danieltovar said:

Yes weird i was told that i was tunning 20, 18, but i was not told i was doing that low maybe he did that to be safe cause the knock was off. I wil try to go tomorrow for an retune

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So this thread was written because you dont have a boost gauge...

Please be smart with your car if your going to invest money in it do alot of research and outreach otherwise just toss your money in the drain. Pm my1gdsm for great tune. Please get it done right once and not agian. Research my man with a car of your setup you should get more "intune" in the mind about going fast. It's not like playing need for speed on playstation.

GSXftw said:

So this thread was written because you dont have a boost gauge...

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clipto said:

Please be smart with your car if your going to invest money in it do alot of research and outreach otherwise just toss your money in the drain. Pm my1gdsm for great tune. Please get it done right once and not agian. Research my man with a car of your setup you should get more "intune" in the mind about going fast. It's not like playing need for speed on playstation.

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Yea that ^

I would read more about tuning on here then go back or learn to do it yourself.
Goodluck

urbansmoker1 said:

The dude asked what he was tuning... Why the scarcasum?

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We've all turm them off at high rpm for years. I use the knock sensor to see how agressive I can go with the timing curve, in general. No knock in the key, but it depends on a lot of factor with the motor and setup in general.

rhamlinii said:

We've all turm them off at high rpm for years. I use the knock sensor to see how agressive I can go with the timing curve, in general. No knock in the key, but it depends on a lot of factor with the motor and setup in general.

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You don't think that we're talking about 2 different worlds?

There's a difference between a bw366, running 10's and getting a base tune at 12psi.

c2ypt1c said:

I'm pretty sure he was referring to WHO did the tuning, tedspec or fftec, which are the nicknames for some "famous" norcal tuners?

I'm curious as to why the OP thought his boost was at 20 when it was apparently around 12psi...

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I'm fully aware of who Ted is, i pretty sure i had read what is he using to tune with.

PieEyedPiper said:

You don't think that we're talking about 2 different worlds?

There's a difference between a bw366, running 10's and getting a base tune at 12psi.

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What's the difference.

Your not gonna run 10s with a base tune @ 12psi. Are you seriously asking whats the difference?

I know i have to learn my self and i hope i will do, but i wanted to make sure things where done righ by somebody that knows, cause i dont want to loose the money invested. Back when i firts when into dsm i did alot of wrong diccicions, where people use my low Intelligent on cars to take my money. So for my is better to pay my firts tune on my set up and see where I am at. I just got dsm link new at it, and tuning.

Well my tuner did not have time these weekend so Tuesday wil go and retune. I just got an new knock sensor to make sure it works and like posted above I will tell my tuner to go aggressive by how the knocking problem will let as go.
I did some research and will log my wide band to link today, also learn that that's not my limit on power it should be better from looking at many profiles where similar set up they made power.
Also that my boost dosent stay steady it drops maybe there is something I got to look why.

I do have an boost gage and from I remember I saw more that 10psi, so I didn't notice when my tuner lower my boost, for making it safe.
Also forgot I have another issue is that my isc is not set at 30 it's at 87 90 94 weird, so I will try to find out how to set it where it should be.

urbansmoker1 said:

I'm fully aware of who Ted is, i pretty sure i had read what is he using to tune with.

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PieEyedPiper said:

Wow.

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Could'nt have said it better myself...

ANYWAYS
OP, I realize english isn't your first language and it might be harder for you to find the right information, but paying someone to work on your car is not always the best way to go, and I see that you've found this out the hard way:

danieltovar said:

where people use my low Intelligent on cars to take my money.

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Honestly, nothing beats learning how to do things yourself and, in my opinion, that's what this forum is really about. Virtually every problem you will have with your dsm has been addressed at some point, you just gotta know how to find it and take the time to learn

Ok i swear something was ninja switched on me *scratches head* haha re read it.

well guys here it goes new tune from the amazing tedspec on norcal, i when and took my car to ted and he took his time to retune it and here it goes ted tune

I can't look at it on my phone, but does it feel better?

Glad Ted got it dialed in for ya..

Ted got it down he wanted to make more power, but its good for know cause I want to do e85 injection instead of doing meth injection, cause I am going to use 91 pump for less trouble for dd, also chance my 16g intake compressor cover for an 20g machine to fit the wheel, do the punishment 02 housing with there wasgate back to the exhaust, and see what I will do.

And yes the car feels better, just laggy turbo, and happy

You still on pump 91? About 20 psi?

It looks like it spools really late. But maybe that's normal for that turbine wheel in that housing? I dunno.

I cant remember what the original tune looked like but this looks good to me. I find it interesting that the timing doesn't really drop off at the onset of boost like pump gas tunes usually do. Then again the boost isn't anything crazy, so it's easier to get more timing that way.

ZenkaiRacerDsM said:

You still on pump 91? About 20 psi?

It looks like it spools really late. But maybe that's normal for that turbine wheel in that housing? I dunno.

I cant remember what the original tune looked like but this looks good to me. I find it interesting that the timing doesn't really drop off at the onset of boost like pump gas tunes usually do. Then again the boost isn't anything crazy, so it's easier to get more timing that way.

