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May 17, 2009
Wadena, Minnesota
Who has them? Who drives them? What do you drive? Do you mod yours? Throw up some pictures!


As for me, I am currently looking at a '01 2500 Cummins flatbed with a few little things done to it. I'm having a tough time deciding if I should spring on it as I have a lot of people around me telling me it is a "terrible" idea and I should go for a smaller truck or something that runs on gas.

Anyway, here it is!

Yes, I know the windows says "00" but I was told it was a 2001 by the owner of the dealership.



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Drove smaller diesel trucks only couple of times, but really liked how they feel. Not only they got more torque, but also when you let off the throttle they do what you expect them to: start slowing down. Personally i would like to have a diesel something, am even thinking about building a road bike with a small diesel engine.
 
What do you want out of the truck? Doing any towing or heavy hauling?

Joel

Something reliable to help me move up to my apartment for school, drive to and from school and/or work as well as make it back home at the end of the year. Then once school is completely over; something able to hold my 7ft. tall tool box and haul a trailer behind it with either my stuff or one (or more) of my cars on it if not both a car and my junk. LOL

I also don't want to suffer the effects of a gasoline truck when hauling things; terrible gas mileage and excessive wear.

I also like the feeling of driving a diesel. :D
 
Who has them? Who drives them? What do you drive? Do you mod yours? Throw up some pictures!


As for me, I am currently looking at a '01 2500 Cummins flatbed with a few little things done to it. I'm having a tough time deciding if I should spring on it as I have a lot of people around me telling me it is a "terrible" idea and I should go for a smaller truck or something that runs on gas.

Anyway, here it is!

Yes, I know the windows says "00" but I was told it was a 2001 by the owner of the dealership.



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You want to be sure on the year? Check to 8th or the 10th vin digit. If its a Y it's 2000 if its a 1 it's an 01. Anything earlier than 01 used letters ending in Y.

It's the 10th
 
You want to be sure on the year? Check to 8th or the 10th vin digit. If its a Y it's 2000 if its a 1 it's an 01. Anything earlier than 01 used letters ending in Y.

It's the 10th

Oh I already know; my dad has his dealers license so I know all about what to check.
 
I have a beat to shit 87 Ford F-250 IDI. It was my grandpas, given to my dad, then given to me.

It will only do 60-65, but it does the job. I'll throw a pic of the piece up in a bit.
 
Too bad they don't make smaller trucks like a Ranger or S-10 with diesel engines. Something like that would be nice for someone who does not need a large truck on daily basis but has to pull trailers from time to time. Mahindra did try making something similar for US market, but it did not sell so production was stopped. Kinda odd though because overseas small diesel trucks and vans are quite popular.
 
Too bad they don't make smaller trucks like a Ranger or S-10 with diesel engines. Something like that would be nice for someone who does not need a large truck on daily basis but has to pull trailers from time to time. Mahindra did try making something similar for US market, but it did not sell so production was stopped. Kinda odd though because overseas small diesel trucks and vans are quite popular.

I would love to have a nice reliable diesel truck that was, say, the size of a Tacoma. It wouldn't even have to be a tdi. Sadly, Americans have not caught on to the diesels like the rest of the world.
 
Too bad they don't make smaller trucks like a Ranger or S-10 with diesel engines. Something like that would be nice for someone who does not need a large truck on daily basis but has to pull trailers from time to time. Mahindra did try making something similar for US market, but it did not sell so production was stopped. Kinda odd though because overseas small diesel trucks and vans are quite popular.

Grab a Ranger, S-10 or Dakota and throw a 4bt Cummins in it and call it good. Jk That would be a little bit of work.

Ford also made a diesel Ranger back in the 80's, they're very tough to find though.

I would love to have a nice reliable diesel truck that was, say, the size of a Tacoma. It wouldn't even have to be a tdi. Sadly, Americans have not caught on to the diesels like the rest of the world.

Well most of the idiots over here think diesels are one of the biggest contributors to global warming (which is another joke in and of itself).
 
Well most of the idiots over here think diesels are one of the biggest contributors to global warming (which is another joke in and of itself).
Lol, I blame the stupid people driving around the big trucks with soot pouring out the tailpipe for Americans hating on diesel. Global warming is caused by c02, and gas and diesel both contribute.
 
Well most of the idiots over here think diesels are one of the biggest contributors to global warming (which is another joke in and of itself).

Increases Air Pollution
Many car buyers only compare the fuel economy of the vehicles they are considering. Although some believe the amount of fuel a vehicle burns is the primary cause of global warming pollutants, there are other are other factors that need to be considered.

While diesel fuel generally produces more energy or miles per gallon than gasoline, it also has a much higher carbon content. In fact, diesel fuel produces approximately 13 percent more CO2 gas per gallon of fuel burned, compared to gas engines.

