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iguanahotsauce

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Dec 13, 2010
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Hi everyone,

I'm finally getting around to replacing the head gasket in my 92 TSi and I have a couple parts that I'm not sure where they go. I'm currently at work so I don't have any pictures to post right now but I can post them when I get home.

There are three small round plastic pieces about an inch and a half in diameter and 1/2" or 3/4" inch wide. They are black with a small hole through the middle and they have a smaller circle piece that is just a bit bigger than the hole that comes out about 1/8" around the hole on each side.

I tried to describe them as best as I could, If anyone knows what they are and where they go that would be super helpful.
 
Ah yes I remember now! Thanks for your help guys. There's also quite a few different gaskets in the kit that I bought that I'm not sure where they go so I will post those when I get home. I was watching videos of people rebuild 4g63 engines and I found where most of them go but a couple of them I'm not sure about. I only have a few days left to get her back together again and running strong so I am trying to get this done as fast as I can while making sure to do things correctly. The I've already went through the head and replaced everything I needed to, Now I'm re assembling everything but it's been quite a while since I've worked on my TSi and I don't remember how a lot of stuff goes together anymore. Luckily I purchased the Haynes manual and Chilton's manual and they definitely help a lot with the assembly process.

Thanks again for your hep identifying those parts!
 
You did a good job of describing them. I knew what you were talking about by that alone. Check that one off the list.
 
Alright so here's the gasket set I bought. I know I'm not going to use some of these because some of them were for a pretty in depth disassemble of the engine, I sadly don't have the time to do a complete overhaul so I just did the head gasket and fixed the head. There's also another small toothed belt that I don't remember where it goes. At first I thought it was the balancer belt but that is still on the car. Where else are there small toothed belts?

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My first thought was the front balance shaft belt because that's exactly what that looks like. I don't think these engines have any other small toothed belts on them.

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Also, that gasket at the top left. The front case gasket or timing gasket or whatever you want to call it. I hate that gasket with a burning passion. My old one wouldn't come off, even after soaking it in gasket remover overnight. The new one doesn't sit right. It's an awful gasket, and my engine leaks oil steadily from there, and I don't want to take the time to remove all of the timing components to fix it. If you do replace it (READ: remove the front balance shaft) MAKE SURE you do it right the first time.
 
If you're doing the timing belt, might as well replace the balance shaft belt as well. If the balance shaft belt breaks, you're going to have all sorts of problems. Hence why people do the balance shaft elimination kits.
 
Power steering belt for a 1G.

Misc. gaskets in the second photo left over from a full engine set. Some of these are duplicates which differ by engine type (6/7 bolt, 1G/2G) which many manufacturers simply include in one set so they don't have to offer three or four different sets because two gaskets are different per kit.
 
Yeah after an extensive google search I realized that it's the power steering belt. I would replace the balance shaft belt if I had the time and the money but I don't. I need to have my TSi back together and running this weekend and I haven't had a whole lot of time to devote to it. The timing belt snapped about 10k miles ago and a whole bunch of engine work was done, I'm pretty sure the balance shaft belt was done too because it doesn't look very worn. The engine work happened before I received the car, a family friend gave it to me because it wasn't running and he didn't want to deal with it. It turned out to be the fuel pump.

I finally got the timing belt on last night after about two hours and five attempts. I put a small hex wrench in the auto tensioner when I took it off and after letting it sit for this long it actually bent the hex wrench in the auto tensioner so when I put it back in and put in the threaded rod to push it all the way down I couldn't get the hex wrench out. I ended up having to cut out the hex wrench and put in a new one. Then I was able to install it and pull out the hex wrench after I installed the threaded rod.

Are there any important gaskets in there that need to be done while I'm re installing the timing belt, I know that one on the top left does but are there any others?

Where do those various size round plastic rings go?

Thanks for all the help everyone!
 
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I tried my best to ID these. Of course test fit to be sure, if you are even needing them.
 
Awesome thanks! That really helps to know where they go. Do you know where those other plastic rings go? I've never seen them before
 
You have me stumped on the others. I havent had to do a complete overhaul yet but recognized most of the gaskets from separate things I have had to do to mine. Really sorry.
 
