Thanks!

I just completed the smog, so I won't have to worry about it for 2 yrs.
It's good to know that I may not have to convert back to get thru smog ck..

Thanks, Justin for the mpg details....I will definately go with the EVOiii instead of the T28. So glad I found this site before I ordered the T28.

I plan on ordering the following this weekend and could use your help:

EVO III
I- do I need an install kit or just oil lines? if just oil lines which ones?

injectors
- need help here: 550's or bigger? will the bigger injectors reduce my mpg in daily driving??

Fuel management
-I'll ck for the EPROM
Is the DSM link the best choice for my application or?

FMIC from punishment racing (Thanks Justin!)

BOV
- from everything I have read, the 1G is favored over aftermarket (is this correct?)

Anything else I am missing?

Thanks!

EPROM
- what is the best site for ordering or upgrading the socket (if applicable)?

If I do upgrade to socket, will I need to send out the EPROM for programming or is this an interface for a controller (sorry for the newnbe questions). Which is the best vendor for programming (if applicable).

Thanks

ECMTuning, Inc.
All of your questions, answered.

scuba1x said:

EVO III
I- do I need an install kit or just oil lines? if just oil lines which ones?

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Just the oil supply line. You can slot the upper holes a little on your T25's oil drain and it will fit the 16G, and the T25 water lines will fit as well with just a little tweaking. The only other part is the j-pipe, and it's included in the Punishment kit along with a knockoff Greddy Type-S blow off valve.

scuba1x said:

injectors
- need help here: 550's or bigger? will the bigger injectors reduce my mpg in daily driving??

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With a good tune you can rightfully run 1600cc injectors and still get the same fuel mileage you would if you were running 450's.

The only negative about larger injectors is that they don't work well with certain tuning systems....for example, an AFC cannot tune anything larger than 650cc injectors safely on our cars; but ECMLink will allow you to run very large injectors and tune them as if they were 450's. ECMLink modifies the actual fuel map of the ECU instead of tuning by airflow correction.

scuba1x said:

Fuel management
-I'll ck for the EPROM

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Your car is a '95....there's about a 90% chance it has an EPROM ECU installed. This is a huge plus for you!

scuba1x said:

Is the DSM link the best choice for my application or?

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In this case, yes- you can run ECMLink Lite and have full tunability without some of the "race only" features of the program.

scuba1x said:

BOV
- from everything I have read, the 1G is favored over aftermarket (is this correct?)

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You're probably the most attentive new member I've seen in a very long time.

The 1G valve is indeed better- it doesn't require tuning or diaphragm replacement like many aftermarket valves, and is plenty strong enough to hold the boost pressure you're looking to make.

scuba1x said:

EPROM
- what is the best site for ordering or upgrading the socket (if applicable)?

If I do upgrade to socket, will I need to send out the EPROM for programming or is this an interface for a controller (sorry for the newnbe questions). Which is the best vendor for programming (if applicable).

Thanks

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If you have access to an EPROM burner, you can rightfully have the ECU socketed and simply burn a basic tune into the chip manually. The ECMLink program simply allows you to make these corrections on the fly, along with allowing you to log things like knock and injector duty to get your tune more perfect than a basic EPROM chip burn.

The only other thing you'll need is a larger fuel pump for whatever injectors you decide to run....the size of the pump hinges on the injector choice. A 190lph pump is a great choice for 550cc injectors and doesn't require and adjustable pressure regulator.

Thanks for supporting the site, by the way!

Ebay parts always seem "iffy" to me... I wouldn't trust an Ebay BOV to seal up completely like their competitors... You get what you pay for.

Ahhh Scuba is in NorCal - a T28 might be a good choice with all the police harassment that goes on out there (welcome, never thought I'd see someone from Felton here - I've been there a few times myself). A stock appearing turbo would probably be a safe bet in case you get sent to a Test Only emissions shop, or worse, get sent to the State Ref. The FMIC you might be able to get away with, and if not, putting the stock I/C back on for the test is a lot easier than going back to a T25/T28 turbo after you go to a 16g style turbo.

You might not get as much power out of the T28 as you would the 16g, but you'll be happy enough with it if you get it tuned right (I always suggest using DSMlink/ECMlink) and have good supporting mods - and you won't have to worry about getting harassed with it since it looks stock. You might not need an FMIC with a T28, but by the time you upgrade your piping and couplers/clamps, you'll be close enough to FMIC pricing, it just makes sense to go that route. If you want a good FMIC at a low price, go with a VR Speed kit, I just put one one and it's a very nice kit - can't believe how they can sell it for so cheap. Polished aluminum piping, nice big core, good fit, t-bolt clamps, etc. Can't beat it. Use a 1g BOV. And keep your old I/C parts in case you need to put them back on for smog testing.

