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Holset Turbos, PART 8

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They are not cataloged or displayed anywhere online at this time- for more information, get in touch with Bill @ Bullseye Power (231-571-8424, [email protected]) and state that you were referred by myself or TalonDave from DSMTuners. I'm not in a position to release any pricing or technical info to the public aside from what I've said above.

Results will soon follow comparing the standard 6-blade 60mm HX40 compressor to this beautiful piece. Although, Dave is going to need some larger injectors before we go much further so any additional airflow at this time will most likely result in the boost level being lowered slightly....but that will make for a more efficient setup- the same airflow at a lower boost level means a cooler air charge and a much faster car. ;)

Thanks I'll just wait till the results are released and they put them up for sell...besides I haven't bought a BEP housing yet and I will probably get the DSM flanged one that will be a restriction anyways.
 
Talked to Bill over at Bullseye. These are not yet available but he told me to check back in a week or two. I plan on getting one and posting up results vs my billet 7 blade.
 
Even if my bep dsm housing is a restriction I would still see a quicker spool up with this wheel correct? Would I just make the same amount of power because of the housing?
 
Even if my bep dsm housing is a restriction I would still see a quicker spool up with this wheel correct? Would I just make the same amount of power because of the housing?

That's something I'll be looking for when I compare the 2(batmowheel vs billet 7 blade). I will be comparing them both on my bep .55 a/r housing. The new batmowheels are supposed to "enhances high pressure spots on the compressor with raised inducer blades that are designed to essentially grab more air to produce more power. That allows for greater flow without the downfalls of running a larger compressor."
 
Even if my bep dsm housing is a restriction I would still see a quicker spool up with this wheel correct? Would I just make the same amount of power because of the housing?
I can't verify that this wheel is lighter than the billet 7-blade HX40 or cast 6-blade compressor. I won't know this info until I have the wheel in my hands.

It does have better aero tech than any HX40 compressor available from Holset. This means that the compressor will be more efficient at lower boost levels, and as a result it will generate a cooler air charge across the board. If you can move just as much airflow at 30psi with the Batmowheel compressor as you could at 37psi with the cast 6-blade, that frees up a ton of options as far as other ways to unlock power through timing.

It may also allow you to get away with requiring a less-expensive fuel to keep knock under control- example, you may be able to pull off 28-30psi with pump gas using the Batmowheel compressor and move the same air that you could with the cast 6-blade wheel at 35psi and race gas / E85.

As far as turbine restriction goes, this compressor will change nothing- it may help you to reach your turbine's airflow threshold at a lower boost level....that's about it.
 
Sure wish they would come out with one for the hx35, I guess if they dont a Twin Scroll Hx40 setup might be in the future for me. Justin you will be the first to know haha. Thanks for the hx35 it spools so much faster than the he351 I sent you.
 
Sure wish they would come out with one for the hx35
I don't know if this will happen or not. The 7-blade HX35 compressor is already near the flow threshold of the HX35 turbine...especially on our cars. Anyone who wants more compressor flow from their HX35 can simply swap to a HX40 compressor wheel and cover, where HX40 owners seeking more compressor flow are out of options.
Thanks for the hx35 it spools so much faster than the he351 I sent you.
I never figured the HE351 would be a good choice for our cars. The 7-blade HX40 compressor on the tiny HY35 turbine in a 9cm single-scroll turbine housing just isn't a good combo for power on a gasser. It would be like putting a 60-1 compressor on a TD05H turbine.
 
Yeah I was a little dissapointed my the turbo but it was also cheap and no one else had really tried it.
 
I don't know if this will happen or not. The 7-blade HX35 compressor is already near the flow threshold of the HX35 turbine...especially on our cars. Anyone who wants more compressor flow from their HX35 can simply swap to a HX40 compressor wheel and cover, where HX40 owners seeking more compressor flow are out of options.

I never figured the HE351 would be a good choice for our cars. The 7-blade HX40 compressor on the tiny HY35 turbine in a 9cm single-scroll turbine housing just isn't a good combo for power on a gasser. It would be like putting a 60-1 compressor on a TD05H turbine.

I have a friend with a colt and his set up with the HE351 is impressive. He's pushing 54lbs/min. @ 33 Psi on 93 oct with 0 knock and 14* timing He hits full boost in 3rd at 4,600-4,700 rpm and at 3800 in 5th gear. All street tuned with ECMLink V3 with SD and Boost by Gear.