Awesome thanks! That really helps to know where they go. Do you know where those other plastic rings go? I've never seen them before
What plastic rings are you talking about? Are you talking about the seals? The biggest one is the rear main seal, the next largest is the front crank seal, the next 2 are the cam seals, than the oil pump and balance shaft seals. It looks like there is one extra in there. I am not surprised. I have got things included with gasket kits over the years that go nowhere inside the engine anywhere. I always get this little package of 4 what look like valve seals, but they are way smaller. Never found a use for them.
 
Its on the back of the engine. Will have to have the trans out or engine out to get to it. Pretty sure the upsidedown big U shaped gasket goes there too, but I haven't had mine apart, still pretty sure.
 
If you have a 6 bolt than you will have to pull the pan to do the rear main. The reason is because it goes into the seal housing from the back and the seal housing has to be removed. To remove the seal housing you have to remove the oil pan. On a 7 bolt you can just use a screw driver and pull the old one out and drive the new one in.
 
I ran into a bit of an issue today. I was able to get the timing belt and auto tensioner on yesterday and then today after I got everything else on and put the motor mount on I noticed that the timing belt is very loose, I can slide it side to side on the cam gears. Why would my timing belt be so loose? Also the threaded rod used to compress the auto tensioner broke when I was removing it so I can't take the timing belt off. The remaining piece of the threaded rod isn't pushing on the auto tensioner so that's not causing it. I only have a couple more days left to get this car running so any help or advice is greatly appreciated
 
Alright so I'm almost finished putting my talon back together. There's a few things that I don't remember where they go.

Here's the album of pictures;
http://imgur.com/a/R2n3S

I have two that I forgot to take pictures of:

What two hoses connect to the EGR? Also what size are the EGR bolts? I have seemed to misplace them
What's the order for the small hoses that connect to the throttle body

Image 1:
Where does that part go?

Image 2:
Do the three lines off the T on the boost actuator connect to the air can, wastegate, and J-Pipe on the turbo?

Image 3:
What hose connects there? That's the one to the right of where the intake manifold connects to the PCV valve

Image 4:
What hose goes on the upper connection on the air can?

Image 5:
What small hose goes on the BOV and where does it connect to?

Image 6:
What goes on that bolt?

Image 7:
Same question as Image 2

Image 8:
Same question as Image 2

Image 9:
Where does the small connection on the right of the intake manifold go? Is that to the line that would have the boost gauge spliced into it?
 
1 - Driver side motor mount

2 - no, from the J-Pipe it goes to the "T" , from the "T" one side goes to the wastegate and the other goes to the boost solenoid, from the boost solenoid it goes to the aircan (part of the generated boost is bled to the aircan through the boost solenoid)

3 - the bigger nipple off the IM plenum goes to the BOV

4 - evaporative canister and valve cover (crankcase ventilation) plug into those two nipples, check which one is missing of the two.

5 - see 3

6 - see 1

7 - see 2

8 - see 2

9 - the line goes to the FPR solenoid. I think it's rather common to "T" a boost solenoid off that line.
 
Awesome thanks so much!

As for the hoses that go to the top of the throttle body do you know what order those go in? And where do the two small hoses on the EGR connect?
 
If I only knew...J/K. I don't remember right now, I do remember that the yellow and green are the ones that go to the EGR valve but not their position. You should be able to guess it from any vacuum schematic though, the ones from the factory actually show the physical location of the hoses. Just be aware of the differences between early 1Gs and later 1Gs as well as Federal and California (the EGR ones are always yellow and green).
 
Ah that makes sense why I couldn't seem to find the vacuum lines for the egr, they're still in the car. I need to find the bolt size for the egr too, I seemed to misplace them somewhere when I took off the head
 
Ah that makes sense why I couldn't seem to find the vacuum lines for the egr, they're still in the car. I need to find the bolt size for the egr too, I seemed to misplace them somewhere when I took off the head

I don't know length off the top of my head, but they are 8mm and 1.25 pitch.
 
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