JusMX141 said:

Bullseye Power T04B V-Trim. Popular turbo from about 6-8 years ago.

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i was told it was a 60-1?

bigbrdf250 said:

anybody??? i added a few more questions since my last post. see below

what is the oil return drain size (see below link) or the t3/t4 size. bolt to bolt think it measured 2.5" the cut tube left on it measure 3/4'

its not really a dd (baby seats in most our cars), but i will eventually take it to work every now and then and the occasional street and strip nite we attend.
major diff. of the 60 60-1??
early 03-04?? good or bad?? it has no shaft play
turbonetics? heard kinetic or something of that nature too.

turbo lag on built 2.0

oh yeah one more thing
do i need to upgrade the wastgate currenty a 38mm on 17lb. spring
and my blow off valve greddy rs knock off.

if so what should i be looking to get??

Turbo Flanges & Gaskets, T6 / S400 Oil Drain Flange, RPS-T6ODF | RacePartSolutions.com

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Research what guys are using on their Garrett hybrids as well as results from G60's and other 60-trim T04E turbos that are out there by various manufacturers. This is a turbo ID thread- don't expect answers on setup / potential questions here; your turbo has been ID'ed, the rest is up to you.

1990talontsi said:

i was told it was a 60-1?

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You were told wrong.

JusMX141 said:

You were told wrong.

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what is it comparable to ?
is it even close to a 60 trim,57 trim or a 50 trim?
whats bigger?

V-Trims are T04B-series turbos...a completely different lineup than the T04E series you're referring to.

The compressor map shows it's about as potent as a 20G with better lower-boost efficiency and a more linear torque curve for manageable power. Great for a FWD....takes away that "toggle-switch" hit that TD05H 20G's are known for.

so crappy for awd and not even as good as 50 trim

can someone tell me which turbo this is? car is a 1g tsi awd and is most likely the stock 14b but the guy i bought it from said it had a 16g in it

^^ Definitely a 14b

JusMX141 said:

...your turbo has been ID'ed, the rest is up to you.

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Johnny Carson doesn't have $#¡† on you. There's no app for this.



Way to go man!

cliffkemp said:

Can anyone tell me more about a turbo I just pulled off my car....specs are as follows..

inducer is 60mm
exducer is 76mm
exhaust side...have not measured it yet...sorry

characteristics...spools 18 psi @ 4500 or so on a 2.4L engine
puts down 305 awhp @ 5500 and 309 awtq @ 4500 with v 1.3 maft with 3 inch maf
560 injectors.

gave power to help slightly with figuring out turbo. I have read that it may be a t04 but not the e cause it is 54x76 and not 60x76. The exhaust housing is from an ???SC61 turbo??? and the compressor housing has 60-1 stamped on it. The compressor outlet is 2" and the inlet is the same as the minor at 60mm, basically.

any and all information on this 'hybrid' would be beneficial...thinking of putting it on my talon as the laser just got a green....
thanks for any more information such as flow rate and what have you....

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I guess I was overlooked on my turbo question but, I did find out what it was. It is a hybrid 60-1 Precision turbo with a SC61 turbine section that makes for lots of lag even on my 2.4L engine. The compressor is rated around 600hp at higher boost and the turbine section came off of an SC61 that is rated at 680hp.
It is a 62 trim turbo. Does this sound about right to you Justin?

Justin,

First off, thanks for doing this awesome thread. I think I've spent over 2 hours reading through this and your other turbo questions thread and they're filled with a lot of great info!

Quick history: I bought a blown Slowboy Racing GT-12 from my buddy and I ordered a new CHRA for it, part number 700177-5012. Since then, I've ran it for about five years now with no issues. I've researched the part number and can't come up with an exact match with Garrett's website, but I recall reading it is supposed to be a GT3076R with a hybrid turbine housing.

Doing the math, I bought a blown FP3052 from someone so I can swap the housings.

A couple differences I noticed are that the GT12 compressor cover does not have the 4" inlet with anti-surge ports like the FP3052 does. The FP compressor cover almost fits over the GT12 compressor wheel, but it appears the compressor wheel might be slightly too tall and it's scrubbing. I'm not sure what turbine housing the GT12 has because it looks like SBR ground the #'s off it, but it has the mitsubishi logo stamped into it. I'm guessing its some sort of Mitsu housing machined to accept the Garrett turbine wheel...the only thing is that it is not a v-band connection to the CHRA, but a bolt-style like the 3076R has. The FP turbine housing appears to fit correctly on this turbo but I didn't try to bolt it completely down.

I have another T3 GT3076R sitting on a shelf (part number 700382-5012) so I decided to compare it to the GT12 off my car. It has a 6-blade compressor wheel while the GT12 has a 7-blade.

Here's pics of the GT-12:











Can you tell me what the heck this thing actually is??

cliffkemp said:

I guess I was overlooked on my turbo question but, I did find out what it was. It is a hybrid 60-1 Precision turbo with a SC61 turbine section that makes for lots of lag even on my 2.4L engine. The compressor is rated around 600hp at higher boost and the turbine section came off of an SC61 that is rated at 680hp.
It is a 62 trim turbo. Does this sound about right to you Justin?

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The official measurement of a 60-1 compressor is 59mm/76mm, but it has 7 major blades making it quite difficult to get that first number accurate because you can't easily measure straight across the wheel.

There are two possible turbines that can be used on a Precision SC61- a T352 and a good ol' P-trim. The P-Trim is enormous; the T352 would actually match a 60-1's flow pretty well. To my knowledge Precision never cast a DSM bolt-on turbine housing for anything larger than a T352 turbine.

