91-gsx said:

I read the NASA released statement, letting people know that the movie is fake, and that it is not based on true events. Sense when have they ever come out, and commented on any movie?

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NASA has always commented on conspiracies, they have huge articles on their website about 2012. This is where all the dumb conspiracy theorists fall apart. They believe the moon landing was fake, but believe we encountered hostile intelligent life on the moon...come on really, can't even keep your stories straight.

Just because someone believes their is extraterrestrial life out there, doesn't mean they have proof, your other statements carry no weight. There is a difference in believing and knowing.

I thought the reason why they set off to the moon was to find a crashed ship looking for transformers.

FearlessNick said:

Before they went on the mission they each told their familys they are doing different things.

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Oh, because the movie told you this, clearly that explains everything.

Oh well. That's why we're humans. We can agree and disagree! Believe and not believe.

H4G64T said:

They believe the moon landing was fake, but believe we encountered hostile intelligent life on the moon...come on really, can't even keep your stories straight.

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No one said that at all. Its just merely not possible and never happened. If you look at the facts a 5 year old could see what really happened.

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Just because someone believes their is extraterrestrial life out there, doesn't mean they have proof, your other statements carry no weight. There is a difference in believing and knowing.

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They found worm fossils on mars, how much for proof do you need? Et need to come down and shake hands with ya?

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The Van Allen Belt "may" produce dangerous radiation. Words like that don't prove anything, it's straw man tactics that conspiracy theorists cling to, to claim they are right.

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Scientists felt the effects of the belt from 600 miles away and got sick from those effects. That was 600 miles away, not imagine passing through it. The "belt" is 25,000 miles wide...

That is also just one of the many reasons why such a landing was impossible.

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91stocker said:

No one said that at all. Its just merely not possible and never happened. If you look at the facts a 5 year old could see what really happened.



They found worm fossils on mars, how much for proof do you need? Et need to come down and shake hands with ya?



Scientists felt the effects of the belt from 600 miles away and got sick from those effects. That was 600 miles away, not imagine passing through it. The "belt" is 25,000 miles wide...

That is also just one of the many reasons why such a landing was impossible.

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We also have plenty of knowledge on radiation to know how to block it.

A few worm fossils mean nothing, it doesn't prove that we are being visited by aliens.

H4G64T said:

NASA has always commented on conspiracies, they have huge articles on their website about 2012. This is where all the dumb conspiracy theorists fall apart. They believe the moon landing was fake, but believe we encountered hostile intelligent life on the moon...come on really, can't even keep your stories straight.

Just because someone believes their is extraterrestrial life out there, doesn't mean they have proof, your other statements carry no weight. There is a difference in believing and knowing.

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Read what I wrote. I wrote, "Sense when have they ever come out, and commented on any movie?" A movie is not a conspiracy theory? It is just a movie, get over it... This is where your dumb theory falls apart.

I did not say they did not go to the Moon. I believe that they have. A conspiracy theorist? I think that the fact that you go around trying to disprove people with the conspiracy theory, that everybody is a conspiracy theorist, is also laughable. Throwing things that you cannot accept in a category, is called denial. The government has lied, that is a fact. Could they be lying about this, maybe... Who are you to answer that question?

You got me there... Sense I wrote the word "believe," that means I must be wrong, they must be wrong, the whole world must be wrong. Which fits into your conspiracy theory, sadly... I can admit when I am wrong. I was wrong for saying "believe," the officials in that video KNOW that extraterrestrials exist. You can admit to your wrong doing here, but you probably will not. Watch the video, read, and educate yourself.

H4G64T said:

Oh, because the movie told you this, clearly that explains everything.

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Im saying to your question on hpow they kept it a secret. Telling ot was first canceled. Then its a secret mission.

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91-gsx said:

Read what I wrote. I wrote, "Sense when have they ever come out, and commented on any movie?" A movie is not a conspiracy theory? It is just a movie, get over it... This is where your dumb theory falls apart.

I did not say they did not go to the Moon. I believe that they have. A conspiracy theorist? I think that the fact that you go around trying to disprove people with the conspiracy theory, that everybody is a conspiracy theorist, is also laughable. Throwing things that you cannot accept in a category, is called denial. The government has lied, that is a fact. Could they be lying about this, maybe... Who are you to answer that question?

