Not quite sure which dowel you are referring to.

In my experience just remove the torque converter, the drive plate, and the spacer. Install flywheel, and clutch. And you should be good to go!

Swapped 2 auto motors into a 5 speed and never had any other issues.

TjPhillips36 said:

Not quite sure which dowel you are referring to.

In my experience just remove the torque converter, the drive plate, and the spacer. Install flywheel, and clutch. And you should be good to go!

Swapped 2 auto motors into a 5 speed and never had any other issues.

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I have done the same also a few times no problems.

In my other thread i posted someone said i needed a dowel pin.

IT will bolt in just fine. You will have to remove the torque converter spacer that is in the end of the crankshaft. You will also have to install a dowel in the crank and bolt your starter plate and flywheel from the 5 speed to it.

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We started this project, but im just double checking everything.

I didn't need any dowel pins. All went real smooth.

This is the dowel pin to align the flywheel to the crank
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It *can* be done without the dowel, but I would get it just to be safe. The thing only cost's $4.

the pins arent in the same spot that make the engine line up with the tranny

I have a 97 JDM Galant turbo engine that was automatic in my 95 GSX all i did was remove the spacer and drive plate and the flywheel bolted right up

nicks tsi said:

the pins arent in the same spot that make the engine line up with the tranny

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Incorrect. Quit posting things that you don't know about. The dowels are in the exact same spot.

^ What he said. The motors are exactly the same weather it being an auto or manual. The difference is the torque converter/spacer and the flywheel/clutch.

Differen't starter motor as well.

TSITurbo95 said:

^ What he said. The motors are exactly the same weather it being an auto or manual. The difference is the torque converter/spacer and the flywheel/clutch.

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The motors are also balanced with the flywheel which is why the dowel pin is there on the manual cars, to ensure it gets installed in the same orientation every time. This may not cause any noticeable or appreciable wear on the engine, but who knows, it might. As others have said before though, it will bolt together without it.

Josh

jmelocik said:

The motors are also balanced with the flywheel which is why the dowel pin is there on the manual cars, to ensure it gets installed in the same orientation every time. This may not cause any noticeable or appreciable wear on the engine, but who knows, it might. As others have said before though, it will bolt together without it.

Josh

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This is not correct. The flywheel is balanced separately from the engine. They balance the crank, than balance the rods and pistons, than the flywheel. This is an internally balanced engine. The flywheel and balancer have no effect on the overall balance of the the engine. The dowell is just to secure the flywheel in a fixed spot. The bolts aren't a tight fit in the bolt holes so the flywheel over time can move on the end of the crank and cause the bolts to work their way loose.

I had to remove the pilot bushing out of the end of the crankshaft I used to build mine because it was out of an auto. No big deal. I filled it full of grease and used a punch that fits perfectly in the bushing to push it back out. Other than that I had no problems.

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This is not correct. The flywheel is balanced separately from the engine. They balance the crank, than balance the rods and pistons, than the flywheel. This is an internally balanced engine. The flywheel and balancer have no effect on the overall balance of the the engine. The dowell is just to secure the flywheel in a fixed spot. The bolts aren't a tight fit in the bolt holes so the flywheel over time can move on the end of the crank and cause the bolts to work their way loose.

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You are correct, they are internally balanced, the flywheel is also balanced and designed from the factory to be installed in a given position to aid in harmonic dampening. I will find you the reference that I am pulling this from and post it for everyone. If the dowel is just to secure the flywheel in a fixed spot why did Mitsubishi go away from it in the later 4G63 and sirius series of motors but still use the same flywheel bolt tolerance but have an offset bolt to only allow the flywheel to be installed in one orientation and have all the bolts go in?

Josh