Thanks much appreciated!

Maybe he said CRANKshaft bearings?

You are correct, camshaft rides on a journal

NHerron said:

Maybe he said CRANKshaft bearings?

You are correct, camshaft rides on a journal

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he point at the journals and said these need bearings, just didnt know what he was talking about. he also was trying to charge me $1300 for a head swap...needless to say im not going back to that shop

Yes. Please dont.

wow that dude suck at the shop. As far as i know its old school push rod engines that have cam bearings.

boosted99_420 said:

wow that dude suck at the shop. As far as i know its old school push rod engines that have cam bearings.

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Some cars still use them..my buddy spun 2 of 4 cam bearings on his 96 civic. Freakin' thing ran for 3 months like that..and the kid beat the piss out of it during that 3 months too. Only a honda...

NHerron said:

Yes. Please dont.

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Agreed. Doesn't sound like a mechanic I would trust to work on a DSM.

And FYI- Since the cams do not use bearings, it is important that the cam journals are free of damage and that the cam caps are put on in the correct order/direction. So if he did any work on the engine, make sure to double check that.

The only other thing related to the cam shaft rotating assembly is the cam seals. They may need to be replaced whenever the cam shafts are removed.

DSM camshaft bearings are on the shelf next to the muffler bearings and blinker fluid I was all set to purchase a used head once, and saw that one of the cam caps was jacked up... be sure to always put them in the correct position where they were removed from and facing the correct direction. The jacked up head I looked at was messed up from putting one of the caps on backwards and tightening it down. He didn't even run it that way, but it distorted the cap.

Keith

Stay away from that shop.

im rebuilding my buddys 95 gdst six bolt swap with 20 g turbo and there is no babbit left on the cam journals and im wondering whether or not I have to replace the cylinder head or take it to a machine shop he has 272 cams and titanium valve springs and don't want to destroy his pretty new 500 cams with the exposed aluminum on the cam journals but im kinda stuck knowing that the cams ride on a thin film of oil and the wear is not catastrophic just the shiny babbit alloy is removed on a lot of these journals

The cams ride on the aluminum journal.

dsmpat95 said:

The cams ride on the aluminum journal.

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+1.

No babbit on the cam journals.

No cam bearings for a 4g63 cam

The cams run right on the head casting.

The Mitsu 4g63 is not a Ford 2.3 that has cam bearings.

Albrecht09 said:

Some cars still use them..my buddy spun 2 of 4 cam bearings on his 96 civic. Freakin' thing ran for 3 months like that..and the kid beat the piss out of it during that 3 months too. Only a honda...

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96 Honda engines do not have cam bearings.