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What Turbo is this? [Merged] Turbo ID Identification

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Just got this turbo in a trade. After looking through this thread, and a lot of searching im pretty sure its a t04b v trim compressor with a p trim turbine. (click pics for larger version). To me it looks like the turbine wheel specifically has a lot of room between the turbine housing and blades though. my calipers wont go in to get a measurement, but it looks like theres 2mm all around, if not 3mm.

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I got it in the mail, and measured the compressor and turbine wheels, and heres the measurements i got with my digital caliper:

Compressor:
IN: 53.25mm (vtrim compressor IN: 55.35mm)
EX: 67.5mm (vtrim compressor EX: 70.00mm)

Turbine:
IN: 72.83mm (ptrim turbine IN: 74.22mm)
EX: 62.2mm (ptrim turbine EX: 64.62mm)

if those are still within spec, than thats fine but it seems like a huge difference to me. and the wheels/housings dont look like the wheels have rubbed.
 
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Just bought a Galant VR4 with this turbo on it. Shaft play is huge and was pissing oil like a sieve.

A.) What turbo is this?
B.) Does anybody make a rebuild kit for it?

Thanks in advance for the help and for the 2 hours I spent reading through only a relatively small portion of this thread, heheh.
That's some sort of T4-spec Borg Warner. Most likely uses a Garrett T04E rebuild kit- may want to check on the shaft spec first to verify that it's not a "big-shaft" unit.

That series of Borg uses Garrett parts.

Just got this turbo in a trade. After looking through this thread, and a lot of searching im pretty sure its a t04b v trim compressor with a p trim turbine. (click pics for larger version). To me it looks like the turbine wheel specifically has a lot of room between the turbine housing and blades though. my calipers wont go in to get a measurement, but it looks like theres 2mm all around, if not 3mm.

BEP T04B V-Trim with compressor and turbine damage. How are you missing the huge scrape marks on the compressor cover and the bent fins on both sides? That turbo's not worth repairing based on the cost to fix it properly versus it's potential power output.
 
BEP T04B V-Trim with compressor and turbine damage. How are you missing the huge scrape marks on the compressor cover and the bent fins on both sides? That turbo's not worth repairing based on the cost to fix it properly versus it's potential power output.

Because its 230am and for some reason im doing this instead of sleeping ROFL

just looked at the compressor again. i noticed the blades were bent inwards but it looked the same as the other pic in this thread, then i noticed that one or 2 were wavy and not just curved.

The turbine i assumed, i saw the marks but it wasnt 'grooved' like ive had happen in the past.

I got it originally to either run it as is, or to possibly have the bolt on housing machined to accept the larger/aftermarket holset hx40 turbine wheel. looks like ill look more at the latter now
 
Won't take too much work to machine it for a HX40 turbine- the wheels are nearly the same spec. :thumb:

That's about your best bet at this point. Like I said, major damage otherwise- not worth repairing.

Yeah im gonna just end up doing that.

But while im thinking about it, do you think it will be an issue if i stick with just the standard 64/76mm hx40 turbine wheel, and have an extra .62mm clearance on the exducer side? or should i try and have it opened up to take the aftermarket 67/76mm wheel (but then tip height goes up 1.25mm as well if thats a big deal)
 
That's some sort of T4-spec Borg Warner. Most likely uses a Garrett T04E rebuild kit- may want to check on the shaft spec first to verify that it's not a "big-shaft" unit.

That series of Borg uses Garrett parts.

The shaft is 10.15mm at the journals and 10.00mm between them.

But... is it reparable with this much damage on the compressor wheel and housing? Is it possible to simply buy a T04E compressor wheel and a rebuild kit, or is there any other way to make it work??
 

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...still looking for some advice on this. I'd like to find some way to rebuild this if possible. I have access to a machine shop and can probably make the housing work, but what are my options for the compressor wheel?

The compressor wheel has a 66.5mm inducer and 84.0mm exducer. I don't know what trim, and the shaft is 6.2mm where it goes through the compressor wheel. The housing is a .60A/R.
 
That turbo's junk.

The only way to fix it properly would be to acquire a larger wheel and have the cover machined, or replace both the wheel and cover. Not knowing exactly what wheel it is or what may be the next size larger (if any exist), it's probably better to just turn your back and find something in good used condition as you're going to spend a pile of money and still have one laggy, outdated T04E turbo on your hands when it's all said and done.


Or, this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BorgWarner-...Parts_Accessories&hash=item460a4c7f1c&vxp=mtr
 
K. Thanks for the input, Justin.
 
Man I love reading through this thread. It's like watching a surgeon work~
 
I got a turbo in a deal, No idea what it fits or what it is from.

It is an IHI turbo, not a MHI

Up/down play is about .040 and in/out is minimal.

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Will it bolt on to my DSM? Oh wait... I still do not own one... ROFL

Thought I have a bit of fun at Jus expense!
 
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IHI RH6B from some type of small-displacement Japanese diesel engine, like a Yanmar or Isuzu. Not really a good choice for a high-boost application, although this may potentially make a Honda guy's day if he's running below 10psi. :thumb:

The parts kit should you choose to service it is either NN199833 or NN199835...I can't really make out that "VC" number on your cover to get the correct kit. There's a number missing....it should say "VC" with six numbers after it, but I'm only seeing five. Regardless, finding an IHI dealer to buy parts from wouldn't be an easy task. LOL
 
Jus... Like I rebuild turbos......

When the time comes for it.. guess who will be getting the nod to do it!
 
Time's up- the cover's a machined Small 16G cover, so it's either a 17C or 19C....both of which are about the size of a Big 16G wheel with less high-boost efficiency. Texas Rebuild used to make these back in the day under the codename "Frankenstein Jr". They weren't too popular.
 
Time's up- the cover's a machined Small 16G cover, so it's either a 17C or 19C....both of which are about the size of a Big 16G wheel with less high-boost efficiency. Texas Rebuild used to make these back in the day under the codename "Frankenstein Jr". They weren't too popular.

Ahh..I couldn't let you say that right after my post..So thank you for giving it a timeline like effect..EDIT,,A little over an hour is your timeline Justin..ROFL

Well were gonna put the 14b, up against this new bastad turbo in the spring..I honestly hope your right..But were gonna see..If the 14b blows, which I doubt it will, this will go on sooner.Otherwise I'll say mid summer, and I'll switch over to this, bastard..

Once this gets on, we will go over the logs..On the same mods, and see what turbo is the better "14b" ;)

I'm still aiming for you to be right...But we'll see.
 
Well obviously it's going to generate more airflow than a 14B....but pair a 17C up to a Big 16G with the same size wheel and the 16G is going to stomp it across the board. Same goes for the 19C which is a tiny bit closer to the 18G in overall size....the 18G being much more-efficient.

In other words, there's a reason the 17C came from the factory on Sy/Ty trucks with an 8psi actuator. :D
 
anyone see one of these before?
Mitsubishi Turbo Core TD06 8 Part Number 49593 22501 | eBay

Time's up- the cover's a machined Small 16G cover, so it's either a 17C or 19C....both of which are about the size of a Big 16G wheel with less high-boost efficiency. Texas Rebuild used to make these back in the day under the codename "Frankenstein Jr". They weren't too popular.

don't know why you keep dissing the 17c and 19c wheels. obviously you never have run them. I have run them both and they pretty dang close to 18g/20g performance.

the wheel in the pic is neither. the 17 and 19 had straight blades
 
ROFL

See Justin These are the responses I wanted..

Turbine wheel is just a tdo5..

Although thats a good question for Justin..What determines the staggard comp wheel on mits turbo's? Just the way that turned out or?
 
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