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Oem, everyone will have their say there is no judge as whos wrong or right whos turbo is better or going to last, thats how it goes.
 
So you would pay 300 for a knock off then when it gives out spend 500 on the real thing? wouldn't it be better if you pay the 500 on the beginning and never look back ha?

Justin have been trying to rebuild every godspeed or all the other crap brands and he can tell you all are the same crap with the same material, just wait for him when he chims in.
 
NOTE: DSMers please don't look at this thread as a motivation to buy ebay parts, they are crap. prove me wrong with evidence, Again don't tell me your ebay exhaust have 3000000k miles because it is an exhaust and its just a piece of metal that will live for years.
You nailed it on the head, one rule of thumb I go by is "Don't buy anything internal off of ebay".
If you want a 95%+ chance of the parts working properly, which you do for the inside of your motor, buy name brand.
 
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and we just happen to be a very large group of people on the internet, who have seen literally HUNDREDS of more or less this same post. different phrasing of course, but its always "why does everyone hate ebay turbos so much, blah blah blah" then 3 months later "OMG! MY 150$ EVO3 16GT TURBO BLEW UP!!" then they sell their dsm and by an integra. I'm not saying your turbo IS garbage, I know nothing about godspeed so I can't speak to that. but I would highly suggest that you not come to this forum, and tell all the people who have been working on dsms specifically since we were 16 that you think we're wrong about something.

dsms are like NOTHING else. you come here from anywhere else and you have to start over learning a lot of things because nothing here makes sense.
 
iI have personally also bought ebay products. On really great value is the evergreen gasket kit. everything for $50, you really can't beat it. THe only problem I noticed was that the head gasket leaked but didn't blow. I also reused my stock head bolts so that probably has something to do with it. Also there are some companies on ebay that offer a cheap product but are actually designed and manufactured in the US. LIke I bought a knock off billet ssqv BOV that was manufactured in ILLINOIS and I've never had a boost leak and it sounds just as good if not louder that the HKS one, and I only $35 shipped and an hks version is $250. So all in all ebay does offer good products but there are still some things I just wouldn't rely on like most of the turbos. CXRacing is one of the better ones that will ship a Evo 3 16g to you door for $250, if I wasn't getting such a good deal on my MHI big 16g I would have went with the cx racing one.
 
so you are telling me all you want is to put a turbo on a dyno and compare it and thats all, because obviously you show no interest for reliabilit , oh and no one mentioned lifetime warranties, more like 90 day warranties, and yes Apex'i does give out warranties.

it seems your budgeting plan wont go very far because you will end up needing another turbo soon, and a hell of alot more repairs eventually which will put you in the garage for months maybe years. i have not met anyone that has made a 10 second car on a 400 dollar budget so to speak, nor anyone worth any real performance upgrades on any similar budget, good luck with your project.
 
and we just happen to be a very large group of people on the internet, who have seen literally HUNDREDS of more or less this same post. different phrasing of course, but its always "why does everyone hate ebay turbos so much, blah blah blah" then 3 months later "OMG! MY 150$ EVO3 16GT TURBO BLEW UP!!" then they sell their dsm and by an integra. I'm not saying your turbo IS garbage, I know nothing about godspeed so I can't speak to that. but I would highly suggest that you not come to this forum, and tell all the people who have been working on dsms specifically since we were 16 that you think we're wrong about something.

dsms are like NOTHING else. you come here from anywhere else and you have to start over learning a lot of things because nothing here makes sense.

not 16, i was 13 when i started :D the only day i would be surprised is when justin tell us that ebay turbos are not crap. OMG
 
I am not saying I am right. Please do not think that. I am saying that I have the chance to try it out, shed some light on a subject that is to me a hot button topic on this site. I have the ability to try it out with basically the risk of being out $300 more than what I already had planned on being out. I already planned on having the motor and head torn down and rebuilt. So, it is really just a science expirement to me.
 
not 16, i was 13 when i started :D the only day i would be surprised is when justin tell us that ebay turbos are not crap. OMG

dear god. working on someone elses? or did you get one when you were 13 cause you knew it'd take 3 years to get it running xD it took me nearly 2 years to get my car off the jackstands
 
