I've heard of the trans fluid thing but just went with seafoam instead

No sure about the tranny fluid! i have worked on lots of cars and i use Lucas product to help with ticks. I also have a 02 lancer with about 216,000 miles on it and i use Lucas oil stabilizer.

Also check this link out

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-engine-fuel/118213-how-stop-famous-ticking-4g63-makes.html

I don't want to start a war here, but I would look into some more recent sources for test data and information as to "why" Lucas Oil Stabilizer does what it does. There is no such thing as a miracle product, contrary to what the over-paid and clever marketers will tell you. (Well ok... Sea Foam is close. )

As for the original question, you may want to look into a different grade of oil, that is better matched to your climate and engine operating temperatures. You could also have a minor oiling issue with either one or two lifters, or a galley in the head.

The bottom line is it's happening for a reason; the best solution is to find out why, and fix it...rather than putting a band-aid on it.

talonspeed21 said:

No sure about the tranny fluid! i have worked on lots of cars and i use Lucas product to help with ticks. I also have a 02 lancer with about 216,000 miles on it and i use Lucas oil stabilizer.

Also check this link out

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/articles-engine-fuel/118213-how-stop-famous-ticking-4g63-makes.html

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oh yes! i forgot to mention the oil additives. well im sold, will try it next oil change

calan said:

I don't want to start a war here, but I would look into some other sources for test data and information as to "why" Lucas Oil Stabilizer does what it does. There is no such thing as a miracle product, contrary to what the over-paid and clever marketers will tell you. (Well ok... Sea Foam is close. )

As for the original question, you may want to look into a different grade of oil, that is better matched to your climate and engine operating temperatures. You could also have a minor oiling issue with either one or two lifters, or a galley in the head.

The bottom line is it's happening for a reason; the best solution is to find out why, and fix it...rather than putting a band-aid on it.

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yeah im never one to just band aid an issue. you think thicker or thiner oil? i live in miami and its never cold here.

AG 305 said:

oh yes! i forgot to mention the oil additives. well im sold, ill give it a shot my next oil change

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Based on one recommendation and a post from 2004?

Wow... you're an easy sell.

I agree it is happening for a reason...... and SEAFOAM is the shit!!

or maybe get revised lifters???

Revised lifters...go.

calan said:

Based on one recommendation and a post from 2004?

Wow... you're an easy sell.

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yes!

talonspeed21 said:

I agree it is happening for a reason...... and SEAFOAM is the shit!!

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i actually seafoamed my car and didnt even get any white smoke this motor is freakin clean i tell ya! never seen something so stock 116k original never rebuilt miles from 1991

AG 305 said:

you think thicker or thiner oil? i live in miami and its never cold here.

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I occasionally ran Lucas (and about every other additive) many moons ago at different times for various reasons... but these days I'm a pretty firm believer in "if you have to add something to your oil, you're using the wrong oil or have a mechanical issue to deal with".

About the best advice I can give you on oil is to read this article by FP, and trust their judgement.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...Performance Recommendations for Motor Oil.pdf

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or maybe get revised lifters???

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H4G64T said:

Revised lifters...go.

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im not really asking whats wrong or how to fix im just asking about the realness of what i read about. i know for a fact i must have some sort of minor issue and i do plan on resolving it when i get a chance

Some did the ATF thing to do the same as a quart of kerosene in with the oil and let it idle for 10 min then do the oil change - clean things up, clear ports and oil filter screen... In fact, some 'seasoned' mechanics would, drain the pan first, then do one quart each of ATF and kerosene, and one quart of 30w oil and let the motor run a very low idle for 10 mins, then do the drain. That would really clean things up quite nicely and get some of the power back from the motor.


Yet, I wouldn't run it for 1500 miles since the oil has been thinned drastically and can cause major excessive wear. These fluid additives are very corrosive-which is good for cleaning-but not for lubrication.

(IMO Lucas aint the stuff since it foams up the oil ... just not the additive that I'll use if needed..)

you should save the money that your gonna use on tranny oil and magic oil and just save for revised lifters... just my .2cents but honestly this is all new to me if i knew more about this id be glad to help sorry but theres a shit load of smart ass dsmers that'll help you out

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you should save the money that your gonna use on tranny oil and magic oil and just save for revised lifters... just my .2cents

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loo magic oil...

but theres a shit load of smart ass dsmers that'll help you out

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Not so much that, but some of us has been around automobiles for quite the long time - from carburetors and V8's to DSM's..and beyond.

Thus, we have earned some credits under our belts since we've been there and done that too many times.

It's called, "experience" and that is what you grow by.

But, you can learn as well as you go along being that you're fairly new to the DSMTuners world... Thus, don't "short change" yourself since you don't know as much as some of us .. you'll get there, trust me.

"Marvel's Mystery Oil" - witches brew!

Personally I like to stray away from additives. Like stated before its almost like trying to bandage the issue. My best recommendation is to pull the lifters and clean them with diesel fuel. There is a article about this in the tech forum. But it works remarkably well and knocks a lot of the crap out of the lifters. I would try this though, before I replaced them.

You could try seafoam. That shit really does work. It does, don't dispute it. Too many people have had good results using it properly. Its the only "magic" snake-oil in a can that I believe in. But it won't fix worn parts, it will only clean carbon and other nasty shit out.

Believe it or not my lifter tick stopped after I started using WIX filters.... yeah.

MMO helps sometimes. are you positive it is lifter noise? and not a spun rod bearing? they sound somewhat similar to an inexperienced ear. I know.

Does the lifter tick happen towards the end of your oil change cycle? does it go away when you finally change oil? then you probably should run some seafoam, and or Marvel Mystery Oil a few times see if that does anything. Make sure to use synthetic, 5w30, im sure u do.

If you feel like going on a date with your car for a whole day, and if your timing belt is due for a change... you could easily pop out the lifters for cleaning, do it between removing the old belt, setting timing, and installing new belt...

Soak em in some chemical dip (carb cleaner of the barrymans variety, available at autozone) just make sure u dont buy a used chem dip. people do that. a holes.

Back to the noise, when it does occur, is it constant? doesnt matter if there is load or not?

People use atf because of the cleaning addtivies that are in it and it's not corrosive definitltly wouldn't use it for 1500km but 10-20mins yes.