im lookin for some pics of an evo 8/9 turbo and mani bolted to a dsm block in the proper evo orientation. ive searched here and google and cant seem to come up with any pics with both.

purpose being, im looking at stuff to run for my 2.4l build, and want to try a 20g or bit larger with the TS from the evo.

my ps is deleted (miata mod), as is a/c and the alt will be relocated. i just want to know if the turbo will clear our block, mounted in the proper direction.

so, anyone got pics or the parts laying around? makes me wish i hadnt sold the evo 9 10.5t turbo i got for essentially nothing now...

I think the exhaust housing hits the ballancer hump.

It won't hit if the manifold is built right. My friend has an Evo 8 16g on his 2g gst and everything clears perfectly with the manifold that he built for it. I can't find the pictures of it or I'd post them for you.

true, but he was looking to use a stock manifold. It's probably nothing that extra long studs and another flange as a spacer wouldn't fix.

Another idea, is to do what 94AWD did, and use an EVO10 setup and weld a dsm flange onto it.

Oops, I wasn't clear that he wanted to use the stock exhaust manifold. With a nice manifold like Steve built you can clear everything and have room/options for Evo upgraded turbos down the road.

bastard: is it the dp elbow or the hotside itself?

revolution: im not looking to use a custom manifold, just and oem manifold.

the other option i have is get and evo 10 manifold and weld the dsm head flange onto that, then i can use an evo 10 20g or bigger. but id prefer to do as little fab as possible, stock parts would be a big plus.

if i go full custom manifold id be better off getting and hx35/40 or a hybrid of the two

edit: you beat me to the options. his thread is what kinda spurred my idea.

I'd do the evo10 stuff if it were me.

that is my next option, but not having to weld the cast pieces would be nice. if it comes down to it, ill do the 10 when i can.

See if you can borrow some evo8 parts and see how it fits. I've never done it so I don't know, but i seem to remember in the pics i've seen that something hit. I'm kinda intrigued by the evo10 stuff I might do something like that soon.

im gonna see if anyone around has some parts. nothing came up readily on CL.

the only thing i could think that might hit is the WG diaghram and or arm, but i dont know for sure. if it clears the BS hump ill be stoked.. would make my Pass side exit exhaust really easy and FMIC pipe routing way nice.

It hits the water pipe coming off the pump, not the bs hump. And the best way to do it is build a custom header that flips the turbo inlet towards the stock location, as i did.

Note: this will leave the psp in and alt if you choose, but rad fan(s) must be removed and a pusher fan installed

Cdc1221 said:

It hits the water pipe coming off the pump, not the bs hump. And the best way to do it is build a custom header that flips the turbo inlet towards the stock location, as i did.

Note: this will leave the psp in and alt if you choose, but rad fan(s) must be removed and a pusher fan installed

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gotcha. hmm, wonder if i could have my buddy bend me a water pipe to fit around it.. or just reroute the pipe altogether.

if anyone has some pics, id still like some.

In my opinion it wouldn't be worth all the modification and cost of doing it versus traditional dsm setup. You could spend the money on some other aspect of the car

You could possibly just come forward outa the pump, and run a scirocco radiator. Have to figure out somthing for the heater hose tho.

bastarddsm said:

You could possibly just come forward outa the pump, and run a scirocco radiator. Have to figure out somthing for the heater hose tho.

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That's exactly what i'm talking about.. All this modification and money isn't worth it to me over running a big 16g the normal way.

Look at the last 10-15 posts here.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=351880

toofast82 said:

That's exactly what i'm talking about.. All this modification and money isn't worth it to me over running a big 16g the normal way.

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If you knew how far you could carry the evo 9 turbo you wouldn't say that.

MJcanada said:

If you knew how far you could carry the evo 9 turbo you wouldn't say that.

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Yes i'm aware what the evo9 turbo can do and i'm still saying that..
Used evo9 turbos run around $400, then custom oil and water lines, half radiator possibly too etc, along with some other modifications like charge pipes, heater hose..
You're now talking a very expensive evo turbo setup... You could go with many other turbo options that spool decent and flow quite a bit more

toofast82 said:

Yes i'm aware what the evo9 turbo can do and i'm still saying that..
Used evo9 turbos run around $400, then custom oil and water lines, half radiator possibly too etc, along with some other modifications like charge pipes, heater hose..
You're now talking a very expensive evo turbo setup... You could go with many other turbo options that spool decent and flow quite a bit more

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Look at the thread i posted. I can use it with stock radiator. It bolts on. Tell me what 16g besides the evo can make it over 400hp spooling very close to stock. Upgrade the nine to fp black and you got a turbo that capable of 700hp and spools 40psi @ 3'800rpms(aclaimed by users). Piping for mine would be the same as regular fmic piping. Might need to make/find 1 diff pipe.
Regular ss hose off ebay for a reg 16g would work. Though i must say i got a good deal in my kit.

Since when do turbos and manifolds bolt to blocks?

Bud92gsx said:

Since when do turbos and manifolds bolt to blocks?

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This made me reread to original post. Why the hell do you want it in the evo position which with some serious piping makes you move ps pump and maybe alt? Makes no sense

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Look at the thread i posted. I can use it with stock radiator. It bolts on. Tell me what 16g besides the evo can make it over 400hp spooling very close to stock. Upgrade the nine to fp black and you got a turbo that capable of 700hp and spools 40psi @ 3'800rpms(aclaimed by users). Piping for mine would be the same as regular fmic piping. Might need to make/find 1 diff pipe.
Regular ss hose off ebay for a reg 16g would work. Though i must say i got a good deal in my kit.

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You bought a one-off kit that someone put together for what you say is a good deal. And said in there you got the turbo for free.. Not everyone is going to have this luxury.
For the cost of doing it new from scratch and having to pay for a used evo9 turbo, i continue to say its not worth bothering with it.
There's so many great turbo options for dsms in every power level desired, there's no real reason to shy away from going the traditional route

I agree i guess I had been looking for awhile when i found the kit. I paid 1350$ for the kit i believe and turbo came with the evo engine i bought for 600$. Sold the vc and rest of engine later so basically it was free. It is cheaper to do traditional but just not my style i guess.

I do plan on making this route easier for others in the future.

Dont knock it til youve tried it. The evo 8/9 turbo in the 10.5 housing spools almost as fast as my t25 did, doesnt fall off like standard 16gs do, and i have absolutely no issues with boost creep. I have just around $200 in my setup. Of course i do have the luxury of a full machine shop at my disposal so i was able to build my headers, including the flanges, and the lower ic pipe. But the downfiring compressor does leave it easier to run a short route fmic if i choose to, though im considering w2a for shorter spool time.

I do have to say though, that on my awd ill probably go with a stock oriented turbo because of the headache of custom fabbing