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Yes still on pump and the timming looks nice, so the next step is to take that 16g intake cover and install 20g that is bigger and see what it does is just weird how late it spools. Maybe that compo of wheel and small cover is not good.

Honestly, trying to make power on 91 really sucks! It's hard to make power that you will be happy with if you just run 91, especially with higher then stock comp like 9:1. Definitely think about getting some kind of injection such as methanol or e85. Or just go straight e85 like I did.

I ran methanol injection for quite some time with great success, and without it the car was dog slow. I ended up converting over to e85 and am very happy with the switch. I'm sure Ted can point you in the right direction on what you should do to get the most out of your setup. He is a very knowledgeable guy so take his advice when it's given.

Killa_dsm said:

Honestly, trying to make power on 91 really sucks! It's hard to make power that you will be happy with if you just run 91, especially with higher then stock comp like 9:1. Definitely think about getting some kind of injection such as methanol or e85. Or just go straight e85 like I did.

I ran methanol injection for quite some time with great success, and without it the car was dog slow. I ended up converting over to e85 and am very happy with the switch. I'm sure Ted can point you in the right direction on what you should do to get the most out of your setup. He is a very knowledgeable guy so take his advice when it's given.

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You are right about 91, but Ted did a great job tunning it on 91 for know and like Ted told me to have more i will need to inject e85 and ran on 91 pump gas I will follow is advice. The only thing that worries me is the turbo how laggy it is I need to find an solution or chance set up cause I will be dd for me.

What are you using to control boost?

Its a Hallman MBC.

My concern is the huge compressor wheel shoe horned in an Ebay 16G compressor housing. They also gave Daniel a 20G compressor cover hogged out for the compressor wheel thats on there. There has to be a gain to be had through that alone. How much? I don't know.

I don't even know where to start on the hotside of this turbo. The kind of machining that was done to squeeze the compressor and turbine wheels in, has to take an extreme toll on the efficiency, and spoolup characteristics of this turbo. It just doesn't make sense to mess with certain things on a turbo.

The pull is very gradual, non-violent and then it drops off. I can attribute the power dropping off to the 2G intake manifold, but a ported 2G head should produce a greater amount of velocity to make up for the off boost and spool-up characteristics of his setup.

Honestly, I am really not impressed with the turbo. I have tuned 16G (even 14B) cars on stock blocks with the same boost that pull all the way up to 8000rpms on a stock 1G intake manifold, with similar or even smaller cams.

There are things lacking and I would first start with the turbo. It just doesn't make sense to me. Its an ebay 16G compressor cover. Yes its ported and shiny, but what about the casting inside? Forget about that, what about the A/R in relation to the compressor cover? Maybe JusMX can comment on that type of thing. I am just not seeing how that is efficient at all. If it was something worth doing, Garret, BW, Holset, even PTE would have hopped on a design like that right away!

From there I would boost the octane points some via E85 or meth injection as I (and others in this thread) have strongly advised on 91 octane. There is nothing to lose and PLENTY to gain. Its been done for YEARS. Its nothing new and not everyone that does it, posts about it on the internet. This is word of mouth information that just works. As with any modification, there are risks.

Devils own has the best pump I ever ran back when I was still on 91 octane. I must have gone through about 4 shurflo pumps in a year before settling on 1 Devils own pump. It then lasted me well over a year until I sold it and went E85.

I don't know if alkycontrol or smc enterprises are still around, but they are worth a look too. Search those names through google and you may come up with something. But they were good from what I remember reading on the Grand National boards.

Yes i hope justin says something about the turbo, and i will change the 16g the comp cover for The 20g cover and also will do the e85 injection and see the potential of these custom turbo. Thats if i don`t chance my mind of having to go diff turbo, cause i don`t want to be tuning so many times.
For know i will have fun with teds tune for know

You need to look into OTHER causes for this late spool, cause something aint right there... WGA is cracked/prematurely open, pre turbo exhaust leaks, boost leaks, ect. I think Youve got other issues going on man. Also FYI Fp has been doing hybrid turbos in a similar fashion. I just now maxxed the TD05 cover out at 26 psi and 42 lb/min airflow, so that isnt your problem. If you havent upgraded your WGA then thats certainly it, TL advises everyone with a hybrid turbo to do this

GSXftw said:

You need to look into OTHER causes for this late spool, cause something aint right there... WGA is cracked/prematurely open, pre turbo exhaust leaks, boost leaks, ect. I think Youve got other issues going on man. Also FYI Fp has been doing hybrid turbos in a similar fashion. I just now maxxed the TD05 cover out at 26 psi and 42 lb/min airflow, so that isnt your problem. If you havent upgraded your WGA then thats certainly it, TL advises everyone with a hybrid turbo to do this

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yes sir i did change the wasgate, tight all my bolts again and fix all my boost leaks. then i got off work, and did a pull blown turbo no boost and alot of smoke, i did check the exhaust no oil dry then i took the intake pipe and the bolt came off with the shaft. next day i took it a part and found out that the shaft broke and that the oil ring seal on the shaft was deformed, but it did not leak oil all the smoke was to metal and burning smell.

So the turbo blew? Sorry to hear that.