jtmcinder said:

I'm aware that you like it. They are a pretty color.

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ohmygod hahahaha

This is a good discussion. Continue on.

Leonthefaded said:

If I was buying a show car, that I was only driving maybe to car cruise meetups and car shows, based off color id go wigth the megan racing ez streets. cause they match everything else on my car. But sinced my coilover selection is about ride and performance. I stick with k sports

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I think I'll ignore your statement for the following reasons:

1) The only opinion I asked for to the guy who actually USED the product.

2) You have a red nugget. Enough said.

3) From my understanding both K-sport and Megan racings coil overs aren't that different :
:http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/handling-tech/400337-i-want-see-proof-ksports-teins-d2s-megan-racing-coilovers-sam.html

4) From the people who actually used the product seem satisfied:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/handling-tech/362623-k-sport-pro-vs-megan-racing-coilovers.html

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/handling-tech/348512-ksport-coils-delivering-plenty-dissapointment.html

5) If the vendor offers me a good deal on the Konis/ GC I shoot for them over either k-sport or megan's

Finally last but not least if you have any actual FACTUAL information proving your K-sports are far superior then the megans I'm all ears.

HaveBlue83 said:

yes, you are correct, i just meant to the N/T guys that wanna slam, "roll hard" will see megan/ks/bc others may have pillowball adj. they will think "I can make any camber angle I want" instead of "i can make the shock perform optimally".
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^^^ugh I dont think that thought is exclusive to the N/T guys

I don't know of any vendor who will assemble a Koni/GC/HyperCo system for you; not even RRE ever did this. Dennis Grant used to do it and he was on here the other day, so maybe he could be talked into doing it again. He can probably source pillowballs, too, plus he'd use 2.25" springs and Koni sleeves, instead of 2.5" springs and GC sleeves, which is slightly better, due to lower weight. More generally - and people who have been around a while better sit down for this - if anyone would put this system together right, it would be Dennis. Why doesn't someone (other than me; see previous dashed-out comment) ask him?

wow! so many different opinions. now im really confused! . I mean i just want a solid coilover for street use that will go low and not be a super harsh ride. I would go with tein flex or JIC but im not trying to spend over $1000. I have tein ss coilovers on my other car with about a 3 inch drop and love them. But i didnt like that you have to use oem top hats with them.

So that brought me to either ksport, d2, megan ss, bc, and dgr. I guess according to some of you these are all crap. And to others of you they are all fine. Guess im back where i started .

jtmcinder said:

I don't know of any vendor who will assemble a Koni/GC/HyperCo system for you; not even RRE ever did this. Dennis Grant used to do it and he was on here the other day, so maybe he could be talked into doing it again. He can probably source pillowballs, too, plus he'd use 2.25" springs and Koni sleeves, instead of 2.5" springs and GC sleeves, which is slightly better, due to lower weight. More generally - and people who have been around a while better sit down for this - if anyone would put this system together right, it would be Dennis. Why doesn't someone (other than me; see previous dashed-out comment) ask him?

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who was this comment directed toward? Was it me?

coupe_nasty said:

So that brought me to either ksport, d2, megan ss, bc, and dgr. I guess according to some of you these are all crap. And to others of you they are all fine. Guess im back where i started .

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It's because they're all essentially the same. D2 and BC come out of the same place, Megan and K-sport out of another (thus the hilarity in Leon's comment), etc.

If you're not shooting for 2-3k, gamble on the prefabs and hope your set works for you, or do a GC setup.

If you won't put it together yourself and won't go over $1000 and this is mostly for daily driving, then, with great hesitation, I'll whisper Tanabe Sustec Pro and then probably deny that I ever said it. Why? Because at the low end I prefer a low-pressure twin-tube and the springs are quite soft. It will not help the handling much at all, but will allow you to lower the car and will probably ride fine.

With regard to me later denying this half-hearted endorsement, the search-savvy will note that this isn't the first time that I've said this: http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/handling-tech/421335-good-buy-tanabe-coilovers.html

bmoha7321 said:

Is Far North still offering those built Konis with pillow ball uppers?

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Nope, they never did as far as I'm aware. DG only sold one set of them. But he put the plans up on his site for anyone who wants to build them.
Autocross.dsm.org - Build Your Own Konis

jcart953 said:

who was this comment directed toward? Was it me?

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It was really aimed at anyone and everyone who would like to see a good, low-cost option for 2Gs. If you could talk Dennis into selling these set-ups again - even if he only sold one set before - then it would be a huge leap forward over anything else for under $2k.

Now stop making me say nice things about him. It's causing me real pain.

This car is not a daily driver. Also, if Dennis is so knowledgeable about suspension, then whats wrong with getting his dgr coilovers?

DGR is not, in any way, affiliated with Dennis.

LandoAWD said:

DGR is not, in any way, affiliated with Dennis.