Also, I was just told by a little birdy that the bullseye wheel is already out and it cost $450. http://www.cumminsperformanceparts.com/hxorhebaishe.html
"6 blade design, extremely efficient, aggressive splitters! Drop in design! You can install this wheel in your driveway. Increases flow at less boost! Make more power and spool faster! Lower egts!!!"
 
Also, I was just told by a little birdy that the bullseye wheel is already out and it cost $450.

Little Birdy was wrong.... The new Batmowheel for the HX40 don't cost that much, and they are not available yet, not for a few more weeks!
 
Little Birdy was wrong.... The new Batmowheel for the HX40 don't cost that much, and they are not available yet, not for a few more weeks!

How is this one different then the one on the Cummins web site? You can order them on there right now for $450.
 
How is this one different then the one on the Cummins web site? You can order them on there right now for $450.

Wow I just now looked at the link in your post! $450, I wouldn't order it from there, I have an invoice that came with mine from Bill @ Bullseye, and if I don't run their stickers on my car, or give them feedback on the new wheel then I would have to pay for it.... Trust me, its not near that price from Bullseye!
 
Wow I just now looked at the link in your post! $450, I wouldn't order it from there, I have an invoice that came with mine from Bill @ Bullseye, and if I don't run their stickers on my car, or give them feedback on the new wheel then I would have to pay for it.... Trust me, its not near that price from Bullseye!

Sweet ill probably pick one up then. My friend is into the diesel stuff also and is about to stick a Cummins engine into and old school station wagon. He says all of the holset stuff hits their sites earlier...which makes pretty good since.
 
I have a friend with a colt and his set up with the HE351 is impressive. He's pushing 54lbs/min. @ 33 Psi on 93 oct with 0 knock and 14* timing He hits full boost in 3rd at 4,600-4,700 rpm and at 3800 in 5th gear. All street tuned with ECMLink V3 with SD and Boost by Gear.
54 lb/min at 33psi for a HX40 compressor is rather pathetic. Last year at the same boost level, Dave saw 64 lb/min with his bone-stock HX40. Your buddy could probably move the same amount of air with a HE341 (7-blade HX35 compressor) and the turbo would spool about 500 rpms sooner.

For comparison, when Gabe ran the 11.14 @ 133mph on a 2.0 60ft with his HY35 at the end of last season, he was also at around 33psi on pump gas....and logging just shy of 60 lb/min. The HY35 and HE341 use the same rotating assembly.
 
54 lb/min at 33psi for a HX40 compressor is rather pathetic. Last year at the same boost level, Dave saw 64 lb/min with his bone-stock HX40. Your buddy could probably move the same amount of air with a HE341 (7-blade HX35 compressor) and the turbo would spool about 500 rpms sooner.

For comparison, when Gabe ran the 11.14 @ 133mph on a 2.0 60ft with his HY35 at the end of last season, he was also at around 33psi on pump gas....and logging just shy of 60 lb/min. The HY35 and HE341 use the same rotating assembly.

Oh I see. I thought it was good because he was able to run so much boost on 93 without knock. I cant even run close to that with my FP HTA turbo when im on straight 93 oct.
 
Here's some pictures on my setup HX40 6 blade with, bullseye bolt on Housing. I am still waiting on the oil restrictor and return line fittings.
I got 2 -12an Steel bungs so i can weld one to my my oil pan, and with the other one to the turbo side. :)
 

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^ Awesome setup. You may not need much restriction with that -12AN drain....just enough to keep you under 72psi of oil pressure at wide-open throttle. Your drain is definitely adequate as long as it's not the drain pictured in the second photo...that's definitely a kink waiting to happen. ;)
 
^ Awesome setup. You may not need much restriction with that -12AN drain....just enough to keep you under 72psi of oil pressure at wide-open throttle. Your drain is definitely adequate as long as it's not the drain pictured in the second photo...that's definitely a kink waiting to happen. ;)

The drain on the 2nd picture its, my old one for my 16g, i just put it on the holset because there, is still oil in my oil pan and i dont want to leak, on the driveway ... i am still waiting my 12AN fittings .... :D i am going to use 12An streight fitting, of the turbo and 12An 45degree on the pan so there will be no kink :)
The only part I think of replacing, is the evo III manifold with Forced Performance one.
 
What size is the feed fitting on the oil filter housing? is it not 1/8th npt?
 
Is that the same as the piece that comes in the Extreme psi kit?
 
Well that is what I was thinking as well.
 
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