In Environmental Protection Agency tests measuring how much air pollution a particular make and model vehicle produces, hybrid gasoline-based vehicles scored much higher than clean diesel vehicles. In recent years, Honda Civic hybrid vehicles have scored an average of 9, while diesel Jetta cars have averaged scores of between 5 and 6. For the purpose of these tests, 1 is the lowest score and 10 is the highest. Higher scores are awarded to vehicles that cause less air pollution.

Creates More Oil Dependence

In addition to creating more CO2 gas, diesel fuel can also lead to greater oil dependence than fuel-efficient gasoline engine powered vehicles or hybrid vehicles. A joint Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Energy study showed that about 13 percent more raw crude oil is needed to produce a gallon of diesel fuel than is needed to make 1 gallon of gasoline. Therefore, unless the MPG difference between a diesel and gasoline engine powered vehicle is significant, a diesel powered vehicle will actually consume more crude oil.

Increases Carbon Footprint
Because even clean diesel powered vehicles create more CO2 gas than fuel-efficient gasoline powered vehicles or hybrid vehicles, they also have a larger carbon footprint. The carbon footprint of a vehicle provides the best estimate of how much greenhouse gas pollution a particular vehicle will produce. For example, popular Honda Civic hybrids produce about 4.4 tons of CO2 gas per year. On the other hand, a clean diesel powered Volkswagen Jetta produces about 6.4 tons per year, or about 45 percent more carbon-based emissions than the gasoline hybrid vehicle.

Even Clean Diesel Vehicles Can Cause Illness
Although modern clean diesel is much better than the diesel fuel that was created and formulated in past years, exhaust from diesel engines can still cause serious illness. Breathing in even relatively small amounts of diesel exhaust can cause serious illness--especially in children, the elderly or the chronically ill. Even very short term exposure can cause existing allergies to worsen or cause symptoms of asthma or bronchitis.

Sourced from Carsdirect.com
 
Not to mention when you hear somebody pull up in a Jetta diesel, and that thing is clacking away, you know the driver is light in the shorts.
And the dudes driving the 10ft jacked up super duty diesels are the same way, they just try to make you think otherwise with 4 inches of thick tread on the tires.
 
Yes yes, that evil global warming. It's. 85 degrees out in July and we had one hell of a winter in AR this year. Are we so hot were freezing?

Why not call it. Global cycles
 
I drive an 01 3500 diesel dually which currently gets 19.5 mpg, which is pretty awesome. And around 500-550 miles to a tank, that lasts me about two weeks. I have an Airdog 100 lift pump and fuel lines and a Smarty s03 tuner on the highest setting. I only really use it to commute to work and back, straight up highway the entire way, so thats the reason for the high mpg's. Filling up sucks at just over $100 a pop, but for two weeks or more of driving, I cant really complain too much. Ill be using it to tow my car out to Ohio this year for the shootout, I just have to find a trailer....
 

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Lol, I blame the stupid people driving around the big trucks with soot pouring out the tailpipe for Americans hating on diesel. Global warming is caused by c02, and gas and diesel both contribute.

Global warming never existed. Simply because the guys wearing white lab coats say something does not make it a set in stone fact. I love the sheep-like following of most of the world; especially in the US.

I'm also not afraid to say I'll be rolling some coal in this thing.

Increases Air Pollution
Many car buyers only compare the fuel economy of the vehicles they are considering. Although some believe the amount of fuel a vehicle burns is the primary cause of global warming pollutants, there are other are other factors that need to be considered.

While diesel fuel generally produces more energy or miles per gallon than gasoline, it also has a much higher carbon content. In fact, diesel fuel produces approximately 13 percent more CO2 gas per gallon of fuel burned, compared to gas engines.

In Environmental Protection Agency tests measuring how much air pollution a particular make and model vehicle produces, hybrid gasoline-based vehicles scored much higher than clean diesel vehicles. In recent years, Honda Civic hybrid vehicles have scored an average of 9, while diesel Jetta cars have averaged scores of between 5 and 6. For the purpose of these tests, 1 is the lowest score and 10 is the highest. Higher scores are awarded to vehicles that cause less air pollution.

Creates More Oil Dependence

In addition to creating more CO2 gas, diesel fuel can also lead to greater oil dependence than fuel-efficient gasoline engine powered vehicles or hybrid vehicles. A joint Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Energy study showed that about 13 percent more raw crude oil is needed to produce a gallon of diesel fuel than is needed to make 1 gallon of gasoline. Therefore, unless the MPG difference between a diesel and gasoline engine powered vehicle is significant, a diesel powered vehicle will actually consume more crude oil.

