Come to think of it. When we got the Himalayan she is a Seal Point (meaning brownish tipped, but not a brown point or a black point) The breeder also had fire point, which are like a raspberry color tip. Mine was 700, the fire point we're 900. So i guess it goes on in all animals. I wouldn't buy a blue pit out of someones back yard. I would save one from there though.

There are some reputable breeders in our country that have great dogs with proven temperment. This is where I would recommend anyone interested in purchasing seeks out, discuss it with your vet.

I have found (for those interested in rescuing or purchasing) all white pits are a genetic defect. It must have at least one spot of color somewhere on it's body.

However, any other solid color is acceptable. Weird.

Albinos in any species are an oddity.

Our next will be a rescue, though our current girl is basically one given where her siblings went and the mentality of the guy giving them out (selling to all but us...neighbors)

Post some pics. I love these dogs.

I'm also a big fan of the brindle colors too. I don't see many of these in person either though.

My friends pit Diego, looks just like mine but taller and he stayed skinny where my dog stopped getting excersize and now is shaped like a barrel haha. He doesn't run though, he pounces around like tiger (from Winnie the Pooh) It's hilarious.

They looked like the same litter although mine came from a shelter and he bought his from some guy like 2 years later. The seller was later was busted for having 20+ living in the basement at his house. Most of which were placed in good homes locally.

dsm03 said:

It's like bad children, there is no such thing... Just bad parenting!

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Truth.

Some of the best dogs I have trained have been pit and pit mixes. I have seen more bites take place from ankle biter breeds than most APBT, Am Staff, and mixes of those breeds but it's not as widely known because when a min pin bites someone, the consequences are not as catastrophic. A pit or pit mix bite someone, it inflicts far more damage than a min pin. Its not that pits as a breed in comparison to other breeds are more aggressize towards people than min pins or poms as a breed. But no one goes to the hosiptal when a pom or min pin draws blood, you put a band aid on and go, but when a pit draws blood it's a little different.

One other issue is in a lot of news stories when a dog attacks they catagorize the dog as a pit bull when in fact it's not a pit. This happens all the tme. Boxers, boxer mixes, Am Staffs, american bulld dogs, etc, they all get lumped into one group, which doesn't help anything.

We live in the land of the free though... Yeah free to do whatever we're told to do...

DaRKSiDeGSX said:

I would save one from there though.

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I think you need to make a trip to IL. This guy's just amazing, and he's gonna need a permanent home.

Meet you half way! (If the Talon would make it )

that's a serious haul...haha does he come with spare DSM parts?

Fact is that when left to thier own devices a golden retriever well turn out far more agressive than a pit. Pits are territorial and VERY protective of thier packs. Pits are not bad dogs they've been given a bad reputation from all the thugs that breed them and beat them for agression.

Psh, this is stupid. We had this cute little Cocker Spaniel when I was younger that attacked the sh*t out of one of my neighborhood friends. He was taken to the hospital, got stitches, ended up with nasty scars, the works. His dad even pressed charges against my mom.

Luckily he dropped them, but the point is, all dogs are freakin' capable of attacking someone. It really irks me when the media does their "public awareness" reports about pitbulls and rotties and these "victims" come on to tell their story.

i have seen my pit be agressive with other dogs, is about all. and when it has happened i could see with out a doubt why it happened. the last one i can recall is when i took him over to a friends house to see how he would do with there dog, at the request of the home owner. Timmy my pit plays a little bit agressive not in a mean sence but just wrestling around and running around the yard, and a little humping for some reason like alot of dogs do. i have learned to notice this progression in agressive play during there incounter untill it seems to boil over and it ends up in somewhat of a fight, never has it ended up in a serious injury of either of the dogs, becuase i have been there to stop it, becuase i have seen it b4. this progression of agression happens on part of both dogs. it would be the same thing as what you would see out of your kids usually they will start ruff housing with a friend and it will progress untill one or the other has had enough and they exsplode with anger.