I am not saying I am right. Please do not think that. I am saying that I have the chance to try it out, shed some light on a subject that is to me a hot button topic on this site. I have the ability to try it out with basically the risk of being out $300 more than what I already had planned on being out. I already planned on having the motor and head torn down and rebuilt. So, it is really just a science expirement to me.

right. only, every dsmnewb wants to "shed some light" on the subject of these ebay bull shit turbos. and every time, we tell then to save up the extra hundred and get a used mhi turbo. and most of the time, they buy the ebay one anyway.

you already have your turbo, so i guess you might as well run it.

you should be warned though IF it works (for your sake I hope it does, really) don't bother telling us about it, because we simply tell you that you got lucky (the truth, 99.9% of ebay turbos are COMPLETE shit) and then we will have to attempt to ward future dsmnewbs away from doing what you did, because they probably won't be so lucky.
 
dear god. working on someone elses? or did you get one when you were 13 cause you knew it'd take 3 years to get it running xD it took me nearly 2 years to get my car off the jackstands

haha i started reading in this forum when i was 12 so instead of buy toys i bought a 95 gst shell and got it running i less than a year so that's when i found out dsm is my thing. :D keep in mind nobody in my town knows what dsm is LOL, i never created an account till i was old enough (i didnt wanted to be bashed. LOL

Noobs can't tell me ebay turbos are not crap when i had used every kind of them to see if they last, then i bought the real think and still running after maybe 5 years. ;)
 
Are you serious? look what you are comparing, steel pipes or aluminum that their work is just let air pass VS a turbo which is a mechanism with bearings seals and a bunch of other stuff. WOW sorry but you FAIL, sorry to tell you this but your eBay turbo its not gonna last and if it do won't be much.

NOTE: DSMers please don't look at this thread as a motivation to buy ebay parts, they are crap. prove me wrong with evidence, Again don't tell me your ebay exhaust have 3000000k miles because it is an exhaust and its just a piece of metal that will live for years.

jusmx we need you here!

i can see where your coming from but ebay turbo's really are a 50/50 kinda thing, some people have gotten good ones other got the bad ones, me and my best friend both got ebay turbos he got a 50trim for his 420a and had that on two different 420a's and had it for over 3yrs!! and it never once gave him any problems, i bought a 57trim for my gsx and it lasted me over 8-10k miles!! then i sold the car, so both of ours were great, some other people on the other hand havent been so lucky, so buying things such as ebay turbos is like playing russian roulette with a half full magazine LOL half of us get lucky the other half, not so much.
 
Big difference though. You bought ebay parts that have very little chance of failing. A muffler, pipe and filter hardly justifies cheaping out on something that has moving parts and is under extreme heat.
 
Does your turbo have a lifetime warranty?
Be realistic at least?

My turbo was covered for the first year, against any failure not caused by improper installation and use, but i don't see how that's relevant.

They give you a 90 day warranty because most of them will make 90 days. The ones that don't are replaced at little cost.

Have you been to these sweatshops in China and saw them paying 10yr olds $10 to make Turbos out of beer cans?

It's an exaggeration. Have you been to china and seen engineers doing quality control checks on turbos with the same tolerances and material as MHI, Garrett, BW, etc?

Wanna prove a point, get 2 engine dynos with two new motors built by the same person and install both a Evo III 16G and the Godspeed 16G I bought. Run them non stop until one turbo gives out. Then we will have a definitive answer. It says it is a Godspeed Turbo and Godspeed has an actual website so, it may be a real Godspeed Turbo. I looked on here and the guys with the Godspeed Turbos have had good luck. Maybe it is a knock off. When I get it in and have it looked over by my shop we will know more.

My experience, as well as the experience of others proves my point. How many "Ebay turbo failed" threads are there?

There's a turbo builder on the site who posts lots of info about MHI vs Ebay 16Gs, and people still come along on a daily basis and ask about them. The experienced members all say the same thing, and then people buy them anyway, and we get more "Ebay turbo failed" threads.

How much does yours flow, not what the manufacturer tells you, how much have you measured?

Well i'm putting 54lbs/min through it on pump gas with no signs of restriction, so in my experience i know it's good for at least 520-540whp. :thumb:


As far as my approach to modding, do you know what other parts I am buying? Do you know my goals, the shop I am using? Just asking. So, I wanted to see what this turbo would do. What harm is there other than it either turning out to be a fun temporary turbo until I get the Super 20G and AWD swap or a piece of garbage that I replace with a different turbo or just put my stock one back one.