Increases Carbon Footprint
Because even clean diesel powered vehicles create more CO2 gas than fuel-efficient gasoline powered vehicles or hybrid vehicles, they also have a larger carbon footprint. The carbon footprint of a vehicle provides the best estimate of how much greenhouse gas pollution a particular vehicle will produce. For example, popular Honda Civic hybrids produce about 4.4 tons of CO2 gas per year. On the other hand, a clean diesel powered Volkswagen Jetta produces about 6.4 tons per year, or about 45 percent more carbon-based emissions than the gasoline hybrid vehicle.

Even Clean Diesel Vehicles Can Cause Illness
Although modern clean diesel is much better than the diesel fuel that was created and formulated in past years, exhaust from diesel engines can still cause serious illness. Breathing in even relatively small amounts of diesel exhaust can cause serious illness--especially in children, the elderly or the chronically ill. Even very short term exposure can cause existing allergies to worsen or cause symptoms of asthma or bronchitis.


Sourced from Carsdirect.com

I somewhat dislike you for attempting to be "that guy" in trying to prove me wrong. The funny part about this huge book you copied and pasted is that any hybrid is going to give off less emissions if it uses for example battery power. Let us not forget those toxic batteries that need to be changed ever so often. Those don't harm the Earth though; no no! A diesel makes more power off of its fuel too. When burnt diesel gives off more BTUs than gas. This creates more power while using less.

I also laugh at the part where they say it takes more oil to create diesel fuel. This simply isn't true. Diesel is made of the junk/waste left-over from making gas. This is why diesel SHOULD be cheaper, but for some reason isn't.

It's whatever though, I never suggested this start some sort of argument or what you will call a "debate". There really is no debate to be had.


Not to mention when you hear somebody pull up in a Jetta diesel, and that thing is clacking away, you know the driver is light in the shorts.
And the dudes driving the 10ft jacked up super duty diesels are the same way, they just try to make you think otherwise with 4 inches of thick tread on the tires.

I have yet to see anyone driving a 10' tall Ford with 4" of tread on the tires; I MAY not be looking hard enough but who knows.

In all seriousness; no matter what you're into there will always be those people that go over the top. That's a given'.

Yes yes, that evil global warming. It's. 85 degrees out in July and we had one hell of a winter in AR this year. Are we so hot were freezing?

Why not call it. Global cycles

It has always been and always will be one of the biggest farces ever created. I also believe money was and still is involved with it's creation and ability to survive.


I drive an 01 3500 diesel dually which currently gets 19.5 mpg, which is pretty awesome. And around 500-550 miles to a tank, that lasts me about two weeks. I have an Airdog 100 lift pump and fuel lines and a Smarty s03 tuner on the highest setting. I only really use it to commute to work and back, straight up highway the entire way, so thats the reason for the high mpg's. Filling up sucks at just over $100 a pop, but for two weeks or more of driving, I cant really complain too much. Ill be using it to tow my car out to Ohio this year for the shootout, I just have to find a trailer....

Thank you 92nolatist! I appreciate you actually followed along with the point of the thread. I like the silver; always have. Dualies aren't my thing even though I was very close to buying one earlier this summer.
 
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Increases Air Pollution
Many car buyers only compare the fuel economy of the vehicles they are considering. Although some believe the amount of fuel a vehicle burns is the primary cause of global warming pollutants, there are other are other factors that need to be considered.

While diesel fuel generally produces more energy or miles per gallon than gasoline, it also has a much higher carbon content. In fact, diesel fuel produces approximately 13 percent more CO2 gas per gallon of fuel burned, compared to gas engines.
In Environmental Protection Agency tests measuring how much air pollution a particular make and model vehicle produces, hybrid gasoline-based vehicles scored much higher than clean diesel vehicles. In recent years, Honda Civic hybrid vehicles have scored an average of 9, while diesel Jetta cars have averaged scores of between 5 and 6. For the purpose of these tests, 1 is the lowest score and 10 is the highest. Higher scores are awarded to vehicles that cause less air pollution.

Creates More Oil Dependence

In addition to creating more CO2 gas, diesel fuel can also lead to greater oil dependence than fuel-efficient gasoline engine powered vehicles or hybrid vehicles. A joint Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Energy study showed that about 13 percent more raw crude oil is needed to produce a gallon of diesel fuel than is needed to make 1 gallon of gasoline. Therefore, unless the MPG difference between a diesel and gasoline engine powered vehicle is significant, a diesel powered vehicle will actually consume more crude oil.

