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Is a PT Cruiser a DSM?

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is this site not called PTtuners.com? Honestly and gratefully, in the 8 years i've been on this site, I don't think i've ever heard or seen any info on a PT looser. First time for everything i guess :coy:
Welcome to the forum.
 
Lol bro's around here try and stretch the dsm name to srt's.. I guess Chadbrochills parents thought it would be cool and buy him a turbo pt cruiser instead of an srt, and he tried really really hard make it sound any cooler by calling it a dsm?
 
DSM - Diamond Star Motors. Produced the 90-99 E/T/L. If it is not an talon, laser, or eclipse produced between those model years. Its not a DSM. (Think maybe there were a few 89 lasers?)

No an avenger is not a dsm nor is it even similar. Sorry but its just not mmkay? The 420a was abomination and it is unfair the europeans got the N/A 4g63 in the 2nd gens.

A PT loser is not a dsm.

A 3S is not a DSM. A Stealth is a Captive Import. It was just a japanese produced vehicle rebadged. Same with the starquest.

A GVR4 is 100% imported.
 
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There was a turbo PT driving through town today. The front bumper was hacked up to fit a larger FMIC and the driver was like a 50 year old woman. I laughed when I saw it, and I hope to god that lady didn't put the front mount in there. ROFL Boy are they ugly.
 
Alright alright alright. It was a question that has been answered.
Little do people know, avengers and sebrings and the like are technically dsms. All 2gs aren't even TECHNICALLY dsms. Yup.
Let's not scare newbies away from this website because we were all there once. No, pt cruisers are not dsms. However either are 2gs. Yet, if you do end up getting a pt cruiser, feel free to use the 420a section of the forums for atleast a little information.
Hey, if you're buying a dsm, make sure to try and take someone who knows what they're looking at. I remember my first dsm. Ugh.
Then again, if you make a mistake buying a crap car, you'll learn a lot!
:p

Welcome and
Good luck!

Tanro, double check where avengers and sebrings were made. :)
 
DSM - Diamond Star Motors. Produced the 90-99 E/T/L. If it is not an talon, laser, or eclipse produced between those model years. Its not a DSM. (Think maybe there were a few 89 lasers?)

No an avenger is not a dsm nor is it even similar. Sorry but its just not mmkay? The 420a was abomination and it is unfair the europeans got the N/A 4g63 in the 2nd gens.

A PT loser is not a dsm.

A 3S is not a DSM. A Stealth is a Captive Import. It was just a japanese produced vehicle rebadged. Same with the starquest.

A GVR4 is 100% imported.

They also made Talons in 89 too. My buddy had one. :thumb:
 
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GSR-4 was exported from the states to the rest of the world.

You guys are forgetting the Galant VR-4 and Evo III. While technically not a DSM, they are so damn close they might as well be.
 
Unless you have a 95 it's a DSM both mine say DSM all over the place. But my buddies 96 doesn't say it once anywhere on the car only mitsu signs. Just FYI
That's because technically only 1g's are DSMs. Just FYI

LOL at the kid that said "but they come turbo'd now"
Good thing that's the criteria to be a DSM, I was expeceting a better comment though mike :(
Pooping yourself is pretty legit though...
 
Eclipse GSR-4. Google it. It was the badge for the GSX in places like Asia, Europe, and Canada. I know there a few members on this board with 1st Gen GSR-4s. Unsure if there are any 2nd gen GSR-4s

2nd Gens still have the DSM badge under the hood, and in the door frame's.
 
Jeez, the DSM thing again?!? If you want to be REALLY technical... only 1ga's are TRUE DSM's as Mitsu bought out the equity share in 91 from Chrysler. If you want to go by the Normal, IL plant production site then yes you have to add: Mitsubishi Mirage/Eagle Summit, Mitsubishi Galant, Dodge Avenger/Chrysler Sebring, and the Dodge Stratus/Chrysler Cirrus when they were made there and the Mitsubishi Endevor, along with the Eclipse. So in that case, there are still DSM's being made today. A case can also be made for the Chryslers with Mitsubishi motors but who wants to call a Plymouth Reliant (2.6 Hemi!!!) a DSM?!?!
 
No an avenger is not a dsm nor is it even similar. Sorry but its just not mmkay? The 420a was abomination and it is unfair the europeans got the N/A 4g63 in the 2nd gens.

setting aside the comment that avenger is not a dsm (its been gone over too many times), to say that an avenger is not "even similar" just shows that you know nothing about 2g's, and should probably keep your opinions to yourself on anything other then your 4g63 motor. there are more similarities between a 2g and an avenger than you can shake a stick at.

Avenger= 2g Eclipse with a usable back seat, a real trunk, different STYLE (not structure) front end, 2.5 V6 (6g72? i cant remember actual name. might be 6g73, but its a mitsu 2.5) as an option instead of a 4g63.
 
I knew all that. But a chrysler powerplant, and a 3S powerplant does not a dsm make.

I can bolt the seats out of a Malibu or a Slowbalt in my Mom's car, the radio too. So that makes her ION-3 a Chevy right?

http://www.dsmtuners.com/dsm_model_guide

Not every vehicle that came out of the Normal Illinois plant was a DSM.

I like the Avenger don't get me wrong. I would own one if I could afford to pay someone else to work on the V-6 engine. As I hate working on v-engines.

If anything, an Avenger and an Eclipse RS/GS Talon ESi are both Mopar.
 
i was just saying that the avenger is almost the same car as a gs/rs. if you want to do a 4g63 awd swap in a gs/rs, or an avenger, ever single step is exactly the same, with one exception. the avenger needs the drive-shaft lengthened 1 and 7/8 inch.

if you really want an avenger with a motor you can work on in it, get one and do a 4g63 swap LOL.
 
ive seen 2A's with DSM badge.. who is anyone here to say, that it is not a DSM LOLo when a factory assembly machine badged it DSM LOL

so theres no true amd fake dzm..

DSM is 3 companies that built these cars with different base models for peoples budget and preference.. theres awd, fwd , 2.4 , 2.0nt jus because mitsu didnt put the 4g63nt in a gs/esi doesnt make the car not a mitsu/eagle car.. WTF??

alot of you are too prideful.. Just because they made a slow 2.0 that every other car can beat doesnt mean it aint part of the family... its like the brother that was never athletic along with the family.. lets neglect him and not call him family LOL
 
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