're doing one good thing by going with the T3 housing- the PTE "M" DSM bolt-on housing is the worst-flowing turbine housing on the market for Garrett-style turbos. One of the only ways that turbo would perform near the compressor's potential is in a T3 turbine housing.

I don't know what kind of power you're looking to make, but you're going to struggle to get 400-450whp out of that turbo on pump gas. Just something to think about.



Be sure you have a worthy oil drain with no kinks, and be sure the oil drain never dips below the fitting on the pan. You'd be surprised how many people ignore this relatively simple fact. Also, do NOT supply the turbo's oil from the filter housing unrestricted if your engine does not have balance shafts or you'll kill the turbo in a few hundred miles. I recommend the head as the best oil source for all turbos.
 
thanks for the info. I guess that's what i get for listening to my friend (honda guy). if i get anything around or upwards of 350 i guess i'd be alright. I didn't have much expectations for that turbo, but i figured it be good for the street. This is more for my DD fwd laser. For my project car i was thinking of trying the s372R but i know it's gonna be a while because it's gonna be a costly process and i still have alot to learn.
 
thanks for the info. I guess that's what i get for listening to my friend (honda guy). if i get anything around or upwards of 350 i guess i'd be alright.
Honda guys love turbos with giant compressor wheels and tiny turbines because they only run 8psi on 1.5-1.8 liter engines. They think the bigger compressor will generate more airflow, and while that's somewhat true they don't understand they're far below the compressor's efficiency range and would be better off with something smaller.

In your case if you're only looking for 350whp, the T3-flanged 6031E may be overkill. It's not going to be friendly on the street, either....but with a FWD you may welcome a little lag as a way to get traction.

If I were you I'd unload that 6031E for a decent price while it's new and still has a little equity. Find yourself a good used 7-blade Holset HX35 (they're practically bulletproof) and pick up a new stainless Bullseye turbine housing to fit your DSM manifold. The whole setup should run you around $500, and the HX35 is much better balanced, spools quicker, makes more total airflow, and is more durable than the 6031E will ever be. This setup would also bolt directly to a DSM manifold, putting $500 into your pocket for other mods as you won't need the ERL Mani.


Good thread where some of the responding parties compare the 6031E to a HX40:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/turbo-system-tech/287326-pte-6031re-60-1-holset-hx40.html
 
PM andy4G63 ( andy4g63 - DSMtuners.com) if you want some info on the ERL's performance.

hey JusMX141 I noticed Andy hasn't been on the forums and on teamxxxracing.com Im seeing,
*** ERL HAS DISCONTINUED THIS PRODUCT. NO LONGER FOR SALE ***

Any insight as to what happened and if its still possible to get one of these works of art?
 
Nope- wait for a used one to show up somewhere.

We used one of these manifolds on Dave's car to go 9.12 and 158mph with an off-the-shelf 60mm HX40, so they're definitely a worthy piece.

Guess my new one just went up in value. :D
 
We definitely found the restriction of either the manifold or the .70 BEP housing once the 66mm HX40 I built him finally went on the car. After one season with minimal racing the turbo had a small amount of thrust wear which I corrected, and despite gaining over 5mph in the 1/8th the 66mm turbo was only 2mph faster at the end of the track from the backpressure.

Over winter this was remedied with a .82 a/r turbine housing and custom-built top-mount manifold which made the car noticeably laggier, but much faster on top end. I'm anticipating big things once we get a few bugs worked out of the driveline...particularly the way the 3000GT rear diff is mounted.

I was still very impressed with what the ERL manifold did paired to a standard HX40 using bolt-on parts that anyone reading this could buy and install. To think an affordable, durable production cast manifold and recycled Cummins turbo can power a DSM to almost 8 seconds and 160mph is downright crazy.

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