To 16g or not to 16g?

Throwback23 · Nov 5, 2012

Hey everyone, I'm posting because the wife gave me the green light to get a turbo given its 500 or less and i am having a seriously hard time deciding which turbo to go with...as I've stated in previous posts I have a bullseye 57 trim that makes 21psi at roughly 4500rpm and pulls hard but takes a lot of the fun out of my car not having any low end, for that reason I've been really looking at getting a rebuilt evo16g. My goals are 350whp, 12s, and a fun street car....I do have supporting mods but I'm weary of maxing that turbo out, how long will it last at 22-23 psi? That's a concern of mine as pushing anything to its potential sounds scary LOL

. My buddy rode in a supposed 350hp 16g talon and said it seemed slower then mine, is the top end that different? Is this the right turbo for me, given my goals? Any input helps, sorry if I come off as newb..I'm also open to ther turbo options, thanks!

Cdc1221 · Nov 5, 2012

Yea as for that id stick with your turbo and just up the boost

dustin_8907 · Nov 5, 2012

You can't go wrong with an Evo 3 16g. Love mine, best street turbo IMO. I'm only running 18 psi, fun as hell upping the boost when my 650's come

95talongirl · Nov 5, 2012

The 16g is a fun little turbo. It's very responsive, and IMO a great street turbo. I say go for it!

bcjjones · Nov 5, 2012

Yea I love my big16....Really started wanting a 20g, but ive heard there not a great street turbo so im probably sticking with it and getting some decent cams!

Cdc1221 · Nov 5, 2012

No but the 18g is. Or find a nice twin scroll hotside for a 57 trim

undefined0000 · Nov 5, 2012

I'm pretty sure this is what's in my car:

TD05 Big 16g Turbo turbocharger EVO 3 4g63 4G63T | eBay

and I have no complaints. It scares me that its ebay, but it only seems like theres a bit of up and down play on it, works fine otherwise, it is pretty loud too, sounds like a jet, not sure if its good or not, but I've put probably 4k miles on it since I bought the car. Its spooled by about 4k rpms I would say. I was doing 15psi, but I bumped it back down to 12.

OutKastGSX · Nov 5, 2012

Im also in a similar delima. i have a small 16g and Im wondering if i should max this turbo out before i move on. i have a vrsf front mount,fp manifold that haven't been put on yet. on the car i have a dejon intake,cop setup,and walbro 255. i plan to buy link and new injectors very soon. so my question is should i throw those mods on and up the boost with a good tune. or upgrade to the fp green xl.

Cdc1221 · Nov 5, 2012

Everyone here will agree to get link. Honestly, if you already plan to jump up anyway, might as well save the 16g and sell it as a good used unit and put the money towards injectors or whatever instead of burning it up

dfwdsmer · Nov 5, 2012

I would go with the 16g man had so much fun with mine

griffin81 · Nov 5, 2012

There is nothing wrong with a 16g. Its all about total set of a cars build what the owner wants.
I like the quick throttle responce with my 16g.

OutKastGSX · Nov 5, 2012

Cdc1221 said:
Everyone here will agree to get link. Honestly, if you already plan to jump up anyway, might as well save the 16g and sell it as a good used unit and put the money towards injectors or whatever instead of burning it up

What i was thinking as it is in mint condition. no shaft play either way. not to turn this into a classified ad. but what is it worth.

Throwback23 · Nov 5, 2012

Cdc1221 said:
Everyone here will agree to get link. Honestly, if you already plan to jump up anyway, might as well save the 16g and sell it as a good used unit and put the money towards injectors or whatever instead of burning it up

not sure I understand what you mean, I don't have the 16g yet but like the idea due to the quick spool and low end power...I'm looking for 350whp if it will make that power for a long time I see myself keeping it once I do get it...as for link I have 2.5, 780cc percision injectors, ect...all the supporting mods for the power ill be making.

As for the twinscroll hot side I've never thought of the idea, is that somthing that somone can point me in the direction of? I'm interested in looking into that before I spend the money on the 16g

OutKastGSX · Nov 5, 2012

Throwback23 said:
not sure I understand what you mean, I don't have the 16g yet but like the idea due to the quick spool and low end power...I'm looking for 350whp if it will make that power for a long time I see myself keeping it once I do get it...as for link I have 2.5, 780cc percision injectors, ect...all the supporting mods for the power ill be making.

As for the twinscroll hot side I've never thought of the idea, is that somthing that somone can point me in the direction of? I'm interested in looking into that before I spend the money on the 16g

I think he was responding to me LOL

. sorry to thread jack.

Cdc1221 · Nov 5, 2012

OutKastGSX said:
What i was thinking as it is in mint condition. no shaft play either way. not to turn this into a classified ad. but what is it worth.

Generally i see used mhi units for around $300, maybe a bit more

OutKastGSX said:
I think he was responding to me . sorry to thread jack.