Why not leave the 14B alone until you have $ for a real turbo? Instead you're risking engine damage when that thing grenades...assuming you run real boost with it.

Don't run 15psi for a year and make a thread about how good it is. You could have done that with a stocker.

If I was a person who believed in the Ebay Turbos are shit thing, I would say "hey let me know how it works, let me know the goods, bads, likes, dislikes and who you got it from." But, I guess I am just a person who looks at things a little more open minded.

There's a difference between open minded and ignoring the experiences of hundreds of DSMers, turbo builders, and vendors.
 
so buying things such as ebay turbos is like playing russian roulette with a half full magazine LOL half of us get lucky the other half, not so much.

hmmm...:hmm:

russian roulette is played with a revolver, not a gun with a magazine because it will shoot every time, wether its 2 rounds, 10, half a mag or a full mag???? LOL, but i understood where you are coming from, i got the point...ROFL
 
hmmm...:hmm:

russian roulette is played with a revolver, not a gun with a magazine because it will shoot every time, wether its 2 rounds, 10, half a mag or a full mag???? LOL, but i understood where you are coming from, i got the point...ROFL

i think thats the point he's making LOL, with a revolver technically its possible to win forever because you spin the chamber every shot. with a clip half the people are guaranteed to die
 
I do not have a 14B, I have a 2G therefore my stock turbo is a wheezy little T25. And my project budget is not $400. Look, the 16G I bought is to hold me over for the time being. If it is garbage, I go get the 20G earlier than I expected to. No big deal. And seeing as I will be freeing up some money soon, I will have a greater ability to work on the car. If all else fails and the shop looks at the turbo and says do not take the chance, I will sell it to a Honda kid. No big loss.

This thread was originally intended to say that Ebay has some good deals, you just have to sift through all the BS just like on here, Craigslist, etc..... Some things you do not have to buy name brand, some you are better off, and some things you absolutely should.
 
I am not saying I am right. Please do not think that. I am saying that I have the chance to try it out, shed some light on a subject that is to me a hot button topic on this site. I have the ability to try it out with basically the risk of being out $300 more than what I already had planned on being out. I already planned on having the motor and head torn down and rebuilt. So, it is really just a science expirement to me.

The two parts you bought though were just piping?
Next time you rebuild your motor through some "ebay" pistons and rods in there with your ebay 16g and lets see how long it takes for you to blow that motor.
 
Next time you rebuild your motor through some "ebay" pistons and rods in there with your ebay 16g and lets see how long it takes for you to blow that motor.

First off it is throw not through, second of all I never recall and I read over my posts saying that I was using Internals from Ebay. Gotta love how people THROW in stuff that was never said. Buying stuff used is just as much of a crap shoot. You have no warranty, no idea of what shape it truly is in until it is delivered, no idea how it was treated, etc....

Look, this thread is obviously going to go nowhere. So, lets just do this. Probably in March or April when I have a few more parts and better weather I should be getting the Turbo installed. I will also being trying to restore the car to a better appearance and shape. You can follow the work or not. Does not bother me. Once I get closer to the engine tear down and rebuild I will be asking suggestions of the companies components I have in mind.
 
First off it is throw not through, second of all I never recall and I read over my posts saying that I was using Internals from Ebay. Gotta love how people THROW in stuff that was never said. Buying stuff used is just as much of a crap shoot. You have no warranty, no idea of what shape it truly is in until it is delivered, no idea how it was treated, etc....
I never said used was the way to go either? I agree that there are parts you can get off ebay where you don't need tier 1 product I.E. intake, exhaust, catch can, etc. (Piping is piping imho) However, things such as turbos and other main components should not be over looked when deciding what to go cheap on.

I would take a used 16g over a brand new ebay 16g any day. Ebay with never compete with OEM and if you think other wise then I can't wait for you to find out the hard way as many of us have.

Just don't sell your car to a junkyard because your turbo blow your engine.
I can't wait untill you discover how true this is.
 
yea stay away from ebay... and just wait for a deal to come by. i just purchased a BRAND NEW! MHI evo3 16g for $200! off this vw guy on craigslist(that onced owned a 95gsx) but sold it, and never ran the turbo! new! now thats a deal. ;)
 
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