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Which Turbo Should I Get [merged] What Turbo

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Ludachris

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Which turbo will be sufficient for consistent 11 second times? I've recently decided on a big 16g, but will that be big enough to run 11s with supporting mods and decent tuning? Remember, this is for a budget street car, so any one purchase over $1k is tough. A big 16g will run about $700-900, which is about $300-400 less than the larger alternatives.

Of course, I'll need lots of practice to run these times, but, I just want to make sure that it's possible before the money is spent.
 
I was not looking for a new turbo, I was looking for a good used one, paying that much will just kill my budget, so I will have a big turbo.....and nothing else. I jsut want something more than my 13g, and big enough so I can reach my power goals down the line with out having to upgrade a turbo again (i was originally thinking big 16g, but that wont work) My overall a budget is about 2k, and that includes my head, fuel and turbo.

400$?... Gtp38, uses t3/t4 bearings if you want to save even more money and rebuild one

I was always unsure of how much it would cost to rebuild a turbo, so I tried to stay away from ones that need it. Would it be more cost efficiant to buy a bad turbo and rebuild it?
 
That sounds very interesting. Will definitely want to see what it is, I don't think FP shows it on their web site. Is it external wastegate only? Or did you have a choice between external or internal?

No, FP does not show it on their site. And I think you do have a choice between external or internal. You also have a choice of dsm housing or T3 housing.
 
... You also have a choice of dsm housing or T3 housing.

Well now I'm getting excited! I will have to call and check into this, since my nice T3 tubular manifold is just sitting around in a box.

It would be really cool, when you get it unpacked, if you could get a rough measurement across the compressor housing with a tape measure or whatever, in the same direction as this pic that shows 7" across a Borg Warner housing. I would like to have a lot of clearance to the radiator, so I'm interested in this dimension.

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If you have the tools it's cheap to rebuild, if not we have plenty of people on the site to rebuild them for you. Just look for a bad one that isn't locked up or have damaged fins.
 
i have been researching on turbos and have came to a decision to try to run a hx35 but am also on a budget so i was thinking of rebuilding my 16g. what kind of power can i expect out of the 16g. i would like to break 400 if not 450. I have seen the time sheets for people running 16g's but not many hp reports. the rest of my build includes greddy fmic, 6bolt motor, gsc s2 cams, 2g mas, dsm link, 1000cc injectors, all hard piped intake. i am at war with someone at work with a subaru sti because i hate those cars so i am hoping to be able to beat him when its all said and done.

any help is appreciated thanks
 
While the 16g can be pushed pretty hard, 400-450hp is a bit out of the range of a 16g. I'm more than sure it can be done (look at how far the 14b has come) but if it's a daily driver I would go with something that can make that power much more efficiently. Perhaps Holset HX35 or something in that range?
 
I know it will be easier with the hx35 although, I already have a 16g that came with the car. I have been bouncing back and forth. I know the sti has plans of upgrading as well since he just blew his stoock motor. We seem to be talking about some what of the same upgrades. He is getting 272 kelford cams and a 30r style turbo as far as I know. so I can only assume Ill have to keep my eyes open for a cheap hx35 and get the bep housing. where can I pick up a holset at for a good price and what should I watch out for. Also should I get internal wastegate? This is what i see the most of.

Also are 1000cc injectors enough for pump gas?
 
go with the hx 35 but go to a t3 the bep will choke the turbo with the t3 hotside you will make more hp per psi and 1000 cc should get you to 500whp :rocks:
 
Where are you planning on getting your HX-35 turbo from? Couldn't you just find one from a Ram truck and then rebuild or just fix it up so that it runs better? That might help with the budget that your on. And personally, I know a couple guys in my town who have Evo III 16G's running just over 400, so it is possible.
 
A 16g will start to choke at 400, maybe with the aide of e-85 but more than likely not.
Have you looked into the 68hta? Wayyyyyy more pricey than the HX series, but it'll keep things in the bay cleaner looking, and less things to upgrade.
 
I am currently running FP's E316g, and it's all you really need. Although it's cool to have 400++ hp, in my opinion, the extra 40-50 hp doesn't make up for the quick-on power of the e316- especially when considering how much you can buy them for used. Like on RRE's website, it's all that 99% of dsmers need.
 
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Is the spool time that much different between the hx35 and the 16g? I thought the spool on the hx35 was 3800rpm. Not sure on the 16g. From what I read I thought they were close in keeping spool time down with little lag.
 
Hey everyone I'm doing a simple upgrades to my car and I need help on what type of turbo to go with. The car will be used for street racing and drag racing. My mods are 255hp fuel pump, full 3 inch exhaust, complete front mount intercooler kit with 2.5 piping, 750cc injectors, tubular manifold, ecm link, fuel pressure regulator. My HP range I want to be in, is between 300-400.

I would appreciate the feed back, thanks.
 
The EvoIII 16G would be a nice turbo for your setup. You might not get 400 out of it but it will get you close. Or something like the 68HTA it's freaking expensive though. You could even get a 20g. So many options but for your current setup/goals you should be happy with either of those :rocks:.
 
This has been a topic that has been beaten to death over and over and over... not to be mean but, Did you at all search through the forums on this topic? Your going to anger alot of people with this question. Im sure tons of people are going to answer with "use the search!". Are you running the stock t25 with 750cc injectors?? if so that is big time over kill... for a 300-400 range you could even get away with a 16g and 550cc injectors. Take some time and go through past threads, I am sure youll find the answers you are looking for.
 
I'm not running the 750 as yet I'm still running stock injectors. This is what I'm doing to my car and all I'm looking for is some feed back. The past post is not going to help me with my setup on what I have and what I want to achieve.
 
^ He's running ECMLink, so he can run any size injectors he wants without any issues.. Personally I'm running 1250's on my stock IX turbo just so I don't have to upgrade later on, which is a good idea, no point in buying and installing injectors everytime you want to upgrade..

Put a 16G turbo on your car, go read some dyno threads, get used to the power.. Oh.. and for the love of god, quit street racing...
 
I love my evoIII 16g, make sure you get a real one and not a knockoff. For your horsepower goals its right on. Not quite 400, but with enough fuel and supporting mods you will get close. I had mine ported when I bought it brand new, and it spools fast and holds 20 psi no problem. Its a great street turbo, and your injectors would be spot on for it. I am running 680's and staying under 80% when running 22-24 psi. I would certainly look in to ecmlink to tune with if you want to make the most of it as well. Just my 2 cents.
 
+50 million on the reading past threads and the 16g. An eIII 16g is a perfect turbo for in between 250whp and 400-450 whp (depending on the tune and supporting mods). Welcome to tuners!
 
big 16g, 750s, and proper tuning will go a long way...youll definately be happy with that.

And search. the setup you want is the same one hundreds of people have already asked about and posted on here numerous times. i dont mind answering the same question over and over again but some people do.
 
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