Throwback23 said:
not sure I understand what you mean, I don't have the 16g yet but like the idea due to the quick spool and low end power...I'm looking for 350whp if it will make that power for a long time I see myself keeping it once I do get it...as for link I have 2.5, 780cc percision injectors, ect...all the supporting mods for the power ill be making.

As for the twinscroll hot side I've never thought of the idea, is that somthing that somone can point me in the direction of? I'm interested in looking into that before I spend the money on the 16g

Well for instance, the evo 8&9 16gs are twinscroll with a bigger turbine for better spool and flow over older 16gs. Google t3 twin scroll and see what you come up with

OutKastGSX · Nov 5, 2012

Cdc1221 said:
Generally i see used mhi units for around $300, maybe a bit more

Awesome thanks i actually have a friend with a srt-4 looking for a 16g.

Cdc1221 · Nov 5, 2012

OutKastGSX said:
Awesome thanks i actually have a friend with a srt-4 looking for a 16g.

No problem. Glad to help

toofast82 · Nov 5, 2012

OutKastGSX said:
Awesome thanks i actually have a friend with a srt-4 looking for a 16g.

They'll need a reverse rotation tdo5hr such as evo8/9 if he was planning on using it on a s3 manifold or having a custom stock turbo manifold modified to fit the larger turbo.

To the OP:
Big16g is a very fun street turbo that spools quick. Mid-low 12s are very possible on pump93 with a good tune, good driving and some boost.
I tuned a friends 1g last week on e85/16g and the car moved real good at 25psi. I was very impressed with it for the setup :thumb:

OutKastGSX · Nov 5, 2012

toofast82 said:
They'll need a reverse rotation tdo5hr such as evo8/9 if he was planning on using it on a s3 manifold or having a custom stock turbo manifold modified to fit the larger turbo.

To the OP:
Big16g is a very fun street turbo that spools quick. Mid-low 12s are very possible on pump93 with a good tune, good driving and some boost.
I tuned a friends 1g last week on e85/16g and the car moved real good at 25psi. I was very impressed with it for the setup

Hmm may not work out then glad for the input from a real NEON owner

my friend gets so mad when i cal it a neon. quick question what turbo would you recommend for him. he is looking to make 350hp.

ncdirtrider249 · Nov 5, 2012

For the price of a 16g, you could probably get your hands on a decent 20g. Or, buy a blown 16g and make it into a 20g. That's what I did essentially, and it's been fun! I'm going to either keep it or put the 60-1 I'm looking at on it eventually

toofast82 · Nov 5, 2012

OutKastGSX said:
Hmm may not work out then glad for the input from a real NEON owner
my friend gets so mad when i cal it a neon. quick question what turbo would you recommend for him. he is looking to make 350hp.

This is actually an evo8 turbo in a stage3 manifold I have. It's the setup I plan to run next spring to get the car into the 11s hopefully, but will probably end up going with a 20g compressor when the time comes

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Is your friend looking to make 350whp on pump or meth or e85?
I honestly don't expect to make 350whp on 93oct on the new setup of mine, but it should make around 400whp on e85

OutKastGSX · Nov 5, 2012

toofast82 said:
This is actually an evo8 turbo in a stage3 manifold I have. It's the setup I plan to run next spring to get the car into the 11s hopefully, but will probably end up going with a 20g compressor when the time comes
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Is your friend looking to make 350whp on pump or meth or e85?
I honestly don't expect to make 350whp on 93oct on the new setup of mine, but it should make around 400whp on e85

He's trying to do it on 93 pump. it is his dd. he has been looking at the delta 42 kit but its kind of expensive.

toofast82 · Nov 5, 2012

OutKastGSX said:
He's trying to do it on 93 pump. it is his dd. he has been looking at the delta 42 kit but its kind of expensive.

That only flows 42lb/min while even evo8 turbos can flow up to 44lb/min. Honestly that turbo won't get the job done with 350whp on pump, mayb race gas or e85.
The good ole 50trim works very well on the srts for what your friend is looking for out of his car. It's one of the best, if not the best matched turbos for stock longblock cars. He could probably get the job done on a .48 turbine housing with pretty damn quick spoolup or go with the .63 for some extra topend.
Going to t3 setup on srt's along with all the other supporting mods isn't cheap haha

OutKastGSX · Nov 5, 2012

toofast82 said:
That only flows 42lb/min while even evo8 turbos can flow up to 44lb/min. Honestly that turbo won't get the job done with 350whp on pump, mayb race gas or e85.
The good ole 50trim works very well on the srts for what your friend is looking for out of his car. It's one of the best, if not the best matched turbos for stock longblock cars. He could probably get the job done on a .48 turbine housing with pretty damn quick spoolup or go with the .63 for some extra topend.
Going to t3 setup on srt's along with all the other supporting mods isn't cheap haha

Lol thanks a bunch ill let him know what you said and see what he wants to do.

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