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http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...973-05-06-outlander-bigger-brake-upgrade.html

I was reading this tech article and want to do this to my 1g my brakes suck slowing down from 120 trap speeds and think im going to go with the outlander brake upgrade.

My only question is for the 1gs what do you do to make the 2 piston 2g caliper work with the 1g brake lines as they are different?

https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/product.php?productid=18919&cat=1435&page=1

Would it fix the problem if I got the 2g brake lines ^? That really is my only question everything else should be bolt on if I read it correctly

If someone could show me how to make that work that would be awesome. :thumb:
 
Why don't you just run the big brakes from the 1 gen? 92-94 2 piston front calipers. You can run your stock brake lines or just simply buy some B.F.G stainless steel brake lines to replace the OEM rubber lines to the calipers. Also upgrade your stock master cylinder with a 3rd gen eclipse one. I am running the exact set-up I just told you on my car and it is much better than the stock 1 piston calipers ever were.
 
There are a couple ways you can do this. Below is what I did with mine:

dual piston calipers from an N/A Stealth from a junkyard. -WILL use 1G brake lines

05/06 Outlander caliper brackets from a salvage yard (had to buy the calipers and brackets together)-USE WITH STEALTH CALIPERS TO RETAIN 1G LINES

Get some rotors and pads for an outlander.

Winning.

OR...

The other option, as referenced above is to just to the outlander calipers and brackets at which point your would need the 2G banjo style lines.

In addition to these, I put on a 3G brake booster, (like 1" diameter bigger), and 3G master cylinder.

What a huge difference this made in the braking system over stock single piston setup.

Not sure what made the bigger dif between the master cylinder or the brake booster since I swapped them at the same time, but regardless, in unison they made a big difference even after the outlander setup was done.
 
If your only stopping once at then end of a drag run I would just get some better pads. An upgrade probably isint needed since your brakes get time to cool off between runs.
 
If your only stopping once at then end of a drag run I would just get some better pads. An upgrade probably isint needed since your brakes get time to cool off between runs.

I do some spirited driving quite often I would like to have some bigger brakes. And half the reason I want to do it is because the bigger rotor will look way better IMO
 
I do some spirited driving quite often I would like to have some bigger brakes. And half the reason I want to do it is because the bigger rotor will look way better IMO

RRE Sells brake lines that will work with outlander rotors and calipers, that's what I did. :thumb:

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/eclbrakes.htm

My outlander brakes:

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http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/465325-outlander-brakes-2.html
 
Looks awesome man! It seems that all the things you can do make the system work better overall. After reading all this information looks like I'm going to do the braided lines, 3G master cylinder, and the brake upgrade. I'm excited to get the car out in spring and see the improvement.
 
^^ Thanks! You'll love them, the difference is huge. I went from 20 year old stock, mushy brakes to these. They're so responsive, I can stop on a dime now.

The stock shield need to be bent back a little, and get a rubber mallet for getting the rotors on, they're a tight fit. :thumb:

I couldn't believe they fit under my 16" stock wheels, I was so stoked to not have to grind the calipers. :D


Oh, and I bought the Centric outlander calipers, they got surface rust on them pretty quickly. : - / So I hit them with rust remover and primed and painted them. They look much better now. Here's a before pic:

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And you can check out this thread to see the rotors I ordered:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/464943-best-brake-upgrade-options-stock-16-wheels.html
 
These brakes will NOT fit with 2G 5 spoke 16" rims. Some meat will need to be ground off the calipers if you are using these rims. Some other 16's I have fit without grinding.

Also, mind as well swap in a 3G booster too and just have it all done.
 
My only question is for the 1gs what do you do to make the 2 piston 2g caliper work with the 1g brake lines as they are different?

https://www.rtmracing.com/xcart/prod...at=1435&page=1

Would it fix the problem if I got the 2g brake lines ^? That really is my only question everything else should be bolt on if I read it correctly

If someone could show me how to make that work that would be awesome.
There was some slightly confusing info in the webstore regarding the Outlander fitment and 1g's. I've since corrected it. The basic facts are that ANY DSM dual-piston caliper (whether 1g or 2g) will work with the Outlander brackets. So for 1gers, it would be simpler to use 1g dual-piston calipers, that way you can use your current 1g brake lines. Also, I should point out that single-piston calipers do NOT fit on the Outlander brackets.

These brakes will NOT fit with 2G 5 spoke 16" rims. Some meat will need to be ground off the calipers if you are using these rims. Some other 16's I have fit without grinding.
This is correct.
 
There was some slightly confusing info in the webstore regarding the Outlander fitment and 1g's. I've since corrected it. The basic facts are that ANY DSM dual-piston caliper (whether 1g or 2g) will work with the Outlander brackets. So for 1gers, it would be simpler to use 1g dual-piston calipers, that way you can use your current 1g brake lines. Also, I should point out that single-piston calipers do NOT fit on the Outlander brackets.

This is correct.

So I could just get a set of 1g dual piston calipers and then ecetything else would bolt up? This is awesome seems like an upgrade everyone should do
 
So I could just get a set of 1g dual piston calipers and then ecetything else would bolt up
Yes.
This is awesome seems like an upgrade everyone should do
Well, compared to some of the "bigger" brake upgrades, the Outlander upgrade is fairly modest. But, I would agree that in terms of bang for the buck, it's almost impossible to beat. I run Outlanders on my own car, but to be fair, it's modestly built and will never see a track (and I've also done the 3g master upgrade).
 
The Outlander brake upgrade is my track day setup. It makes prep a cinch. For track days, it is mostly about the pad and brake fluid. For prep, I swap on the bracket, swap the pads (Carbotech XP10), and run dedicated centric blanks for the race pads. It is a 20 minute job. I don't run it all the time because my car is also involved in rally cross events, and I run a 15 wheel for those. I admit, it is not a high priced track setup, but for the money, you can't beat the Outlander swap.
 
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