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I was driving down the road today, and I noticed a mitsu emblem on a mobile Easter egg. I understand that the money for car manufacturers are allocated in gas-sipping EMF boxes. The kid driving it probably thought that he is really helping the environment. In order to make i Hybrid, 4 times more pollution is created than what it would take to make a regular car. For all the computer lovers out there, which we all are, 1 computers production is equivalent to 20 times the pollution of 1 car. These are sad but true facts. Oh, BTW, I mentioned EMF earlier. The electro-magnetic fields emitted from hybrid/electric cars is similar to driving in a power transformer. The only hybrid, besides the obvious different gen motor swaps, that I would drive would have to be a hydrogen powered car. Electrolysis is the eventual future.Electric car without Battery invented - Government killed inventor! - YouTube This link is pretty innovative too.
Isn't there something comical about a company that has rally pedigree creating electric cars. I still love the ol' Mitsu Co. even though they have forsaken us. I am going to have to make this a challenge in the DSM picture game. Your DSm next to the elusive Mitsubishi i Miev LOL


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Ya more then likely, started with suzuki just a guess as to which ones going to be next. Toyota and Honda would probably stay but I think Nissan will probably pull out as well. I heard a while back that mitsu wants to get back into the aviation sector.
 
For all the computer lovers out there, which we all are, 1 computers production is equivalent to 20 times the pollution of 1 car. These are sad but true facts.

I really would like to know where you get your facts, especially given the fact that cars already have at least one computer installed on board.
 
Anybody wondered what happened to the biggest next thing of the '90s and '00s, the hydrogen car? NO emission, only byproduct a few water droplets, hydrogen is everywhere..oh, wait, what? How do you produce hydrogen?
 
Hydrogen is not an energy source, it's an energy storage medium. You need lots of energy to make it. That's why it's not around. Ethanol is the solution. Brazil has been doing it since the 70's. We were/are a technology superpower and can't figure it out. LOLoLOL. To many people bitching about drug tests for welfare, and how to get dime for nothing, no one has ambition to actually nut up and do something in this country. Someone else will fix it for me.
 
I really would like to know where you get your facts, especially given the fact that cars already have at least one computer installed on board.

My computer class in 2011 required me to write a 2 theses on something computer related. One was on the effect of frequencies, i.e. cell phones and their towers, effecting bee navigation, and the other was on the effects of computer manufacturing and recycling. I know how you feel on someone making a claim and not having the credentials to back up their statement. There are many precious metals in one computer. For example, it is very hazardous to recycle computers. Many "recycling" companies ship these soon-to-be-recycled computers to China. There the computer parts are submerged in acids and other hazardous chemicals to extract the precious metals without any precautionary measures...etc.... Yet again I did not cite this. I just remember parts of my thesis. Do some research from accredited sources. It is shocking what you'll find. It really accumulates the chemical footprint when there are multiple computers in cars also. I just want people to be aware. Thanks for having an open mind guys.
 
I believe that keeping an open mind requires to process and understand what you read rather than just memorize it and eventually recycle it to others as hard facts (see the above mentioned case for hydrogen as the solution to all problems of pollution) .

I am not going to dispute your claims on computer parts recycling as I do not have any facts to show about that (and let me add that since I have been working in the computer industry since the Z80 come to light I must be a hell of a polluter), so Ill leave that alone .

I did misread your statement about the production of 1 computer polluting more than 1 car which I can not dispute (even though I doubt it can be proven), let just say that since 1 car contains more than one computer (and other electronic devices comparable to computers) it is safe to say that the production of 1 car pollutes more that the production of 1 computer. And once they are in use again on top of the car exhaust (an other by products such as spent oil, washer fluid, rubber, brake pad powder etc.) you have the pollution associated with each one of the computers on the car as opposed to your average computer if any...
 
This is a bit silly. Why is this even a discussion. Purely from a manufacturing standpoint your statements are correct, but over an extended period, the use of oils and fuel far out weigh the impact of an electric vehicle, even when considering the recycling of old battery packs. I think they have a place. Just not in my garage.
 
Purely from a manufacturing standpoint your statements are correct, but over an extended period, the use of oils and fuel far out weigh the impact of an electric vehicle, even when considering the recycling of old battery packs.

It's not just the disposal of the batteries, it's how they mine the material needed. And while cars do produce some nasty chemicals, the majority of the pollution can be reversed. That's not the case with Lithium batteries and their byproducts

Plus, where do people think Electric cars get their electricity? It's not magic, it's the product of Petroleum and Nuclear energy plants. So just because the icky black smoke doesn't come from YOUR car doesn't mean your not still contributing to the problem. And with 100lbs of toxic waste in the trunk, your likely just making it worse.

I agree with bastarddsm, Ethanol is a big step in the right direction. It's renewable, it burns clean, and it's affordable. Not to mention it's far better than regular gasoline for making power. Win-win.
 
Ethanol is a joke financially it could not stand without being subsidized in this country.

The real answer would be to make an electric car that ran on wireless ac power. Then make that power with hydrogen fission.
 
Ethanol doesn't burn clean! I would like to see some facts to back that statement up. Furthermore look at how much forest has been clear cut to plant soy and corn to produce ethanol! Not to mention the huge amount of energy used to produce it. All it's doing is making things worse.
 
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