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Hillsborough,
North_Carolina
Oranges were too close to apples in this case.
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Yes there is. And it's called Boost, and Traction,
promo and marketing for Mitsubishi Engineering, = more unity for the Mitsubishi community so the brand does NOT disappear, but regains footing and momentum in the market at large.
Mitsubishi engineering has always been very potent, but because of the direction of the parent company, the factory never took the time to fully develop what they had.
Would be cool to see some decent Mitsu road racers show up. TSiAWD666 what would it take for you to get a lap time faster than 3:29.30?
Would be nice just to have an Eclipse on the list haha. I have never even seen a race at that track so I don't even know quite how fast that even is...
Edit: Are we talking about the north course, south course or full course here?
Edit Edit: After watching a bunch of VIR full course laps on YouTube I don't think that page is right with the lap times. Most people out there just having a good time are getting around 2:40's to 3:00's a lap... unless it's not really the full course (even though they say it is...)
I don't have personal experience with the points system since I went from HPDE and started right away in TTU (unlimited Time Trial class). I would think using the mod points system is going to be quite difficult and annoying for you to police unless you have some experts across the field. As such, perhaps you might consider classing similar to what TT2 and up do, which is use a slightly weighted weight/hp ratio for classing. This would be much easier to manage as people just have to pony up dyno sheets. Basically you have ratios for various classes, and there are only a small number of modifiers (total weight, AWD, and tire size to name a few). Really is a hell of a lot simpler than the damned points stuff for lower classes (which is why I started in TTU, I didn't want to deal with that crap).
There really isn't a replacement for displacement,
I definitely would like to see cyber evo and sierra sierra evo on that track, and then lets see if displacement really matters. In Australia sierra sierra trap 186mph on the straight away mulike VIR configuration.
The cyber evo is a mind ####.
Those lap times on fastestlaps.com are for the Grand East configuration. Grand East is much more winding and is 4.2 miles compared to Full's 3.2 miles. I suspect any lap times of people just having a good time in the 2:40 range were actually on the Full configuration.
I would guess I would do under three minutes on Grand East though, but how far under I can't say. I haven't driven Grand East in six years because I don't really like it. Just as you get to rocking on the back straight you slam on your brakes and have to do a 180 and go through a boring downhill and then uphill section.
Grand East probably would help us versus Full overall as it cuts out one of the two big straights where big power comes into play.
Yeah North might be a bit better if you're still looking to try to stack things in our favor. I also find that boring because it cuts out the uphill esses which are the best part of the track.
I would stop worrying about trying to gain an advantage with track layout selection and get back to thinking about just how you're going to get this off the ground. I would get in touch with Jon Felton with NASA ([email protected]) and start a conversation about this. Another benefit to working with them or another established organization, aside from what I've mentioned in earlier posts, is trust. I don't yet know who you are and from your questions/comments I don't suspect you have much on-track experience (if you do, please don't be offended, we don't know each other!), so I don't expect you'll have much of a reputation with the racing community, yet you'll have to be asking folks to pony up a couple hundred dollars minimum plus work towards making and attending your event (which if you don't realize, it's a LOT of work preparing for a race day). Partnering with an established org will help people take this seriously and more likely increase attendance.