If you do go with a T28 and a VR Speed FMIC, PM me, as you'll need a "v" pipe to connect the turbo to the lower I/C pipe, since the turbo faces the opposite way - I had one made up that's polished stainless steel and matches the VR kit pretty well, but never put it on the car. I was originally going to go with the same Big T28/FMIC set up but changed plans.

All this coming from an old NorCal boy - born and raised in the Bay Area. It sucks out there, because you're one emissions test away from having to put it all back to stock in order to pass, or even get tested. And you have to deal with it every year. That's one thing that will suck when we move back this summer (gotta love how lenient they are here in Denver).

Ludachris said:

You might not get as much power out of the 16g as you would the Big T28, but you'll be happy enough with it if you get it tuned right

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I always thought the 16g has more potential than a T28...

Another option for the OP is to get the T28, hard piping and get a stock Supra side mount intercooler. They are bigger than the stock 2g one and fit in the same spot. There are a couple install threads on here. One thing I like about it is it keeps the car stock appearing.

I plan on going with a TD05 20g turbo, stock 1g intercooler piping and a Supra sidemount on my 99. May not flow the best but it'll be stock looking to the untrained eye.

FLASH1970 said:

I always thought the 16g has more potential than a T28...

Another option for the OP is to get the T28, hard piping and get a stock Supra side mount intercooler. They are bigger than the stock 2g one and fit in the same spot. There are a couple install threads on here. One thing I like about it is it keeps the car stock appearing.

I plan on going with a TD05 20g turbo, stock 1g intercooler piping and a Supra sidemount on my 99. May not flow the best but it'll be stock looking to the untrained eye.

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Typing error, fixed. Meant to say he wouldn't get as much power out of the T28 as he would the 16g.

The problem with the Supra side mount is the cost and the extra work that goes into mounting it, compared to the benefit and potential future limitation. It's almost (but not quite) as much work as installing a FMIC with some of the custom fab that needs to be done for mounting, pipe routing, etc. And the cost is almost the same as a FMIC when all is said and done. I know because I was on the verge of buying one and was trying to source the parts. For me, it made more sense to just go FMIC, then, if I had a problem with emissions testing (visual test) I'd just swap the stock set up back in for the test. And the benefit is that if you decide to upgrade to a bigger turbo later, you won't be limited by the smaller Supra i/c.

FLASH1970 said:

I plan on going with a TD05 20g turbo, stock 1g intercooler piping and a Supra sidemount on my 99. May not flow the best but it'll be stock looking to the untrained eye.

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The inlet / outlet of the Supra SMIC is 2.5"; the factory 1G intercooler piping is 1-7/8". You're going to have a ridiculous amount of couplers to make this happen, and it's going to be far too restrictive for a 20G turbo....especially on the cold side of the intercooler.

Thanks, Justin.

Which size injectors do you recommed for my set up? 650, 750, larger?

I plan on going with the evo lll and the PR FMIC.

Smog ck is only every 2 yrs, so worst case, i'll just have to swap it back to stock (but I'll try a pre-smog ck first, at couple of shops if needed. If it passes, then no problem)

After spending a lot of time searching threads and internet searches, allmost all agree the evo would be a way better set up. Better to not limit myself upfront

I'll do the timing belt and balance shaft eliminator while I'm waiting for the turbo and the FMIC (along any other maint..that's needed)

scuba1x said:

I plan on going with the evo lll and the PR FMIC.

Smog ck is only every 2 yrs, so worst case, i'll just have to swap it back to stock (but I'll try a pre-smog ck first, at couple of shops if needed. If it passes, then no problem)

After spending a lot of time searching threads and internet searches, allmost all agree the evo would be a way better set up. Better to not limit myself upfront

I'll do the timing belt and balance shaft eliminator while I'm waiting for the turbo and the FMIC (along any other maint..that's needed)

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Oh you won't have trouble passing the actual test with good tuning - it's the visual inspection, and finding a shop that will test you due to the aftermarket parts under the hood. That's the trouble I had to deal with out there, and part of what I'm not looking forward to when we move back.

I passed Smog with an Fp B28, and they never even looked twice at it. Same with the FMIC, they did give me issues with the Intake, good thing Injen has a CARB EO #.

One question, Auto or Stick? this may help you decide on the FMIC, and Turbocharger choice.