You got me there... Sense I wrote the word "believe," that means I must be wrong, they must be wrong, the whole world must be wrong. Which fits into your conspiracy theory, sadly... I can admit when I am wrong. I was wrong for saying "believe," the officials in that video KNOW that extraterrestrials exist. You can admit to your wrong doing here, but you probably will not. Watch the video, read, and educate yourself.

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I have no personal opinion on if we were at the moon or not or if intelligent life outside this planet exists or not, so how can I be wrong?

The only thing I have stated here is this movie is a bunch of BS that conspiracy theorists are going to hang on to as unquestionable proof. The events in this movie never happened, period, how many times are Americans going to follow this path...everyone and their mother thought the Blair Witch was real for the longest time until they came out and said it wasn't.

H4G64T said:

We also have plenty of knowledge on radiation to know how to block it.

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China said in 2010 with all their tech that it was impassible by any organic unit. You think 60 years ago they had the ability to block it? The landing supposedly happened 7 years before pong was created. Thats what they were working with .

91stocker said:

China said in 2010 with all their tech that it was impassible by any organic unit. You think 60 years ago they had the ability to block it? The landing supposedly happened 7 years before pong was created. Thats what they were working with .

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How do you equate Pong, which was developed by some computer programmer with almost no financial resources, to that of a government organization with billions in funding?

We had airplanes and cars before Pong too, were those all made up?

H4G64T said:

A few worm fossils mean nothing, it doesn't prove that we are being visited by aliens.

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It proves that there is life on other planets, finding life on the planet next to us means there is undoubtedly life on other planets. It only takes time for some form of life to realize it exists. Then only more time to advance their tech.

With the planets being hundreds of millions of years old, there could be life out there with 200 million years more advanced then us. Thats really hard to wrap your mind around if you think about it. Specially since humans have only been civilized for what 30k years. Thats only a blink comparatively.

H4G64T said:

How do you equate Pong, which was developed by some computer programmer with almost no financial resources, to that of a government organization with billions in funding?

We had airplanes and cars before Pong too, were those all made up?

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Yea we had computers too, they were just the size of a warehouse.

H4G64T said:

I have no personal opinion on if we were at the moon or not or if intelligent life outside this planet exists or not, so how can I be wrong?

The only thing I have stated here is this movie is a bunch of BS that conspiracy theorists are going to hang on to as unquestionable proof. The events in this movie never happened, period, how many times are Americans going to follow this path...everyone and their mother thought the Blair Witch was real for the longest time until they came out and said it wasn't.

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Wow... So you do not have an opinion for either side... So, now that means you can sit in the middle and pat yourself on the back for being the most "level headed" person caught in this conversation. Look at what you write, how you write, and what it actually means. Americans might take your words for what they mean, not what you believe they mean...

91stocker said:

It proves that there is life on other planets, finding life on the planet next to us means there is undoubtedly life on other planets. It only takes time for some form of life to realize it exists. Then only more time to advance their tech.

With the planets being hundreds of billions of years old, there could be life out there with 200 billion years more advanced then us. Thats really hard to wrap your mind around if you think about it. Specially since humans have only been civilized for what 30k years. Thats only a blink comparatively.



Yea we had computers too, they were just the size of a warehouse.

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Where do you get your facts? Scientists have determined our solar system is 4.6 billion years old...but somehow in your world planets have been around for hundreds of billions of years. The average lifespan for a star, which is a sun, is around 10 billion years, but according to you planets are hundreds of billions of years old, so somehow, after their sun became a red giant and self destructed, creating a black hole and wiping out the entire system with them, these planets continued to exist.

91-gsx said:

Wow... So you do not have an opinion for either side... So, now that means you can sit in the middle and pat yourself on the back for being the most "level headed" person caught in this conversation. Look at what you write, how you write, and what it actually means. Americans might take your words for what they mean, not what you believe they mean...

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Anyone who realizes this movie is just a way for Hollywood to make money by preying on the gullibility of it's viewers, and is not real, is level headed.

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Where do you get your facts? Scientists have determined our solar system is 4.6 billion years old...but somehow in your world planets have been around for hundreds of billions of years. The average lifespan for a star, which is a sun, is around 10 billion years, but according to you planets are hundreds of billions of years old, so somehow, after their sun became a red giant and self destructed, creating a black hole and wiping out the entire system with them, these planets continued to exist.

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Sorry meant millions and i corrected it, but your facts are way off. You do realize there is more planets and stars outside our solar system right?

The oldest star is 10-15 Billion years old.

