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duggan1 · Mar 11, 2012

hey all been looking at buying a gsx for quite a few years now , and in about 5 days ill be going to pick one up if it runs right .

just wanted to hear some feed back on the car i plan on buying from the experts so i know what im getting into

its a 95 gsx with 144,000 k on it mods on it include ..

414awhp at 25psi
evo III turbo ported/clipped/flapped 34mm
greddy 3 row FMIC
650cc injectors
safc II
HKS 264 cams
3 in stainless steel ceramic coated Apexi exhaust
355mm 14inch 4 piston Rotora big brake kit
authentic 18in motegi's to clear brakes
Koni shocks/H&R springs
3inch kooks racing cat/test pipe included
Brian Crower double valve springs/retainers
Supertech valve guides

Car is tuned to run on 94 Octane

Leather int, sunroof, power options

Consistent 1.23-1.28 at mosport & 11.7-11.9 at 121-124 at cayuga on street tires "

quote for quote from the sellers add , he didnt have it tuned , the owner previous had it tuned and all

any input is appreciated thanks guys :coy:

Nicklepage1010 · Mar 11, 2012

I personally wouldnt buy someone elses project unless i know everything was done right. Any receipts with the car?

Whats the seller asking?

duggan1 · Mar 11, 2012

hes asking 5g im going to test drive it before anything , give a good look to my best extent

SupremeDsm · Mar 11, 2012

Make sure you look for rust. You dont wanna pay for just a good running car because if its falling apart due to rust then you will really regret it. Check underneath and in the rear quarter panels at the bottom wheel well for rust. Also make sure you check your strut towers for any rust signs.

rvaughn · Mar 11, 2012

414 awhp on pump gas with an evo 3? That sends flags up for me, I don't think there is anyone who has hit that kind of whp with that turbo on pump gas. Buyer beware in my opinion, but hell what do I know.

gofer · Mar 11, 2012

Yea, the hp claim doesn't match the mods at all especially with an SAFC to tune.

GoCanes777 · Mar 11, 2012

^ +1 Just a point from experience don't buy someone elses headache look for a stock car best bet

Or if he has all the paper work and can have someone speak up for there work then good ahead but thats highly unlikely

rcarbajal4 · Mar 11, 2012

400whp+ with 650's? I'm not liking any of this

dsm92gsx · Mar 11, 2012

definitely sounds a little off. as said I would check the receipts and work done. any proof of numbers?

Anubis_4_99 · Mar 11, 2012

RocCitySlayer · Mar 11, 2012

At the dog. But yea like everybody else is saying, 414awhp with 650 injectors and and evo 3? :confused:

I was expecting to see that with my setup

4Lurker4 · Mar 11, 2012

I saw that add on kijiji.ca myself a little while back, looked bogus, which usually leads me to believe it's bough cheap from one owner and then embellished by the second owner that doesn't know too much about it to sell it for more. I'm not saying don't check it out, but make sure to do the field work to make sure nothing else is being made-up

duggan1 · Mar 12, 2012

yeah the hp claim was a little fishey to me , im going to check it out today if it runs and looks good ill probably buy it in a few days, even if it dosent run like a 400 hp machine that dosent bother me can always use a project car anywho

thanks for the input guys

dsmtnr · Mar 12, 2012

IMO, I'd stay clear, with that kind of money you can find a near stock one and build it your way. Its always a bad idea getting into somebody else's project.

4Lurker4 · Mar 12, 2012

dsmtnr said:
IMO, I'd stay clear, with that kind of money you can find a near stock one and build it your way. Its always a bad idea getting into somebody else's project.

He's also in Canada, Ontario; that's the usual rate for these cars. Cheaper and you get a money pit that doesn't run or is about to die.

Aameiel · Mar 12, 2012

I would say take it to a shop and have it looked over or bring someone with you.

FLASH1970 · Mar 12, 2012

414awhp on 650's... doubt it. red flag. 25psi of boost on 650's... big red flag. 650's don't flow enough to keep AFR's safe at 25psi from a 16g. That car probably has so much detonation it's crazy. I'd get a bore scope and look at the top of the pistons. If they are all pitted I would walk away. Do that along with compression test, check turbo shaft play, ball joints, tie rods, rust...

duggan1 · Mar 12, 2012

so when to check it out the only problem with it is that the rpm's drop on the car when coming to a stop .. said he thinks its just the idle is to low and the set screw in the throttle body is stripped , i can get the screw out no problem .. any ideas guys , thinking of throwing 4700 at him to take it or leave it ..

thanks again guys

98mitsgs · Mar 12, 2012

duggan1 said:
so when to check it out the only problem with it is that the rpm's drop on the car when coming to a stop .. said he thinks its just the idle is to low and the set screw in the throttle body is stripped , i can get the screw out no problem .. any ideas guys , thinking of throwing 4700 at him to take it or leave it ..

thanks again guys

Is the BOV recirculated?

jdxnc · Mar 12, 2012

Made up numbers on mild mods, $5k is way too much even in Canada unless the shell is extraordinarily clean, and even then its iffy.

I would be checking the crank for play before making any sort of deal.

duggan1 · Mar 12, 2012

98mitsgs said:
Is the BOV recirculated?

it is now its an after market one didnt see what kind tho , said it was vent to atmosphere but changed it back , he said its idling at around 400rpm or so ...

-Boosty- · Mar 15, 2012

so did u buy this thing? Because just about everyone on this post said walk away from it, and be patient for the right one to come along, then u said u were gonna offer him 4700. I see nothing about an a/f gauge, nothing about a fuel pump or rewire. Nothing about an afpr, fmic, etc....the supporting mods just arent there to reach even 300 hp in my mind, without the pump and rewire u can kiss those sweet little internals goodbye at 16psi, let alone 25. LISTEN to the majority and let that one pass, you could buy one with a blown motor for a few grand, and buy a nicely built one for 3 and be right where you'd be with that one.

dsm92gsx · Mar 15, 2012

-Boosty- said:
so did u buy this thing? Because just about everyone on this post said walk away from it, and be patient for the right one to come along, then u said u were gonna offer him 4700. I see nothing about an a/f gauge, nothing about a fuel pump or rewire. Nothing about an afpr, fmic, etc....the supporting mods just arent there to reach even 300 hp in my mind, without the pump and rewire u can kiss those sweet little internals goodbye at 16psi, let alone 25. LISTEN to the majority and let that one pass, you could buy one with a blown motor for a few grand, and buy a nicely built one for 3 and be right where you'd be with that one.

I would have to completely agree with this. To the OP, I would either get the exact info from the car and a legit price or walk and find another dsm. Either way best of luck which ever way you go.

SeeCoty'sNuts · Mar 15, 2012

I personally would not give that much for a 95 with that many miles, but if your lookin to spend some money, you can always pull the ingine out and re-do everything. I bought a 97 GST with what they said was a "Re-built" 4g63t.. when all they did was clean it and roll the miles back on it.. i only gave 1500[ but that's beside the fact.

dsm92gsx · Mar 15, 2012

duggan1 said:
so when to check it out the only problem with it is that the rpm's drop on the car when coming to a stop .. said he thinks its just the idle is to low and the set screw in the throttle body is stripped , i can get the screw out no problem .. any ideas guys , thinking of throwing 4700 at him to take it or leave it ..

thanks again guys

its possible that the screw needs to be adjusted or replaced. It was around $8 for me to replace from Mitsubishi but mine idled too high around 2k-2500 rpm's.

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