Lifter tick

LordMustangGT · Mar 3, 2013

I was out pounding on the talon lastnight and now I got some baaad lifter tick. This didnt just start lastnight, but when I'd start the car the last few weeks id have what sounds like one lifter was super lazy and not pumping up, soon as I gave it a little gas, it pump up and go away just like that. Now, its here to stay. What have you guys done to fix this? Can they be ajusted? I as looking at "new" style with 3mm oil rings or whatever it is??? Still new to this 4g63 stuff... Seems to be down a lil on power now too.. and Yes, it has oil in it haha. LMK what you guys think :hmm:

undefined0000 · Mar 3, 2013

Uhm. Hopefully this is a lifter.

You'd want to replace with 3G lifters, they have the larger diameter ports. If the noise persists (after allowing a bit for the lifters to pump up), you might want to explore other issues.

jrdrew5 · Mar 3, 2013

I hope so to. Everyone i have ever heard from back from the track or beating on there car and noise started after that. Ussaly means ## about to spin a bearing.

undefined0000 · Mar 3, 2013

jrdrew5 said:
I hope so to. Everyone i have ever heard from back from the track or beating on there car and noise started after that. Ussaly means ## about to spin a bearing.

That's what I was thinking. Sounds exactly like that because a collapsed lifter would yield for a consistent noise with throttle, the fact that this at one point would disappear with throttle scares me.

LordMustangGT · Mar 3, 2013

the tick speeds up with engine speed, some times can dim a little but come back.

Now on too the rod bearings, I pulled each plug wire off while running, tick doesnt go away, so pretty sure rods bearing r not the problem, and it sounds like it coming from right under the valve cover.. I'll go shoot a quick vid.... its bad...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MCVAoKA58s]Talon tick - YouTube[/ame]

doubleturbo · Mar 3, 2013

That's definatly lifter tick, most if not all 1g and 2g's have this problem. You can solve this problem by picking up a set of 3g or 3rd generation revised hla's. (hydralic lash adjusters). From extreme psi for about 110$. Mine personaly got so bad it souned like a diesel.

danielsl1999gsx · Mar 3, 2013

Haha we got a cummins diesel 1g over here. But yeah man, that a lifter tick. My 2g sounds like this sometimes and i hate it. But since you already have 1g lifters i would definitely watch/try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue95zJ3wMHU

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtSjH4XM_vo

Archer Fabrications · Mar 3, 2013

Didn't know you could make a cummins diesel engine fit in a 1g..............

You meant a holset turbo right? Lol

Dont modify your lifters theres no way to insure all the metal shavings are gone.
3g lifters are so cheap why bother risking your engine.

Miasma · Mar 3, 2013

I've seen 3g lifters for about $80 bucks, swap them in and you should be ok. Before installing new lifters soak them in a cup of oil so they are submerssed in oil. Then pump out the lifters before installing them.

Archer Fabrications · Mar 3, 2013

I just used assembily lube and otherwise the inside was dry, everything is fine for me?

Miasma · Mar 3, 2013

urbansmoker1 said:
Dont modify your lifters theres no way to insure all the metal shavings are gone.
3g lifters are so cheap why bother risking your engine.

What do you mean by this? Never had a problem with a 3g lifter.

I lubricate lifters and rockers before installing by soaking in oil and scrubbing out any gunk, unless they're brand new then I just soak them. Sure you could just use assembly lube, but why not take the extra time to well lubricate them to ensure your engines health.

LordMustangGT · Mar 3, 2013

thanks for all your insight guys, Figured it was lifter tick, looks like ill just grab a set of 3gs and slam in there. :thumb:

doubleturbo · Mar 3, 2013

At the time I was new to the revised lifter thing. I bought what I thought was a set of 3g lifter, When come to find out they were 2g revised. Yeah, nothing like 3g. Cleaned them in kerosine, pumped then with oil, installed them, fired it up and loud as ever. Even worse then before. Come to find out the lifters were wrong, bought the correct ones. This time I bleed all the oil out, installed them, fired it up. Ehhh not so bad now, but Ive only fired it up 3 times since I installed them. So I cant say they've been good or bad.

Iam only hoping I didnt bend a valve pumping the 2g revised full of oil and installing them.

Miasma · Mar 3, 2013

doubleturbo said:
At the time I was new to the revised lifter thing. I bought what I thought was a set of 3g lifter, When come to find out they were 2g revised. Yeah, nothing like 3g. Cleaned them in kerosine, pumped then with oil, installed them, fired it up and loud as ever. Even worse then before. Come to find out the lifters were wrong, bought the correct ones. This time I bleed all the oil out, installed them, fired it up. Ehhh not so bad now, but Ive only fired it up 3 times since I installed them. So I cant say they've been good or bad.

Iam only hoping I didnt bend a valve pumping the 2g revised full of oil and installing them.

Sounds like you need to do a leak down test then. I hope you didn't either.

LordMustangGT · Mar 3, 2013

Also, where would you sugest getting 3g lifters from? I'm not trying to break the bank, I DD this, and mods arent that extreme, and I never turn it past 7.

danielsl1999gsx · Mar 3, 2013

Here you go son: 4G63T Mitsubishi Lash Adjusters

Archer Fabrications · Mar 3, 2013

Mi"sma;153217023 said:
What do you mean by this? Never had a problem with a 3g lifter.

I lubricate lifters and rockers before installing by soaking in oil and scrubbing out any gunk, unless they're brand new then I just soak them. Sure you could just use assembly lube, but why not take the extra time to well lubricate them to ensure your engines health.

Was referring to why not get 3g lifters instead of modifying your 1g i have topline 3g myself, you read me wrong.

99ECLIPSEGSXDSM · Mar 3, 2013

What kind of oil filter are you running? If it's a fram ditch it and get a k&n

Archer Fabrications · Mar 3, 2013

You mean ditch it and go oem? Lol

99ECLIPSEGSXDSM · Mar 3, 2013

Lol. As long as the filters not a fram. K&n works good for me

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