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dm7x09

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Aug 14, 2011
Poway, California
Alright, ive finally got a 97 GSX and had a few questions. Ive had a few other eclipse but have always wanted a GSX and finally got one but im new to having a turboed engine and all. For starters as soon as i get it im doing the maintenance, just gets pricy as im sure you all know. After though ive been told to get a turbo timer, i was wondering if this is true and what exactly it does and if theres other things that include a turbo timer in it since theres a lot of electronics with these cars. I also have read about the timing belt and am going to change that but where do you get a OEM belt thats not from mitsubishi? i have more questions but ill start with these, thanks fir the help.
 
A turbo timer isn't a necessity but it is a good idea. What it does is after you shut your car off it keeps the car running for a minute or so to allow the exhaust gasses to cool the turbo. As far as a belt goes you can get a belt from auto zone or whoever. Just make sure it isn't a no name, I use gates on all my cars.
 
A turbo timer can help u extend the life of ## turbo, thats the most important function however u can get them with some extras in it. A far as the oem timing belt thats not from the dealer check out extremepsi.com u can find a lot of things there
 
Yeah I agree with Hugolm, you can get pretty much everything you would need from extremepsi. They carry everything from sensors to oem bolts you can't find anywhere else. They should be paying me for this haha.
 
I see a turbo timer as being a waste of money, as long as you have some patience and allow your car to chill out before you shut it down. As for timing belts, gates is a solid brand, but greddy, power enterprise, and a few other brands make an aftermarket belt. This site has tons of info in regards to getting started, so you are in the right place!
 
thanks for the replies, sounds like a turbo timer could be pretty essential. im getting this car completely stock and being used but new to me who knows what maintenance is current, just know that the seller is getting it aligned, and water pump changed along with a gasket. ive looked up maintenance but what would you guys recommend looking at or changing? i also read briefly about testing compression, a leak down test, and ignition timing, simply put how do you do them and what do they test?
 
thanks for the replies, sounds like a turbo timer could be pretty essential. im getting this car completely stock and being used but new to me who knows what maintenance is current, just know that the seller is getting it aligned, and water pump changed along with a gasket. ive looked up maintenance but what would you guys recommend looking at or changing?

if the seller is getting the water pump done make sure thats it, bc he may be doing the timing belt too. usually those go hand in hand killer. how many miles does the car have on it? golden rule, change the timing belt every 50-60k miles, period, no questions.

and get a receipt from the seller for what they say they are getting done before they sell it to you.

turbo timer is far from a necessity, only reason i have one for my evo is bc i got it cheap and im always in a rush LOL. if you are worried about cost and maintenance money, dont even think about a turbo timer. you can put that $110-$150 towards something else you need: open intake filter, new plugs and wires, check your end links and suspension, etc etc.
 
Would recommend u 2 do:
1.oil change
2 coolant flush
3.brake flush
4.new pads
Etc..
You no just the regular routine maintenance... 2 keep the dsm alive (there known 4 dying @the worst possible times) LOL..
 
Don't waste your time or money with a turbo timer. Once you park, just sit and wait for a minute or 2 before you shut the car off. That's one mod that's free, it's called "Patience." Put that money into maintenance and up keep.
 
Don't waste your money on a turbo timer period. If it's the stock turbo it'll be all right. I'm sure if it was required or would do damage to the car it would of been factory/ stock. Even the Evo X don't have it right now... My car is going 116k and I have never turbo timed it. Turbo is as good as new.

Was it a honda kid who told you?
 
I agree Turbo Timers are a waste of money. Change your oil to something synthetic like Mobil 1. And just sit for a minute or two after you pull off a highway or are driving at high speeds before you turn off your car.

Like the others said too, change the timing belt, and take those balance shafts out.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but turbo timers are of good use on oil only turbos (no coolant lines going through it). So not a necessity for us as the stock turbo has coolant lines cooling it as well, not to mention you could simply wait a little in your car. If you want one though, I'd suggest buying it used (you can get them between 30-50$)

As for maintenance
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/maintenance-repairs/364640-maintenance-list.html#post152145218
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/frequently-answered-dsm-questions/239375-maintenance-schedule.html
 

Wow, really?