as for how the dog acts when another dog gets beyond it comfort level as to how close it is to your property, lets not dance around it this is what we get most dogs for is to protect or allert when someone is near the property. the problem is that people get overly comfortable with how there dog is acting, but we cant do that it only takes one mistake for something bad to happen. i have had more ankle bitter dogs, try to snip or run at me and my gf when we were walking than any larger guardian type dog, the differance is that they don't have the strength to break there chain.

as for the dog attacking other dogs or kids in the family is hard for me to exsplain becuase i have never been around a dog who has exspressed this agression. but for any new pet into a household where there is any older dog not just a pit. you have to be extra carefull becuase according to that older dog that is the dominate dogs house when the older grownups are not around.

oh and a buddy of mine had a boxer and it was never mistreated, but none the less was just as territorial and other animal agressive as any other breed.

DaRKSiDeGSX said:

Also, the reason I saw this was the questions about the found pit bull mix.

That dog most certainly is a pit mix, note the muscular and skeletal structures. Also the tail is a good indicator as well. The ears do resemble a German Shepard or even a Great Dane.. who knows.

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I definitely skipped 85% of that life biography you wrote but got to this and had to note that those ears look NOTHING even close tot hat of a Greatdane. Think of a Greatdane as super-sized Boxer. Their ears are large and floppy but many are familiar with ow they look cropped.

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I definitely skipped 85% of that life biography you wrote but got to this and had to note that those ears look NOTHING even close tot hat of a Greatdane. Think of a Greatdane as super-sized Boxer. Their ears are large and floppy but many are familiar with ow they look cropped.

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Thanks for pointing that out. I don't really know anything about Great Danes, and that makes you correct that most people would only know that because they all seemed to have cropped ears.

I doubt either Shepard or Dane is part of the mix here. I'm just saying they are similar.

I agree with no shep or Danes. And exactly right, Danes have floppy ears.

I really think he's at least half or 3/4 pit. His skull is a mile wide, and even in his emaciated state the muscles in his hind legs are huge. I've heard that some "pits" do have ears that stand up. He could be just an ill-bred full "pit". He seems to come with all the best about traits and so far none of the bad. He's fiercely loyal already, in three days. He stays on my deck all day while I'm gone and greets me in the drive when I get home. My landlord 'neighbors' live in the same farm and we share a yard. He's friendly with them, but stays on the deck all day, waiting for me they say, even when they are out working around the yard. He might come out and join them for a bit, but goes back on the deck in short order. He hates for me to be in sight but not near him. Whimpers and cries.

No dog or cat aggression. We tested him in the yard (everyone leashed) with a shepherd, a lab, my 10 yr old 40 lb mutt who looks like a huge Chihuahua and a shitzu. He showed only a passing friendly interest. Then with little dogs, fence between them. He was friendly with the paps and tried to pee on the yorkie. . He then bolted in terror, tail tucked, when the miniature schnauzer growled and challenged him. . ( in case anyone is wondering were all these dogs came from, we have a groom shop on the property and six borders right now. Plus landlords 4 smalls and my Mutt)

Darkside, not much laying around. I can throw in a stock 2g intake & air box and a broken 2g Bov. Oh, and about a half a rattle can of Wildberry. . But I could get him halfway......

He needs a name, really bad. I need something to call him while working with him. I was thinking maybe Dizzum, Dizzy for short.. I'm open to suggestions.

I'm madly in love with him, but my old guy that I already have is set in his ways and I work too much to give both proper attention. And the big guy definitely needs worked with daily. Scary smart tho, working with him is so easy.

doayamaha said:

i have seen my pit be agressive with other dogs, is about all. and when it has happened i could see with out a doubt why it happened. the last one i can recall is when i took him over to a friends house to see how he would do with there dog, at the request of the home owner. Timmy my pit plays a little bit agressive not in a mean sence but just wrestling around and running around the yard, and a little humping for some reason like alot of dogs do. i have learned to notice this progression in agressive play during there incounter untill it seems to boil over and it ends up in somewhat of a fight, never has it ended up in a serious injury of either of the dogs, becuase i have been there to stop it, becuase i have seen it b4. this progression of agression happens on part of both dogs. it would be the same thing as what you would see out of your kids usually they will start ruff housing with a friend and it will progress untill one or the other has had enough and they exsplode with anger.

