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Kelford 264

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You probably won't find much about the 264/260 combo. If youre going to spend $600 on a set of cams most of us will plan ahead. Even with a 16g most people run a 272. Kelford are very aggressive so a kelford 272 is about equal to a bc280.

300-400 the 264/260 combo
450+ the 272s
 
You probably won't find much about the 264/260 combo. If youre going to spend $600 on a set of cams most of us will plan ahead. Even with a 16g most people run a 272. Kelford are very aggressive so a kelford 272 is about equal to a bc280.

300-400 the 264/260 combo
450+ the 272s


Actually the Kelford 264's are similar to the BC 280's, their 272's are "bigger" then the BC280's.

The Kelford 264's are "larger" then most other 272 cams on the market. While most just go with the bigger is better thinking this isn't always the correct thinking. A large/broad powerband is better then a short peaky one & if you don't have the proper supporting mods, large enough turbo etc, the 272's may not be the better route.

I went with the Kelford 264's for a couple reasons. First I was trying to get a cam that would allow me to pass emissions legally (though still not sure if I'll be able to with these but didn't want to run anything smaller). I still do most of my driving on the street so a large powerband is ideal. I'm currently running a 30R based turbo & if I go larger it will only be to a 35R. While the 264's may not get every last bit, out of the 35R, they will still make excellent power & be great to drive on the street. My goals are 500-550whp, & I believe the 264's are still a great choice for this. If your looking to go 600+whp & 8500+rpms, then the 272's would be the better choice. I'm looking to run mid to low 11's & I think the 264's are still more then enough cam to do this with. Guy have done it with the other "272" cams on the market, so with the Kelfords being more aggressive, it won't be the cams holding you back.

My car is in winter storage so I have yet to run the Kelfords but I'll be sure to post up info when I have it how they compare to my current FP1X cams, which are basically a more aggressive version vs the other typical "264" cams on the market.
 
Actually the Kelford 264's are similar to the BC 280's, their 272's are "bigger" then the BC280's.

The Kelford 264's are "larger" then most other 272 cams on the market. While most just go with the bigger is better thinking this isn't always the correct thinking. A large/broad powerband is better then a short peaky one & if you don't have the proper supporting mods, large enough turbo etc, the 272's may not be the better route.

I went with the Kelford 264's for a couple reasons. First I was trying to get a cam that would allow me to pass emissions legally (though still not sure if I'll be able to with these but didn't want to run anything smaller). I still do most of my driving on the street so a large powerband is ideal. I'm currently running a 30R based turbo & if I go larger it will only be to a 35R. While the 264's may not get every last bit, out of the 35R, they will still make excellent power & be great to drive on the street. My goals are 500-550whp, & I believe the 264's are still a great choice for this. If your looking to go 600+whp & 8500+rpms, then the 272's would be the better choice. I'm looking to run mid to low 11's & I think the 264's are still more then enough cam to do this with. Guy have done it with the other "272" cams on the market, so with the Kelfords being more aggressive, it won't be the cams holding you back.

My car is in winter storage so I have yet to run the Kelfords but I'll be sure to post up info when I have it how they compare to my current FP1X cams, which are basically a more aggressive version vs the other typical "264" cams on the market.

That's exactly the answer I was looking for, I am also running a FP3052 with comp 100's. I was looking for something more aggressive but not losing my low end power, 272's would not be good for me. I originally wanted to go with the GSC S1 but I couldn't get a hold of a set.

Everyone has been telling me to just get a set of 272's or 280's but i know I will lose my beautiful low end torque, they do not understand that I hand pick every part to match everything else and I don't want to have to rev to the moon to make some power

Also Daren, what valve springs are you using with the Kelfords? I was just thinking to just buy them once and go with the FFWD Beehive springs so I can be able to sleep at night knowing I will never have to change them.
 
That's exactly the answer I was looking for, I am also running a FP3052 with comp 100's. I was looking for something more aggressive but not losing my low end power, 272's would not be good for me. I originally wanted to go with the GSC S1 but I couldn't get a hold of a set.

Everyone has been telling me to just get a set of 272's or 280's but i know I will lose my beautiful low end torque, they do not understand that I hand pick every part to match everything else and I don't want to have to rev to the moon to make some power

Also Daren, what valve springs are you using with the Kelfords? I was just thinking to just buy them once and go with the FFWD Beehive springs so I can be able to sleep at night knowing I will never have to change them.

