Hey guys i was searching for awhile but couldnt find a good thread on my specific question

Im doing abuild right now and replacing myspeakers while im down there in my interior and all. its a very small part of what i care about in my car because im looking for power so i dont need anything crazy

i ripped out my door and rear speakers because there all blown and just want to get new one that i can run off my stock amp i also have a pioneir headunit but couldnt find what watt or rms to get just a clean sound out of my sound system

if i missed the thread this was disscussed in a link to it would be great also thanks

I always run pioneers for my component speakers. Pretty cheap and hold up great to the abuse I put the through.

I too run Pioneer speakers. Good quality and price.

I just replaced the speakers in my girls avenger with aftermarket ones.I got them from ebay,I bought two sets.I got a set of pioneers and a set of some off brand shipped for probbaly 50 bux.The aftermarkets sounded awsome with the stock amp.Untill I came across a wiring problem.The speakers cut out,the bass does not sound right.So I'm going to have to rewire them and see if it's the amp or just wiring.


Pioneers are good speakers,but there are many companies that make good speakers now a days.

what watt and rms are the speakers your running?

Go to walmart.com. They have some really good deals on sony, and pioneer.

Match your speakers to what your head unit puts out or greater in watts RMS @ whatever ohms. The speakers can be rated to handle more power, it doesn't mean they will be quieter.

I run the wal-mart carried Sony Xplod speakers and headunits in all my DSMs, I'm happy with the sound.

I have a set of alpine speakers and they are great. A little up there in price but well worth it.

I am running Infinity Kappa Components with I believe a 80 RMS rating @4ohms. I would run them with an amp but a good head unit should be fine.

Most basic headunits put out 15-20 watts per channel. If you run with a 50 watt/channel RMS speaker (which a lot of 6.5's are) you'll be fine. Most, if not all 6x9's can take plenty of power, so buy whatever fits your price range. Underpowering your speakers isn't advised, but you can't avoid that when you're basically running off the headunit.

I was always happy with amplified 6.5 components up front and 6x9's in the back - plenty of sound for my little 2G.

More then likely your aftermarket Pioneer head unit probably puts out more true power then the stock amp does. I don't recall the so called specs on our stock amps, but most of the time older OEM audio stuff was basically junk.

Most of your typical aftermarket speakers will be fine. There will be higher end ones that will be too difficult to drive properly with what you have, but basically all the more budget friendly speakers will be fine.

Best advise is go out & listen to a bunch of different speakers & you pick the ones you personally like. Everyone hears differently so what someone else thinks is the best speakers ever, you may think sounds like crap. Price also doesn't always dictate how good a speaker sounds.

If you want, one of the best mods you can do for audio is put some sound deadening around the speakers. Are cars are rattle traps & without any sound deadening your wasting your money. Don't need to go crazy either, a little will make a huge difference & is defently worth the pound or two in weight it ads.

Does anyone happen to know the stock amps power output?

It has tons of wires in it's harness, that are not really needed at all.But I don't feel like getting a new 200w amp and running all new wires.

Over 100watts RMS per door over here.

I need more. Maybe I'll be content with 200watts RMS per side.

Bud92gsx said:

Does anyone happen to know the stock amps power output?

It has tons of wires in it's harness, that are not really needed at all.But I don't feel like getting a new 200w amp and running all new wires.

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Something like 15watts.

are you serious..I can push more than 15 watts,well I had a joke for it.But I can't seem to finish it.Anyone care to help.

Polk Audio for life! My friend has kicker in his sounds good to. But a little pricey.

I've ran MTX speakers for quite a while. The clarity for the price fits the eclipse well. I've always been fond of Focal for my daily driver though.

If you want a good website for audio got to woofersetc.com they have hundreds of brands and name brands and super great prices. I got a 1500watt amp for 99dollars it's top notch for great prices I recommend it. I got all my audio from them for the past 7years. No one beats em. Lol

If you are just looking for a upgrade from OEM without really changing anything but the speakers just about any coaxial speaker will work fine and be a upgrade from OEM.


Now the issue about blowing speakers due to underpowering and amps clipping.

The watts for a speaker is a thermal rating, its what the coils can handle before they burn out and short. So under powering them will not hurt at all.

The issue with clipping is sending too strong of a signal to the amp or turning the amp gain too high. Thats what causes clipping, now what happens a lot of times is people turn up the gains on lower power amps trying to push higher rated speakers. Its not the speakers causing the clip, its the operator.

