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Is SSAUTO FMIC still around?

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my98GST

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Jun 1, 2005
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I remember several years ago I got a group buy going for these kits. I was just wondering if they were still around and if their products have improved. I was also wondering if anyone did any real testing on these kits and how well they really performed. Like what the hp limit would be on this kit.
 
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There fine I made good power with one before I switched to ets fmic. There 3.5 inch cores just get
the right coupler for the lower intercooler pipe its starts small and exspands.
 
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$240 shipped on eBay...hmmmm not bad. Ima order me one, since the talon is in need of an fmic. Already got vrsf on both gsx and colt. Doesn't look bad at all. But is it me, or is the lower I.c pipe setup different then vrsf? Why is that...
 
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I wont need the Jpipe plus I found one on ebay for 214 shipped. I didn't know if they were the same private label or if it was an actual different kit.
 
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my98GST said:
Thank you sir.
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I had the SSAC kit on my old GST, and have the VRSF kit on my current GSX. I'm saying from experience that the VRSF kit is much better quality although very identical. Whether it is their own kit, or they just rework the SSAC kits I dunno. I received mine and it fit perfectly, welds were all good and no leaks. Holding up to 30 PSI currently on my Holset. Also all of the couplers & t bolt clamps are of a much higher quality. To top it off, the customer service is superb. You will not get that from the ebay seller.

My .002.
 
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SSAC also comes with 2 missing t bolt clamps and a 2.5 inch coupler, so be prepared to purchase extras.
 
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I love my SSAC. Mine fit perfect. No problems at all. No missing parts either. Boost tested great too. Run mine with a FP Green to a 1g n/t 60mm on a JMF race manifold. All I changed was the TB elbow.
 
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We are a VRSF dealer, if you are interested please send me a PM!
 
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9D9X said:
I love my SSAC. Mine fit perfect. No problems at all. No missing parts either. Boost tested great too. Run mine with a FP Green to a 1g n/t 60mm on a JMF race manifold. All I changed was the TB elbow.
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Pics of your setup? At $220 shipped it seems like great bargain for me. I already have a spare fmic j pipe. Just wondering why it would be less quality then the vrsf..Ic Core wise. Not to mention I've seen a few vrsf kits used sell for more then the ssac at $219. Who's gonna be the firs to buy one of each and nit pick the differences :p
 
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Definitely not the same kit. We share the same end tanks. Other than that, you're gambling on the eBay intercoolers in terms of their fin packs. Those guys chase the cheap kits when pushing products on ebay which means they end up taking whatever cheap core their supplier has on the shelf.

We've been using the same fin pack/core design for over 6 years and it's been proven to support over 700whp while still allowing air to reach the radiator with the use of our engineered external fin pack.

Our kit also cuts down hours of install time as well as potential boost leaks when you consider the fact that you have to hack the ssauto/ebay piping, machine the bov flange & tb flanges flat & source mounting hardware as well as the missing coupler and additional clamps. Our cores are designed to our specifications and recent dyno testing has proven relatively substantial gains from just replacing another company's FMIC with ours without tuning.

We also offer bolt on solutions j-pipe solutions for MHI turbos as well as our new modular BOV flange design at a competitive price. When you factor in the benefits, IMO our kit blows the ssauto out of the water. There's also our lifetime warranty and support vs SSAUTO/eBay's no support :)

Here's an example of what an engineered fin pack will do. These gains were made without any changes other than swapping the intercooler core. We made 30whp more on less boost.

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manny correa said:
$240 shipped on eBay...hmmmm not bad. Ima order me one, since the talon is in need of an fmic. Already got vrsf on both gsx and colt. Doesn't look bad at all. But is it me, or is the lower I.c pipe setup different then vrsf? Why is that...
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Because it is. That's the original ssauto design that barely works for most people. In order to use that setup you generally have to cut the piping and lose a bead rolled edge. Again, our piping looks similar but it's actually different. If you compare our UICP angle to something like MAP's ssauto kid they're relabeling you'd see that it isn't a straight shot like ours due to the wrong angle welded onto the TB.

We use a coupler in that location, remove the pipe and remove the extra potential for a boost leak.
 
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MaNGiNa24 said:
Definitely not the same kit. We share the same end tanks. Other than that, you're gambling on the eBay intercoolers in terms of their fin packs. Those guys chase the cheap kits when pushing products on ebay which means they end up taking whatever cheap core their supplier has on the shelf.

We've been using the same fin pack/core design for over 6 years and it's been proven to support over 700whp while still allowing air to reach the radiator with the use of our engineered external fin pack.

Our kit also cuts down hours of install time as well as potential boost leaks when you consider the fact that you have to hack the ssauto/ebay piping, machine the bov flange & tb flanges flat & source mounting hardware as well as the missing coupler and additional clamps. Our cores are designed to our specifications and recent dyno testing has proven relatively substantial gains from just replacing another company's FMIC with ours without tuning.

We also offer bolt on solutions j-pipe solutions for MHI turbos as well as our new modular BOV flange design at a competitive price. When you factor in the benefits, IMO our kit blows the ssauto out of the water. There's also our lifetime warranty and support vs SSAUTO/eBay's no support :)

Here's an example of what an engineered fin pack will do. These gains were made without any changes other than swapping the intercooler core. We made 30whp more on less boost.

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I don't know about all this, but I'm not saying your kit is better or worse either. My SSAC is a great core not like other cheap ebay. Fin pack/core design is the same, I don't care what you say. I have never come close to overheating my car stays the same temp. as it did before the SSAC install. Now for the TB elbow problem, I do not know because I did not use it. I used a 2.5 in silicone coupler because I have the 1G N/T ported TB. Still I think either kit is great and Yes the warranty part is nice but like I said I have never had a problem with mine I LOVE IT. It was will worth it. Now to the HP gains. 30 is a bit much unless you tested the cheapest core in the world because the SSAC core, like I said before is great. That being said if you would like to do a really world comparison, I would love to test it out for you on the dyno and see what your core and piping can or cant do compared to the SSAC I have and show everyone. Just let me know.
 