You have to remember the Kelford 264's are still bigger then most other 272's on the market so you may give up some bottom end compared to the 100's your already running. With that being said, you also have to take into consideration the Kelfords have pretty descent ramp rates/nice profiles from what I've been told. This should help with the loss in the lower end power (my FPX series of cams also have this benefit). So while the Kelford 264's are larger then most other 272's, the loss in lower end power may not be as large vs other "272's" but should have more top end power as well.

I plan to have my redline/shifting set around 8250-8500 & I believe the 264's should work in that range nicely. I went with the Kiggly behives, I figured the same as you, if the car ever becomes basically a track car & I want larger cams, the Kigglys should basically handle whatever I throw at them.
 
You have to remember the Kelford 264's are still bigger then most other 272's on the market so you may give up some bottom end compared to the 100's your already running. With that being said, you also have to take into consideration the Kelfords have pretty descent ramp rates/nice profiles from what I've been told. This should help with the loss in the lower end power (my FPX series of cams also have this benefit). So while the Kelford 264's are larger then most other 272's, the loss in lower end power may not be as large vs other "272's" but should have more top end power as well.

I plan to have my redline/shifting set around 8250-8500 & I believe the 264's should work in that range nicely. I went with the Kiggly behives, I figured the same as you, if the car ever becomes basically a track car & I want larger cams, the Kigglys should basically handle whatever I throw at them.

Yes I know I might lose a but of my low end but not as much as with regular 272's. They do have a higher lift then most cams at 11mm while others are at 10-10.5mm if lift. Do you think there is any major difference between the kigglys and ffwd springs? Or are beehive's more less the same.
 
Yes I know I might lose a but of my low end but not as much as with regular 272's. They do have a higher lift then most cams at 11mm while others are at 10-10.5mm if lift. Do you think there is any major difference between the kigglys and ffwd springs? Or are beehive's more less the same.

I believe there can be differences between them, best bet would be to get the specs on each to verify if their comparable. I went Kiggly because the place I ordered the rest of my parts from carried them but I believe FFWD usually makes pretty decent stuff.

Ok related to the Kelford subject. Can anyone tell me how 280s will behave on the street with a 2.3?

What, no one likes your thread, so you have to jump in someone elses ROFL (just read it earlier)

I don't think there are many guys/don't recall seeing guys posting up about using the Kelford 280's so info will be pretty limited. If their anything like the rest of their cams, I would imagine they are probably on the "aggressive" side with a good amount of lift & lots of duration. Would think they'd be great for a stroker, if your looking for big power & your able to rev high enough. Know places such as FP make cams that are designed specific to strokers as what works well on a 2.0 may not be the same on a 2.3. Only thing I'd be worried about with the 2.3 is the rpm limit & what rpms the Kelfords might be designed for.
 
I believe there can be differences between them, best bet would be to get the specs on each to verify if their comparable. I went Kiggly because the place I ordered the rest of my parts from carried them but I believe FFWD usually makes pretty decent stuff.



What, no one likes your thread, so you have to jump in someone elses ROFL (just read it earlier)

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Well This thread and mine were started right arround the same time so I figured since I didnt get no info over there I would wedding crash this one. Hope noone minds.;)
 
The more info the better, sooner or later I will be building a 2.3. Daren, did you have to do anything to install the kiggleys, did they just drop right in? FFWD claims that their springs are a direct drop in.

Mine aren't installed yet as the cars currently in winter storage. I'll be waiting till spring to pull the motor & install the springs/cams at that time. They should basically just drop in. The only thing thats a good idea is to verify the installed spring height. If you go with the FFWD's they should be able to tell you the proper installed height. This assures you are getting the correct performance to what the springs are spec'd at (seat pressure, etc). You may have to shim them (any machine shop should be able to do if you don't have the tools or a source for shims) but that should be it.
 
im about to purchase the kelford 272 for mostly street use. but im all stock internals what other supporting mods would i need to install theses monsters?
 
im about to purchase the kelford 272 for mostly street use. but im all stock internals what other supporting mods would i need to install theses monsters?
other then stiffer valve spring to handle its aggressive ramp rate, i dont see anything else.. Of cause you'll need a tune after the install.
 
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