There has been a 87 Plymouth Voyager 3.0 V-6 in our family, bought brand new. Broke in on the 'whatever' from the factory oil then changed to Mobil 1 synthetic. At 216,000 miles the valve seals went bad as with all those SOHC 3.0 6es. When we pulled the heads off, the cylinders still had the original hone marks on the walls from the factory.

Opinions are like peoples A$$es. Fixed...
 
*Goes a searching*

Let me save you some time Joshua. :)

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...Performance Recommendations for Motor Oil.pdf

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As for the original topic, turbo timers are great if you need to add some blinky lights and another switch to your car to make it a better match for something out of F&F.... or if you are in the habit of boosting all the way into your driveway and then shutting the car off immediately. Otherwise, there are about 3246287374687687234 other things that it would make more sense to spend money on.

On the t-belt, just go with a genuine OEM Mistu belt. They've held way more power for more years than you'll likely ever see. :)

(FWIW - I just switched from a Gates Racing belt back to a good old Mitsu belt, and it runs quieter.... and even looks better than a discolored "bling" belt).
 
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Change your oil to something other than Mobil 1. It doesnt have to be synthetic as long as its a good quality oil and you change it when you should.

Fixed.

If you have the money I recommend Brad Penn oil. I run Valvoline VR-1 20w50 non synthetic in my car just for the convenience of it being right at Advance Auto. Its by far the best oil at an auto parts store for the price.

You do not need a turbo timer, our mitsubishi turbos are coolant cooled as well as oil cooled. If you blocked off the coolant lines to your turbo and ran it only oil cooled, then yes, it would be a good idea to get one if you have no patience. The only reason you have to let a car with only an oil cooled turbo sit is so that the oil can cool down more before you shut off the car.

But I always let my car sit for 30 seconds before shutting her down.
 
You don't really need a turbo timer anyways if you just take it easy and don't put excessive load on the engine the last 2-3 miles. My drive way is about a mile and a quarter, down hill. I just pop her into neutral and coast downhill. Works great. Never needed a turbo timer. Never had an issues with coked bearings

Mobil used to be good oil, quality has gone downhill in the past 5 years or so. Valvoline or Castrol Syntec are good options off the shelf. Royal purple is ridiculously overpriced, there are a few other high end oils out there that beat royal purple on a price point.
 
You dont really need a turbo timer. But if your are tired of sitting in your car after driving i would def get one. i just scored a greddy turbo timer for 50 bucks
 
There has been a 87 Plymouth Voyager 3.0 V-6 in our family, bought brand new. Broke in on the 'whatever' from the factory oil then changed to Mobil 1 synthetic. At 216,000 miles the valve seals went bad as with all those SOHC 3.0 6es. When we pulled the heads off, the cylinders still had the original hone marks on the walls from the factory.

Opinions are like peoples A$$es. Fixed...
A DSM and a 1987 Plymouth Voyager use a similar hydraulic valve lash adjuster- aside from that they are nothing alike. The last time I saw a 3.0 Chrysler van laying down 600whp on the stock block was.....never.

That in mind, high-performance turbocharged engines require oils with high levels of ZDDP to protect the both the turbocharger and crank thrust systems from wear. In order to comply with new oil regulations (so they can keep selling their oil to consumers), Mobil 1 has been cutting back on the levels of ZDDP in their oils just like many of the conventional brands. Sure Mobil 1 is still a great oil, but it no longer has the shear protection that it once had...making it not as desirable for older high performance applications.

Don't believe me? Robert Young has put the oil which you speak so highly of to the test for you.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...Performance Recommendations for Motor Oil.pdf


I advise you to trust and listen to the site's staff which are experienced in all areas of DSM knowledge instead of mocking them. Ignorance gets you nowhere fast.
 
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Looking at the pdf justin posted I think its time I switched from syntec to valvoline. The valvoline is usually a dollar cheaper per quart and has higher zinc/phosphorus content. And both them have mobil 1 beat by a long shot.
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You'd be a fool to not atleast take into consideration what the "DSM Veterans" are saying. Granted it is only their personal opinions, but most of it is actually backed up with facts. In the end, the decision falls on your shoulders, but do yourself a favor and get educated. Even if the subject is indeed OIL.
 
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