as for how the dog acts when another dog gets beyond it comfort level as to how close it is to your property, lets not dance around it this is what we get most dogs for is to protect or allert when someone is near the property. the problem is that people get overly comfortable with how there dog is acting, but we cant do that it only takes one mistake for something bad to happen. i have had more ankle bitter dogs, try to snip or run at me and my gf when we were walking than any larger guardian type dog, the differance is that they don't have the strength to break there chain.

as for the dog attacking other dogs or kids in the family is hard for me to exsplain becuase i have never been around a dog who has exspressed this agression. but for any new pet into a household where there is any older dog not just a pit. you have to be extra carefull becuase according to that older dog that is the dominate dogs house when the older grownups are not around.

oh and a buddy of mine had a boxer and it was never mistreated, but none the less was just as territorial and other animal agressive as any other breed.

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This was painful to read.

Not all dogs "hump". Did you fix yours?

Pits are not "guardian" dogs nor should they be bought for "protection" unless gangs of other dogs are breaking into houses around you and you have a poorly socialized dog.

Dizzum is good stuff. There was a post with an article about how Pit bulls we're used as 'nanny-dogs' a loooong time ago. There are a ton of photos in the bottom, there is one with a little girl that looks just like your newly found pit.

A bump for an amusing reaction the dog has to YouTube...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGDZjZpbQeI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Ofcourse anyone will have an opinion about pit bull attacks. Whether they know about the breed or not. Most likely because it's a visious behavior.
Do I get pissed at people degrading the breed? Perhaps. I do realize it is a stereotype though. Just like the way people from different cultures are sterotyped. Anyone from baggy pants kids, Harley peeps, hot rodders or middle eastern decendants.
Degrading the breed mostly comes from negative press. What sticks in most peoples mind is 'pit bull attack'. Then when one is announced it seems another is reported. Kind of like a school shooting or a shark attack. It sells news. I haven't seen any conclusive numbers info on specific dog bites. Just that they are a very powerful breed. The damage they can do is what sticks out to everyone.
I have a three year old "pit bull" since she was six months old. I have read tons of info on these dogs on forums after I got her. Yes, after. I have had dogs all my life. Umm, I'm not in my 20's or 30's even either, ha. I have to admit I think these dogs aren't like other dogs. First of all, a pit bull isn't a specific breed. Many breeds are termed pit bull. My dog from what I know is an American Pit Bull Terrier. Not a huge headed, short legged, squatty dog with a wide studded collar. I can't say my dog is a pure breed either. Just like old cars what are the chances over the years it is original stock.
I certaintly don't think, as stated here many times, most pit bull owners train their dogs to be aggressive. Intentionally anyways. These dogs are high energy, instinctive, and eager to please. I'm not quite sure why these dogs are aggressive towards people. It is not their nature, from all I have read about them. At this point, I conclude that it may come from the envirorment they are in. Dogs sense the energy of their owner/ people they are around. Easy to see how people that have stated, they would dig a grave for some s.o.b. that would try to take their dog, the guy that said he would kick to kill a cocker spanial, or even the one that said he grabbed a dog by the throat and put it to the ground, would have a dog sense that energy. That vibe is sent to how the dog responds. Not the dogs fault. It should be understood that a high strung dog may not be friendly. Especially if it is kept inside or out on a chain. It needs to be often excersised and socialized to release anxiety. They say a tired pit bull is a happy pit bull.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtGT2apOlKw

Mine is too damn lazy to attack anything. I don't think he's full pit though. Looks more like a Boxer and Pit mix. Lazy fool is asleep at my feet as I type this.

Cute pup!

We need an official, show me your puppies thread!!!!

I think there are two or three.

Well merge that Shhh together than..And lets see some more puppies..