All the amp "sees" from a speaker is the load the coil produces, measured in ohms.

Personally, I like to run my amps with some “head room”, I will use a amp that has a higher RMS than the speakers RMS. I just keep my gains set low to prevent overloading the speaker and I usually dont go the lowest resistance possible. Keeping a lower gain setting and higher ohm loads keeps the amp “happy”, it runs cooler and has a better THD (Total Harmonic Distortion)

Sack and Daren...chill out fellas. We're all friends here Besides, your discussion is WAY beyond what the OP is looking for.

Personally, I never understood why underpowering a speaker was supposedly bad for it, but guys much smarter than me regarding audio told me it was, so I ran with it.

The long and short of it is try to match up your speaker with your power source on an RMS basis. Now, most headunits can't or don't supply 50w/channel, so unless you are running an aftermarket amp, just go with whatever speakers fit your budget. I would personally advocate removing the stock amp and running wire directly from the headunit to the speakers. But that is a lengthy process and probably not necessary here.

Sounded deadening is also good advice. You can make crappy speakers sound real nice by making sure the comparment housing the speakers is sealed and deadened as much as possible. Now with doors and the location of the 6x9s in a 2G Eclipse, completely deadening all the vibrations or making the compartment tight is not possible. So adding a little deadener directly behind the speaker and on the pannel where the speaker is mounted is good enough. You'll loose most of the vibration and some of the resonance.

Good luck!

95gstSwish said:

i ripped out my door and rear speakers because there all blown and just want to get new one that i can run off my stock amp i also have a pioneir headunit but couldnt find what watt or rms to get just a clean sound out of my sound system

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So which factory radio do you have? I can't remember if the Infinity Amp and speakers was an option in 95. Is there a amp under the passenger seat?

As a few people have said, the most important factor is do you like the sound.

One trick with just replacing the factory speakers is to get high efficiency speakers to make the most out of the minimal power available. The manufacture might call it sensitivity. The higher the number the louder the speakers will be for the same power.

A lot of aftermarket speakers might be in the 89dB range, which is lower than the stock speakers were and will require more power. Higher power ratings often mask lower sensitivity ratings and since you don't have lots of power per channel to burn avoid them.

To give much more specific advice requires knowing which factory system is in their now.

im running mtx in the doors and rockfords in the back, both are really good speakers. for cheap/good speakers check out cadence. ive head really good luck with all of thier products and for the price they sound amazing. audiosavings or sonicelectronics have good deals

steve said:

So which factory radio do you have? I can't remember if the Infinity Amp and speakers was an option in 95. Is there a amp under the passenger seat?

As a few people have said, the most important factor is do you like the sound.

One trick with just replacing the factory speakers is to get high efficiency speakers to make the most out of the minimal power available. The manufacture might call it sensitivity. The higher the number the louder the speakers will be for the same power.

A lot of aftermarket speakers might be in the 89dB range, which is lower than the stock speakers were and will require more power. Higher power ratings often mask lower sensitivity ratings and since you don't have lots of power per channel to burn avoid them.

To give much more specific advice requires knowing which factory system is in their now.

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Yep it was an option my 95 GST has an infinity amp under the seat

steve said:

So which factory radio do you have? I can't remember if the Infinity Amp and speakers was an option in 95. Is there a amp under the passenger seat?

As a few people have said, the most important factor is do you like the sound.

One trick with just replacing the factory speakers is to get high efficiency speakers to make the most out of the minimal power available. The manufacture might call it sensitivity. The higher the number the louder the speakers will be for the same power.

A lot of aftermarket speakers might be in the 89dB range, which is lower than the stock speakers were and will require more power. Higher power ratings often mask lower sensitivity ratings and since you don't have lots of power per channel to burn avoid them.

To give much more specific advice requires knowing which factory system is in their now.

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Steve is dead on, the higher the sensitivity the more efficient the speaker is. The rating is usually in dB at 1 watt. So the higher the dB per watt the louder it will be at the given power.

In addition, for every 3dB increase the output is twice as loud. So a speaker rated at 83 dB is twice as loud as one rated at 80 dB at the same power rating.


So what is your budget for speakers?

Seriously, the moderators needed to come in here and censor out a technical discussion that is on topic with "speakers?" How mature.