You can't base horsepower numbers on what the turbine is capable of alone, but then again you can't just throw an enormous compressor wheel on a small turbine and hope to make power/airflow either. A 60-1 compressor peaks just shy of 60 lb/min and has a history of liking lots of boost, but is most-efficient at lower boost levels like 10-18psi according to the map.

If it's using a T352 turbine, the official PTE part number would be 6052; if using a P-Trim turbine it would be a 6076.

Sorry if your question was overlooked.

92 GSR-4 said:

Justin,

First off, thanks for doing this awesome thread. I think I've spent over 2 hours reading through this and your other turbo questions thread and they're filled with a lot of great info!

Quick history: I bought a blown Slowboy Racing GT-12 from my buddy and I ordered a new CHRA for it, part number 700177-5012. Since then, I've ran it for about five years now with no issues. I've researched the part number and can't come up with an exact match with Garrett's website, but I recall reading it is supposed to be a GT3076R with a hybrid turbine housing.

Doing the math, I bought a blown FP3052 from someone so I can swap the housings.

A couple differences I noticed are that the GT12 compressor cover does not have the 4" inlet with anti-surge ports like the FP3052 does. The FP compressor cover almost fits over the GT12 compressor wheel, but it appears the compressor wheel might be slightly too tall and it's scrubbing. I'm not sure what turbine housing the GT12 has because it looks like SBR ground the #'s off it, but it has the mitsubishi logo stamped into it. I'm guessing its some sort of Mitsu housing machined to accept the Garrett turbine wheel...the only thing is that it is not a v-band connection to the CHRA, but a bolt-style like the 3076R has. The FP turbine housing appears to fit correctly on this turbo but I didn't try to bolt it completely down.

I have another T3 GT3076R sitting on a shelf (part number 700382-5012) so I decided to compare it to the GT12 off my car. It has a 6-blade compressor wheel while the GT12 has a 7-blade.

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That compressor wheel isn't used any more, hence the reason you're not able to swap housings with a newer 3052.

To my understanding, the old 7-blade GT30R compressor has been superseded to the new GT3076R 6-blade, the same compressor used on a FP3052. The GT12 you have appears to be basically the same turbo as the old FP3055. I'm guessing some peak airflow from the old design wheel and housing was lost due to the ported cover, which is normal.

Even if the old wheel had an inducer spec that would fit into the new housing, the wheel would likely still rub as I believe the blade contour is different.

I actually own a SBR GT12 and it has the same exact compressor as yours- a good friend of mine once owned a GT13, and I know for a fact that turbo had a 60-1 compressor...so it would be rated slightly higher in airflow production than the GT12.

Other than that, any turbine housing designed for a 3076 will fit this turbo; a 3071 has a slightly smaller exducer.

JusMX141 said:

That compressor wheel isn't used any more, hence the reason you're not able to swap housings with a newer 3052.

To my understanding, the old 7-blade GT30R compressor has been superseded to the new GT3076R 6-blade, the same compressor used on a FP3052. The GT12 you have appears to be basically the same turbo as the old FP3055. I'm guessing some peak airflow from the old design wheel and housing was lost due to the ported cover, which is normal.

I actually own a SBR GT12 and it has the same exact compressor as yours- a good friend of mine once owned a GT13, and I know for a fact that turbo had a 60-1 compressor...so it would be rated slightly higher in airflow production than the GT12.

Other than that, any turbine housing designed for a 3076 will fit this turbo; a 3071 has a slightly smaller exducer.

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Awesome, thanks. I might wind up with the HTA upgrade to this unit since I have a newer 3076R already.



Do you know anything about the DSM bolt-on turbine housing that the GT-12 came with? Why does it have a Mitsubishi stamp on it, yet it isn't a V-band type connection to the Garrett CHRA, rather a bolt-on type? Will it only fit a 30(R) turbine? I will likely try to sell it.

Comparing it to the FP housing, which will flow better/be more efficient? Set-up wise, we all know the FP is beautiful and much better from a fitment standpoint and that's whats important to me right now.

Thanks again.

Was told this is a Bloush Turbo. Looks like an FP green compressor cover though? Let me know what you guys think.

Compressor wheel looks different than my old FP Green.

Here's mine:

It's not an fp green, as that isn't a 50-trim compressor.

My vote goes for FP Red. Im sure Jusmx141 will confirm though.

Colt90tsi said:

My vote goes for FP Red. Im sure Jusmx141 will confirm though.

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Not a red either. Red uses a 60-1 compressor (7 major blades), and a clipped td06h turbine, that turbine isn't clipped.

Looks like it may be a td06 20g, but i can't really judge compressor wheel size from a photo.

OP, measure the compressor wheel. If it's 52.5mm and 68mm it's a 20g.

Definitely a TD06H turbine....but we need a better pic of the compressor or some measurements.

Hey Justin,

I can't seem to find any info online on this turbo. I'd really just like a compressor map, but I don't know if one exists. Can you help?

Hey, just looking for the name of this turbo. I have a feeling it might be a POS ebay one. Also I wanted to know what T3/T4 means

It says turbocharger..It's from ebay...

Ebay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dammittt, oh well when it dies it will be a nice toilet paper holder !

so what do the "T" mean?

The "t" in t04h-3?

a turbo toilet paper holder..That is stupid cool,I kinda want to do that too..

The T I have no idea..It's probably an ebay turbo thing..