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chardbox03

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not a big tuning guy more of a wrench turner... my buddy got me a hook on a garrett gt35r... what can i expect with a proper tune?? mods are as follows

1990 eclipse gsx 59,000 original miles
aem ems v2, switched to map for speed density, 3.5 bar, afpr, uego, wally 255 w/ rewire, kinsler 750's, 3" turbo back no cats, act 2600
 
With those injectors @rated static pressure, BSFC of .63, and maximum duty cycle of 80% you will see roughly 375 BHP (crank) with a good tune, using an injector calculator. Small differences can be had with upping fuel pressures.

If you want to take advantage of that turbo you will need to up your fuel delivery.
 
With those injectors @rated static pressure, BSFC of .63, and maximum duty cycle of 80% you will see roughly 375 BHP (crank) with a good tune, using an injector calculator. Small differences can be had with upping fuel pressures.

If you want to take advantage of that turbo you will need to up your fuel delivery.

That's why we don't tune with calculators. We use real-world results. On a simple AFC and 660's, I was able to go well over 400 WHEEL HP on 93 octane. Could have easily gone well past 450whp on race gas.

To the OP, that turbo is 500whp capable with the right supporting mods and enough boost. It wasn't listed but I would def. recommend an FMIC, some cams, and possibly a sheetmetal intake manifold to really allow that turbo to show its stuff.

Just take baby steps when tuning and turning the boost up. There IS a learning curve with these cars as well as tuning them. Unfortunately, if you miss a step or get a hiccup in the tuning, it CAN be costly!
 
Before you start getting stupid numbers you may want to get your internals taken care of. Wether the car is low milleage or not, a motor thats made to hold 195hp wont hold twice that for long if it hasnt been well taken care of. Plus that car is right on time for having all the big maintenance done. Timing belt, front cover, all new fluids. Sorry to be the burden of bad news, I just hate to see people automatically throw stuff at these cars and then give the car the bad wrap when they break. These are awesome cars and idk how long you've had yours but if you want to keep it around I highly suggest maitenance before performance. And dont just throw a huge monster turbo up there and expect it to make tons of power and be reliable. If your really serious about going to the 35r, spend the time to do it right. You'll get a lot more out of it.
 
My roommate put down 551awhp on pump gas with supporting mods with a 35r, he's actually #47 on the members dyno challenge. But like stated before, with proper supporting mods you can get some decent power.
 
Before you start getting stupid numbers you may want to get your internals taken care of. Wether the car is low milleage or not, a motor thats made to hold 195hp wont hold twice that for long if it hasnt been well taken care of.

I believe there are more than a couple guys that can prove a stock 6 bolt can handle a bit more than double their stock hp output, easily. Its all about the tune.
 
But can you add safely and reliably to actually having done it? It's one thing to do it and get a dyno sheet saying you've done it. Its a whole other thing to do it and drive this car constantly and have it get you back and forth where you want to and not have to worry about it. Plus, chances are if your going with that big of a turbo your not getting it to take it easy on the car, your getting it to beat up on it and put down power a lot. But I can be wrong, deffinately not the smartest person around, but I have worked on my fair amount of these cars and would say I have a good understanding of what works AND last and what just works.
 
That's why we don't tune with calculators. We use real-world results. On a simple AFC and 660's, I was able to go well over 400 WHEEL HP on 93 octane. Could have easily gone well past 450whp on race gas.

To the OP, that turbo is 500whp capable with the right supporting mods and enough boost. It wasn't listed but I would def. recommend an FMIC, some cams, and possibly a sheetmetal intake manifold to really allow that turbo to show its stuff.

Just take baby steps when tuning and turning the boost up. There IS a learning curve with these cars as well as tuning them. Unfortunately, if you miss a step or get a hiccup in the tuning, it CAN be costly!

You cant compare you numbers to the calculations. I mean every dyno is different and even the same ones are calibrated different. Dyno jets read really high and thats why people can make 400whp on a 16g. Dyno jets just lie to you in the end.

You say its only a 500whp turbo when I have seen 3076r's in my altitude lay around 600whp on a dynojet. That turbo can do well over 500whp on the right fuel.
 
You cant compare you numbers to the calculations. I mean every dyno is different and even the same ones are calibrated different. Dyno jets read really high and thats why people can make 400whp on a 16g. Dyno jets just lie to you in the end.

You say its only a 500whp turbo when I have seen 3076r's in my altitude lay around 600whp on a dynojet. That turbo can do well over 500whp on the right fuel.

I totally agree. I've never come close to a dyno. I was just giving the OP some ideas on numbers that are easily obtainable. And 500whp on a 35R should almost be a given. Once again, it was just a number as an example of what can easily be done.
 
But can you add safely and reliably to actually having done it? It's one thing to do it and get a dyno sheet saying you've done it. Its a whole other thing to do it and drive this car constantly and have it get you back and forth where you want to and not have to worry about it. Plus, chances are if your going with that big of a turbo your not getting it to take it easy on the car, your getting it to beat up on it and put down power a lot. But I can be wrong, deffinately not the smartest person around, but I have worked on my fair amount of these cars and would say I have a good understanding of what works AND last and what just works.

Ummm, I dd my 581awhp gsx and have for the past 3 years with the same setup, as for my roommate with the 551awhp 35r, he drives his 3 times a week. He did dd it but got an accord cause he wanted ac. It can be done.
 
thank u very much i should have included i was going to buy the fmic, and internals, and cams. heard alot about the 272's... theres not any good shops for dsm's around my area, but if u do find them there $$$. Back to the subject, i was hoping to achieve the 475ish mark. But unfortunately the VA FU*!ed my real bad and set back my project start. Now i have to take the insurance off of it because i cant afford to replace my blown turbo!! But im not givin up!!:hellyeah:
 
Good that you're not giving up.


But unfortunately, I have to close this due to bench racing.
 
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