91stocker said:

Sorry meant millions and i corrected it, but your facts are way off. You do realize there is more planets and stars outside our solar system right?

The oldest star is 10-15 Billion years old.

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So..how does that make my facts way off. When I clearly just stated that the average lifespan of a star is 10 billion years old, and the oldest, meaning closest to death, is 10-15 billion years old?

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Where do you get your facts? Scientists have determined our solar system is 4.6 billion years old...but somehow in your world planets have been around for hundreds of billions of years. The average lifespan for a star, which is a sun, is around 10 billion years, but according to you planets are hundreds of billions of years old, so somehow, after their sun became a red giant and self destructed, creating a black hole and wiping out the entire system with them, these planets continued to exist.



Anyone who realizes this movie is just a way for Hollywood to make money by preying on the gullibility of it's viewers, and is not real, is level headed.

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Well at least you realize it is just a movie.. I have yet to read one person who said I believe this movie is a real documentary, or that anything happened like it did in the movie.. It is like you are arguing with yourself, or something.. Are you an attention whore?

91-gsx said:

Well at least you realize it is just a movie.. I have yet to read one person who said I believe this movie is a real documentary, or that anything happened like it did in the movie.. It is like you are arguing with yourself, or something.. Are you an attention whore?

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Did you happen to read the posts on page one, especially the original one, where it is asked if this is a government conspiracy?

Guys...it's a freaking movie!!! They just did it because they know people will go watch it!! They're not going to make a film about something boring/uncontroversial.

For all the conspiracy theorist...if the gov had lied about the moon etc...don't you think they'd be able cover up the making of this movie and prevent it from being so main stream?

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So..how does that make my facts way off. When I clearly just stated that the average lifespan of a star is 10 billion years old, and the oldest, meaning closest to death, is 10-15 billion years old?

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Merely stating that yes our solar system may be 4.5billion but there are others much older, maybe twice as old. Thats alot of time in a never ending space for something to realize it exists as humans have done. Comparing our short 30k existence to maybe one that has been aware for billions on years. There is life out there, the worm next to us proved that. Its just ignorant to think we are the most intelligent thing there is. Specially considering we wont be around in another 1000 years. Im sure we will have killed ourselves off before then.

There could have been civilizations springing up and dieing off all over, for millions of years. There could have been on this planet even. There would be absolutely no sign of it after a couple thousand years.

91stocker said:

Merely stating that yes our solar system may be 4.5billion but there are others much older, maybe twice as old. Thats alot of time in a never ending space for something to realize it exists as humans have done. Comparing our short 30k existence to maybe one that has been aware for billions on years. There is life out there, the worm next to us proved that. Its just ignorant to think we are the most intelligent thing there is. Specially considering we wont be around in another 1000 years.

There could have been civilizations springing up and dieing off all over for millions of years. There could have been on this planet even. There would be absolutely no sign of it after a couple thousand years.

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OUR solar system is NOT the universe. Solar, as in sun, system, a.k.a. our sun system, which includes our sun, it's planets and it's moons. Which is only part of the Milky Way galaxy, which is only part of the universe. Why is it, that every post you go on, you act like an expert, but continue to confuse facts and call everyone wrong?

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OUR solar system is NOT the universe. Solar, as in sun, system, a.k.a. our sun system, which includes our sun, it's planets and it's moons. Which is only part of the Milky Way galaxy, which is only part of the universe. Why is it, that every post you go on, you act like an expert, but continue to confuse facts and call everyone wrong?

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I really don't think you understand what he just said...

mindset said:

I really don't think you understand what he just said...

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No, I DON'T think YOU are understanding. A solar system, any solar system has a lifespan average of 10 billion years, before the star (sun) becomes unstable and self destructs. That means, that there is no planet that is hundreds of billions of years old. Maybe there were planets that existed hundreds of billions of years ago, but they do not still exist, so there is no civilizations that are hundreds of billions of years older than us.

H4G64T said:

Did you happen to read the posts on page one, especially the original one, where it is asked if this is a government conspiracy?

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I read all the posts, maybe you should read them. Not one person wrote anything that remotely brands them as a conspiracy theorist. If they asked a question, that does not make them a conspiracy theorist. Do u not get it, your trying to get people not to ask questions. This might be how you live your life, but most people here do not think that they know everything.

By the way, most of your facts about the planets around us, are in fact theories, or beliefs. They do not know what if what they are saying is 100% right, and neither do you.