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I own the VRSF fmic kit and I've compared it side to side to an SSAC kit and the VRSF is just hands down better quality. I'm not saying it will out perform it because I simply do not know, but side to side the SSAC looks kinda rough and thrown together like they were in a hurry to get them made and ship them out.

Anywho, I love my VRSF kit and wouldn't change it unless I was going to try and pump out major HP.
 
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I don't know where these so called bad SSAC kits are coming from but mine in no way looks like it was throw together. I did buy it years back but I can not see how they maybe have gotten worse, I do not know for sure though. But also maybe it is the installer of the kits. Like they say a good craftsman does not blame his tools.


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Also, I would like to make it clear I was in no way saying the VRSF kit is bad, It looks great, it really does. I was just saying my SSAC kit is good too and well worth the money. If they let me have one to do a side by side install and dyno test challenge and write-up, and if it does make any where near 30hp more (which I do not think it will) I would be more than happy to buy it from them and bow my head to them and say their kit is better.
 
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9D9X said:
I don't know about all this, but I'm not saying your kit is better or worse either. My SSAC is a great core not like other cheap ebay. Fin pack/core design is the same, I don't care what you say. I have never come close to overheating my car stays the same temp. as it did before the SSAC install. Now for the TB elbow problem, I do not know because I did not use it. I used a 2.5 in silicone coupler because I have the 1G N/T ported TB. Still I think either kit is great and Yes the warranty part is nice but like I said I have never had a problem with mine I LOVE IT. It was will worth it. Now to the HP gains. 30 is a bit much unless you tested the cheapest core in the world because the SSAC core, like I said before is great. That being said if you would like to do a really world comparison, I would love to test it out for you on the dyno and see what your core and piping can or cant do compared to the SSAC I have and show everyone. Just let me know.
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This was an independent test, not done by us. Completely unbiased which is why we use this information. I don't believe in biased testing since anyone can easily sway a dyno to produce the results they want. We also have guys running 10 second quarter miles, about to break into the 9's with our kits. Can you say the same for the generic core you're running? I don't want to come across like I'm attacking you, I'm just posting facts.

We tested a comparably sized 3.5" core. Just because the end tanks look the same, doesn't mean the internal/external fin pack configuration is near the same. I've seen dozens of the ebay kits and I've seen dozens of internal/external configs. Almost all of them were different, some would block radiator flow, others would have straight through fin packs internally. Both of these things will produce a loss.

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I don't know where these so called bad SSAC kits are coming from but mine in no way looks like it was throw together. I did buy it years back but I can not see how they maybe have gotten worse, I do not know for sure though. But also maybe it is the installer of the kits. Like they say a good craftsman does not blame his tools.


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Also, I would like to make it clear I was in no way saying the VRSF kit is bad, It looks great, it really does. I was just saying my SSAC kit is good too and well worth the money. If they let me have one to do a side by side install and dyno test challenge and write-up, and if it does make any where near 30hp more (which I do not think it will) I would be more than happy to buy it from them and bow my head to them and say their kit is better.
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It's due to the fact that there isn't one individual selling a kit from one source on ebay, there are now dozens of suppliers who make their own version of this kit, and along the line everyone adds/removes an inch to the piping since they are copying a copy and they use whatever fin pack they have available. The cheap fin pack is generally always the choice for eBay bargain sellers.
 
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All I'm basically saying is do not put a blanket statement about all ebay intercoolers and all SSAC kits. I will bet you a million dollars you cut my intercooler apart and cut yours apart it would be the same. That being said YES there are alot of cheap junk out there and different kits being sold under same names and different names and that yours is way better then most but just don't put a blanket statement on ALL of something. Also that dyno sheet means nothing it has no data on it and no way to verify it. Like I said I would love to do a side by side on everything test to see, because I could be wrong. No hard feeling meant either...AND yes if I had no FMIC and I was out for a great priced one and peace of mind of what I was getting, then YES I would choose yours..HAHAHA hows that sound...
 
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9D9X said:
All I'm basically saying is do not put a blanket statement about all ebay intercoolers and all SSAC kits. I will bet you a million dollars you cut my intercooler apart and cut yours apart it would be the same. That being said YES there are alot of cheap junk out there and different kits being sold under same names and different names and that yours is way better then most but just don't put a blanket statement on ALL of something. Also that dyno sheet means nothing it has no data on it and no way to verify it. Like I said I would love to do a side by side on everything test to see, because I could be wrong. No hard feeling meant either...AND yes if I had no FMIC and I was out for a great priced one and peace of mind of what I was getting, then YES I would choose yours..HAHAHA hows that sound...
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So a dyno test done by an independent customer showing clear gains means nothing. Right. I'd take you up on that bet but I doubt you're in a position to pay up once I won :thumb:

I never said they were all bad, I just said you can't assume the one you're getting is going to be anything like the one sold before from them since they're shopping the cheapest distributor :)

I can honestly say that no matter which one bought on ebay, the extra 20-40 you spend on ours is going to be better in every way since the one you're buying on eBay at a discount is going to cost you more than that $20-$60 in the long run to install. The cost of the extra coupler, t-bolts, install hardware, fixing the t-body/bov flange that most of the kits have a problem with, cutting the pipes, beading the pipes and the hours of extra labor involved with installing them surely make up for the difference in price. This is all assuming you get a proper core for a DSM vs a generic core off the shelf.

There's also a reason so many people claim the SSAUTO causes their car to overheat. The fin pack is simply not the same.
 
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