Increases Carbon Footprint
Because even clean diesel powered vehicles create more CO2 gas than fuel-efficient gasoline powered vehicles or hybrid vehicles, they also have a larger carbon footprint. The carbon footprint of a vehicle provides the best estimate of how much greenhouse gas pollution a particular vehicle will produce. For example, popular Honda Civic hybrids produce about 4.4 tons of CO2 gas per year. On the other hand, a clean diesel powered Volkswagen Jetta produces about 6.4 tons per year, or about 45 percent more carbon-based emissions than the gasoline hybrid vehicle.

Even Clean Diesel Vehicles Can Cause Illness
Although modern clean diesel is much better than the diesel fuel that was created and formulated in past years, exhaust from diesel engines can still cause serious illness. Breathing in even relatively small amounts of diesel exhaust can cause serious illness--especially in children, the elderly or the chronically ill. Even very short term exposure can cause existing allergies to worsen or cause symptoms of asthma or bronchitis.

Sourced from Carsdirect.com

But how much further will a diesel car go on that same gallon fuel when compared to a gas burner. Much, much further. The BMW 1 series I drove when I was in Germany was burning diesel and it would pull around 30mpg when it was running 210KM/H (125 MPH). I also would drive it over a month on one tank of gas. It was awesome.
 
19.5 mpg is impressive with just that tuner...


But I haul with gas and diesel vehicles weekly. Nothing compares to pulling with a diesel. The new gas trucks are overworked and sound like hell... they're 2012's too.
 
But how much further will a diesel car go on that same gallon fuel when compared to a gas burner. Much, much further. The BMW 1 series I drove when I was in Germany was burning diesel and it would pull around 30mpg when it was running 210KM/H (125 MPH). I also would drive it over a month on one tank of gas. It was awesome.

That is the point no one with such mindset as whomever originally typed that article understands. Sure, a diesel and gas might burn X amount both, but who goes farther on that amount? The diesel because of the BTUs is produces.

19.5 mpg is impressive with just that tuner...


But I haul with gas and diesel vehicles weekly. Nothing compares to pulling with a diesel. The new gas trucks are overworked and sound like hell... they're 2012's too.

I will say that I once hauled a shell with my dad's '03 Silverado 1500 Z71. It did fine but I would much rather have had a heavier truck in front of the trailer as well as more power and torque.
 
I sometimes get to drive our "rollback" old custom ford flat bed when we haul cars. I wish it was a diesel. Of course I've had the front end standing up about 5 feet in the work loading a merc that someone lost the keys for LOL Park drag.
 
I sometimes get to drive our "rollback" old custom ford flat bed when we haul cars. I wish it was a diesel. Of course I've had the front end standing up about 5 feet in the work loading a merc that someone lost the keys for LOL Park drag.

LOL That's hilarious!



Come on guys; I know you can't all be Prius driver's like johnmel! :ohdamn:
 
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There's my hooptie of a hauler in all its glory and whopping 11 miles to a gallon. And only 88K miles.
 
I somewhat dislike you for attempting to be "that guy" in trying to prove me wrong. The funny part about this huge book you copied and pasted is that any hybrid is going to give off less emissions if it uses for example battery power. Let us not forget those toxic batteries that need to be changed ever so often. Those don't harm the Earth though; no no! A diesel makes more power off of its fuel too. When burnt diesel gives off more BTUs than gas. This creates more power while using less.

I also laugh at the part where they say it takes more oil to create diesel fuel. This simply isn't true. Diesel is made of the junk/waste left-over from making gas. This is why diesel SHOULD be cheaper, but for some reason isn't.

It's whatever though, I never suggested this start some sort of argument or what you will call a "debate". There really is no debate to be had.

Im sorry to say that you are possible wrong Diesel fuel is not made from the left over from gas production ist parctully made the same way the process of making deisel fuel is three processes from crude oil separation, conversion and purification The next step in diesel production is conversion, which usually involves applying a catalyst to some of the heavier oils from the separation process to create more gasoline, diesel and propane. The final step in the process is purification, and usually involves exposing the products to hydrogen and a catalyst for the removal of sulfur. Nothing from that comes from the "left waste from gas" unless your confused with Biodiesel which uses plants and leftover veg oil from resturants.
But how much further will a diesel car go on that same gallon fuel when compared to a gas burner. Much, much further. The BMW 1 series I drove when I was in Germany was burning diesel and it would pull around 30mpg when it was running 210KM/H (125 MPH). I also would drive it over a month on one tank of gas. It was awesome.
What are trying say wow you got 30mpgs from your bmw first off alot of production cars now even non-hybrids get better mpgs then that so..... anyways im not trying to argue with anybody you want a diesel truck by all means get one and im not screaming on the top of lungs about globle warming (which i think is a huge joke in its self and has been proven to be) and im not sitting here saying that diesel fuel/production is at any cost effecting the earth.
 
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