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Locked out of gear with engine running PLEASE HELP!!!

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AbsolutGS-T

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May 10, 2010
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I replaced my slave cylinder line for my clutch, I bled the air out with a autozone bleeder. I am confident that I got all the air out of the system, My car shifted and ran fine for a day or so. Today I cannot shift in to gear with the car running and the clutch fully depressed. I can shift in to gear with the engine off but not while running. I can stop at a light in gear with clutch depressed so im sure the clutch is disengaged. I bled the system again and no air came out, why can I not put it in gear while stopped with engine running.



Thanks

Dave
 
I'm going to guess that your hydraulics are fine. Its either the pressure plate or some springs came out of your clutch disc. I had the same problem. Checked my hydraulics and they were fine. So I took it apart and found a spring laying in there. Replaced the clutch and it was fine. It sucks because its a decent amount of work but way better than paying a shop to do it.
 
Ya i made sure there was no air in the lines at all and the clutch fluid is full. I have a unsprung clutch disc because that has happened to me before. The clutch itself is only 5 months old. The slave cylinder moves fully also.
 
look inside of the car where the master cylinder comes through the firewall and see if there is fluid there and if there is your master cylinder is leaking and needs replaced. if thats not the problem than try adjusting the rod on the MC get under the car and see if u can push the slave cylinder in from the the clutch fork if its rock hard than u need to adjust it out till u can push it in and when u get to that point back it out a half a turn till u cant move it not u may need to adjust it to get it jus right hope this helps
 
Did you try adjusting it? Hathe same problem for a long time and was a simple fix
 
look inside of the car where the master cylinder comes through the firewall and see if there is fluid there and if there is your master cylinder is leaking and needs replaced. if thats not the problem than try adjusting the rod on the MC get under the car and see if u can push the slave cylinder in from the the clutch fork if its rock hard than u need to adjust it out till u can push it in and when u get to that point back it out a half a turn till u cant move it not u may need to adjust it to get it jus right hope this helps

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Either way your clutch is still dragging, whether it's from improper clutch adjustment, faulty hydraulics, or for whatever reason the disc(or even a popped out spring) is coming into contact with the flywheel/pressure plate when you push the clutch all the way down.
 
I have tried to adjust it with no luck. It doesnt grind or anything it just locks me out of every gear when the car is on . But when its off it works perfectly.
 
That's because you clutch isn't disengaging. Either your pedal adjustment is wrong your hydraulics are bad or your pressure plate has broken springs.

My phone put that smiley in the title LOL
 
Well since you have an un-sprung disc and if your hydraulics are working I would look at the pressure plate or maybe bent clutch fork? I'm just trying to think of what I all looked into when I had this problem. I would check the fork. Try pulling down on it to see if its snapped.
 
OK, I just went outside and pulled on the fork, It doesnt seem to wiggle at all in any direction.
 
Okay well its probobly not broken. If there is no leaking on the inside by the master cylinder rod and no air in the lines and slave is working fine my next and only other guess would be the pressure plate.
 
Ok guys I pulled the transmission out of the car and everything was in perfect condition, I put in a new clutch fork and TOB just in case. Now it will go into gear but When stationary it is pretty difficult to get into gear. It does not grind or anything and I bled the system again just in case and didnt see any more air come out. There is no fluid leaking from the slave or master cylinders either. Once the car does get rolling though it will shift pretty smoothly into gears. I dont understand why it is so hard to get into gear when stationary.

Thanks

Dave
 
The pressure plate was in perfect condition when I pulled the transmission. No bent fingers or anything like that. Ive adjusted to Jacks video perfectly.
 
Did the pedal ever go soft or stick to the floor while you were adjusting the master cylinder rod? If so, there is still air in the system. And if you're like me, it was the slave cylinder that was holding that last big, critical pocket of air. Bleed it and report back if this post was at all relevant.
 
I just re bled the slave cylinder and it didn't fix the problem at all. Im really stumped on this one. I may try a new slave cylinder even though the one on the car isn't leaking.
 
Does anyone have any suggestions that I try to help fix it? It is still hard to get into gear when it is just sitting there at idle but once I get going it shifts fine.
 
Did you shim the pivot ball when u pulled the trans to replace the tob?
 
Better yet : Did you press the slave cylinder INTO it's chamber when bleeding the line? There is usually an air-pocket behind the slave cylinder that will remain there and will not allow for full travel to be acheived unless it is evacuated.

When bleeding the clutch, wait for the flow o fluid to slow to a dribble and then grab the rod of the slave cylinder and press IN. The slave cylinder will move in further than the release fork pushes it and you should notice fluid bubbling and splurting out if you did not perform this the first time. With the rod pressed in as far as it will go, close the bleeder valve and release. Pump the clutch 3 times and THEN try it.
 
Did this thread ever get RESOLVED?:ohdamn: I'm always stressing the importance that people mark their thread's as resolved.

I am having the same problem.
I know my hydraulics are not to blame. Because it was all working fine before the clutch install.
Anyone ever ruled out that maybe the shift linkage position was a problem.
 
It went into gear with the engine off. It was either a hydraulics problem, or a clutch problem.

Yeah I thought so. Will i have my shift linkage dead on so i guess that wasn't the problem.
Since A: it's not the hydraulics... maybe it's B. Even so what should I be checking on.
When I installed my new act lighten flywheel and new act street disc I didn't resurface the flywheel cause I ask sam at rre and he said it was good to go like that.
Any of you guys ever used a new flywheel without resurfacing it? Problems like this came up?
 
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