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oh my bad. i was under the impression that it was.

snowborder714 said:

Autocross.dsm.org - Build Your Own Konis

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With the few nice things said, I crack up whenever I read that bit on that page that says that no shop can duplicate his set-up and sell it other than Magnus, as if that would carry any weight in any court, especially when a careful search of this site will find you many posts that describe roughly the same set-up with no such silly warnings.

More seriously, the two advantages of basing the set-up on GC sleeves and 2.5" springs over Koni sleeves and 2.25" springs are (a) you don't have to cut a new groove in the shock and (b) 2.5" springs are slightly easier to find a wide variety of rates. But, if you're will to do the small amount of extra work (and risk the legal wrath of a combat veteran), then copy Dennis' set-up, instead.

coupe_nasty said:

This car is not a daily driver.

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Then you are SOL. You have to built it yourself, get someone to build it for you, or spend at least $2k. I'm sorry, but that's the way it is.

Could be worse. You could have an Evo X GSR, as I do, for which there are no good aftermarket shocks for running in Stock classes. You either buy the Bilsteins off an MR and have them revalved or you run the OE KYBs. And lemme tell ya, the only time I ever wanna use anything with a K and a Y in the name is when I'm .... bleeeeeeeep ing ... my ... bleeeeeeeeep.

coupe_nasty said:

oh my bad. i was under the impression that it was.

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That's why we research, THEN speak.

jtmcinder said:

And lemme tell ya, the only time I ever wanna use anything with a K and a Y in the name is when I'm .... bleeeeeeeep ing ... my ... bleeeeeeeeep.

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I'll take "diddling" and "butthole" for 100...

It's funny. If you, as a Mod, were to split this thread into two pieces, sorting the posts, you could create either the worst or the best thread we've had in Handling for a few months. But please don't. I kind of like having both sides all in one place.

Oh, and you're out 100.

edit: I just noticed that this is in Newbies. Don't even dream of "fixing" it, then. It's perfect.

Lmao.

Hey if your not racing competitively then just go k-sport/d2. If your using the car for fun you should be fine. I agree they are not the best coil-overs you can buy but they will outperform your stock setup. Its hard to ask for an opinion on this forum, some members here are hardcore racers, whether it be autocross, drag or drift. Others on here, like myself are just enjoying the pleasure of upgrading there car parts and enjoying the ride. So sometime you have to be specific on this forum or you will leave more confused then you came in.

So if your car is just for fun go with any of those coils. If not save your money and get a good solid setup.

chinola69 said:

Hey if your not racing competitively then just go k-sport/d2. If your using the car for fun you should be fine. I agree they are not the best coil-overs you can buy but they will outperform your stock setup.

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In the spirit of the above: I will sell the OP a rear-view mirror for $1200 that outperforms the OE mirror. Now, you might read that and say to yourself "self, paying $1200 for something that isn't that much better than stock - although it is more adjustable and comes in a pretty color - doesn't sound like a good use of my money," but I would counter by reminding you - again, in the spirit of the above - that it is definitely better than stock.

jtmcinder said:

In the spirit of the above: I will sell the OP a rear-view mirror for $1200 that outperforms the OE mirror. Now, you might read that and say to yourself "self, paying $1200 for something that isn't that much better than stock - although it is more adjustable and comes in a pretty color - doesn't sound like a good use of my money," but I would counter by reminding you - again, in the spirit of the above - that it is definitely better than stock.

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If an OEM rear view mirror cost 200 and an aftermarket rear cost 199 and outperforms its OEM counter part, why would you buy the OEM part?

tiens are my pick thats what im getting this summer

Why is it that I can't shake the following image: first, I see a large group of horses, all laying on the ground; slowly, it becomes clear that they are all dead - that's why they are lying on their sides and that's why they aren't moving; moments later, somehow, I learn or merely intuit that they have all died of thirst; as if repelled by this, my view-point pulls back and I now can see the wider scene; and that's when I learn that these dead-of-thirst horses are laying on the bank of a pristine river. Fade to black.

Freaky, eh?

What do you think about emusa coilovers? They are blue and they are a decent price. Just yanking your chain. Get up horse.

Hey I am not fore buying cheap products for any car, reason why honda guys drive me crazy. I will never understand why someone could be so concerned about the color of there lower control arms or what new color they have tow hooks in. (what are they towing). But some of us cant afford the tein or jic so there are some ok cheaper alternatives. Hey I love buying a good quality product why i waited till I could get my tein flex, I even over paid for a Dejon intake just to support the vendors. Just let the poor guy get the coilovers so hey can have some fun.

jcart953 said:

I2) You have a red nugget. Enough said.

3)Finally last but not least if you have any actual FACTUAL information proving your K-sports are far superior then the megans I'm all ears.

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I have a set of K sport coilovers, use them daily on my wifes EK. They are perfection.