hi there lately i have had this crazy idea in my head, what ive been wondering is, is it possible to take a 2G AWD DSM and put a 1G non turbo 4g63 in it and have a non turbo awd 2g? i just think it would be unique and confuse the hell out of people. if anyone has info on this or has EVER heard of this please let me know i want to look into it sometime.

thanks,
josh.

...why would u even waste brain power with that

I think you may be officially retarded!! Don't ruin a good car

ZombieSix said:

...why would u even waste brain power with that

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why would you even waste the time to comment if your not helping. its a simple question i asked. no need for the negetivity.

bjmauck said:

I think you may be officially retarded!! Don't ruin a good car

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its not ruining it if its already ruined and ## fixing it but changing a bit. i already have a 2g awd turbo i just want to know if this idea would work. people build some weird projects why cant i

have fun with that it would take tons of custom work and those motors dont prosuce enought power to even need awd

It is possible, as anything is possible with deep pockets. Reality it could be done with the right knowlegde, but I personally would not, just not my thing. For the record, there are not to many people on the site that are open to trying new things.

I personally like the idea, I don't think you are ruining a car. I have been running the idea through my head recently of having a non-turbo AWD car, just getting a nice set of cams, lightweght pistons/flywheel/everything, and high compression. Jus having a really efficient set up.

So in theory it should work, you might have some fun reprogramming everything and re-wiring. But I say if you have the cash and the time go for it. People said putting a 6g73 in a GSX was ruining it once too, turns out its just cool.

Your gonna get flamed to hell on this one. Nice thinking outside the box, but that kind of thinking around here should be kept to yourself.

lbwilliams44 said:

I personally like the idea, I don't think you are ruining a car. I have been running the idea through my head recently of having a non-turbo AWD car, just getting a nice set of cams, lightweght pistons/flywheel/everything, and high compression. Jus having a really efficient set up.

So in theory it should work, you might have some fun reprogramming everything and re-wiring. But I say if you have the cash and the time go for it. People said putting a 6g73 in a GSX was ruining it once too, turns out its just cool.

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yea i mean there is one sitting in a back yard around where im at with no motor or trans dude is gonna scrap it soon if noone buys it and he only wants 200 bux and its pretty damn nice of a shell too. and on the second note i know someone with a non turbo engine that would be willing to part iwth for cheap. as goes for the rest of the customizing it can take years for all i care i just think it would be cool in the end. also it dont need much power as i wont be racing it more like just driving it around and testing out the awd every now and then on some dirt . i am glad u are with me on this one though. thanks for the reply

96' Eclipse GS said:

It is possible, as anything is possible with deep pockets. Reality it could be done with the right knowlegde, but I personally would not, just not my thing. For the record, there are not to many people on the site that are open to trying new things.

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ok thank you for the advice just thought id try dsmtuners since well its DSMTUNERS haha again thanks

It's better to put a 1.8liter from 1990 laser, I think 92 hp at the crank and 50 to the wheel is a great idea, that will for sure confuse the S$@t out of everyone, especially when you are going up the hill....!

Not saying your idea is bad, I think it's just pointless to spent crazy amount of money on something pointless, people might get confused but they will also laugh at you.

How is the process any different than swapping a turbo 6 bolt in it?

Practical? No but it would work. Its still a 4g63 and no different then any other 1g 6/7 bolt swap on a 2g. They have 2g NA 4g63s in europe, but I am sure they are only FWD.

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Practical? No but it would work. Its still a 4g63 and no different then any other 1g 6/7 bolt swap on a 2g. They have 2g NA 4g63s in europe, but I am sure they are only FWD.

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yes the european ones are fwd.

reddragon1 said:

How is the process any different than swapping a turbo 6 bolt in it?

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The part where you actually become slower than a civic. If you want NA AWD then at least put in a 4g64 with high compression wiseco's and eagle rods. Then later on down the road slap a 16g or holset on there and you'll have one mean machine.

You want a non Turbo Awd 4g63 get the gallant Gsx. Vr4 with no turbo!

u want a NA awd?? Wire your wastegate wide open and take the hot side compressor wheel completely off. There ya go: naturally aspirated awd .
Congrats btw, ive lurked here for almost 4 yrs and you may have just claimed "dumbest ####ing thread ever". Its quite a title, i believe the owner of the s ite presents you with a trophy of some sort iirc

I had to plumb the MAF to the TB on my 94 AWD to limp it home NT AWD style . Ran great to be honest.

The reason I did it was because the turbine shaft on my freshly built turbo is bent and I needed to get my car home. HDR PVC piping and a few rubber pipe couplers and a rag stuffed in the inlet and outlet of the intercooler and a free spinning tornado warning siren sounding turbo and I was on my way home.

7.8:1 turbo pistons, evo 560cc injectors, 2g MAF.

I have a new turbo waiting along with other parts. I figured I would share that my full weight talon running NA on turbo pistons and bigger injectors ran good. I just have not had the time to install any of these yet because I'm busy watching my daughter all day and when Kayla don't work it's raining out or someone needs my help on there stuff.

It's not a totally off the wall idea. I've considered AWD swapping my Spyder GS when it comes time for a trans rebuild. The 2.4 would have enough power to make it work but with the reliability of an NA car. The FWD is useless here in Colorado.

Not everything has to be a boosted drag car to be a good idea.

It will move. Its not like if we are always in boost, but it will move like a 3 cyl metro i believe .. j/k

Vladimir said:

It's better to put a 1.8liter from 1990 laser, I think 92 hp at the crank and 50 to the wheel is a great idea, that will for sure confuse the S$@t out of everyone, especially when you are going up the hill....!
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^^I have one of those hahaha 330000km and still runs like a watch!

Doesn't the 420a have higher compression than a NA 4g63? I know the 1Gs are higher comp but is it more? And if not, um... Yeah... Also, couldn't you just take the turbo off your 2g?

PuNkShoO said:

Doesn't the 420a have higher compression than a NA 4g63? I know the 1Gs are higher comp but is it more? And if not, um... Yeah... Also, couldn't you just take the turbo off your 2g?

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He isn't talking about using a 420a. He is talking about running a non turbo 4g63 in a awd car.

Travisgsx96 said:

have fun with that it would take tons of custom work and those motors dont prosuce enought power to even need awd

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The only thing that you might have to fabricate is an intake pipe. A non turbo 4g63 engine bolts up just the same as a turbo 4g63.

As a learning exercise and the fact that it sounds like the shell and motor are practically free knock yourself out. As a project all by itself I don't know why you would do it. There are no gotchas to doing what you propose. Motor and engine systems don't know the turbo isn't there.

if you want a 2g awd non turbo, buy a 2g turbo car and take turbo off. that would be simple. but y?