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Has anyone ran a Comp Turbo(innovative Turbo)??

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AM3LJ

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Just wanted to know how these turbos compare to other popular turbo brands? Im interested in buying a ct467 but i just never heard of them. So an info would be great! thanks.

Also if you know of any other turbo that would compare to it for under 1000 just let me know.
 
Hello, I can see you are interested in buying a bigger turbo. From what you're profile says which means you're dsm is basically stock, you really have no use for something this big yet. From what I have gathered this turbo you are looking into is perfect for up to 700 hp, so it may be a little much right now, you may want to look into a company called Hahnracecraft.com or anyone else who carries a 16 G turbo. Plenty of guys with 300-450 hp run big 16G's on their cars.
 
Sorry i haven't updated my profile. the bottom end is built and the head will have a port and polish job with dual valve springs with bc 280's. I just wanted to know if anyone has used a turbo from compturbo.com . I guess they used to be called innovative turbo but not sure.
 
As you can see a lot of people on this site may not have much experience with that particular turbo, why do you look into something in the lines of a 20G turbo. There is a lot of people who run these turbo's and it will be a lot easier for you to get help and support.

I am not trying to steer you away from anything though.

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There are two people in my area that have purchased turbo's from COMP Turbo and the craftsmanship is awesome. :hellyeah:
 
I run a triple ball bearing 70mm in a divided .70AR T4 housing. It spools faster then my old DBB67 with an .84 T3 housing. Another feature that I really like is the aluminum center section to keep the weight down(less stress on ex manifold). Plus there's no guess work when it comes to using an oil restrictor as Comp Turbo builds it right into the CHRA.

As strange as it sounds, they are testing out some coolant only turbos! Thats right, no OIL at all!!!
 
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I see just another turbo brand that dares not to be different and bases everything they build off of the Garrett T3 design, which has been around since the beginning of time and has been proven unreliable time and and again on DSMs.
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Sure ball bearing turbos are more reliable than journal bearing turbos when treated properly, but does NOBODY do a little R&D and come up with their own efficient and reliable center housing design anymore? How much fun would it be to drive a car that is a brand new 1965 model which weighs three tons and comes complete with four drum brakes? Even though it is brand new, how would that car compete against technology of today that weighs half as much, has four less cylinders, and makes twice the power?

Even their "extended tip" turbos are a direct copy of the BW compressor wheels:

http://compturbo.com/spotlight/Extended Tip Compressor Wheels.php

No matter how hard they try to be different, Comp appears to be just another design fraud in the turbo business.
 
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I see just another turbo brand that dares not to be different and bases everything they build off of the Garrett T3 design, which has been around since the beginning of time and has been proven unreliable time and and again on DSMs.
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Sure ball bearing turbos are more reliable than journal bearing turbos when treated properly, but does NOBODY do a little R&D and come up with their own efficient and reliable center housing design anymore? How much fun would it be to drive a car that is a brand new 1965 model which weighs three tons and comes complete with four drum brakes? Even though it is brand new, how would that car compete against technology of today that weighs half as much, has four less cylinders, and makes twice the power?

Even their "extended tip" turbos are a direct copy of the BW compressor wheels:

Comp Turbo

No matter how hard they try to be different, Comp appears to be just another design fraud in the turbo business.
That is incorrect. There is a ton of R&D in Comp Turbos. From their own turbine wheels and compressor wheels to their TBB chra. They are not based off a Garret T3 turbo ROFL.

This explains it a tad bit better.
Comp Turbo
 
They are not based off a Garret T3 turbo ROFL.
The photo I posted is a Garrett T3 in each and every way. Care to explain how it's different?
This explains it a tad bit better.
Comp Turbo
I could post technical data for any turbine wheel's design and make it sound like my own, original design.

Turbonetics also has their own-design turbine wheels; many with less blades than a Garrett of equal size....but it's STILL a Garrett-based wheel with identical spec to a Garrett part. Is Turbonetics an innovator by taking Garrett wheels and redesigning them with less blades to make them more efficient at higher boost level? Not really.

Borg Warner extended-tip compressors are probably the most efficient wheels in their size frame based on efficient design on Borg Warner's part. By Comp using BW's design, they're copying what is already proven instead of daring to be different.

I still see a fraud.
 
from what it looks like the compressor housing looks like my 57 trim turbonetics for the dsm. and the exhaust housing looks like my greddy t88 on my supra cause of the bolt pattern but i gotta say the comp turbos look like good turbos. i guess if i got a good enough deal on one id try it out.
 
The way your train of thought is Garrett stole their design of the turbine wheel from Alfred Büchi so they to are a fraud. They made it different and it work so does it really matter. What you are saying makes absolutely no sense, proves nothing, and is irrelevant to this thread.
Then I suppose all copyright laws are total bullshit, and everyone should just copy someone else's design and call it their own. Well said. :applause:

My point is that Comp is doing nothing to reinvent the wheel here....they're using a Garrett CHRA design that is already proven unreliable time and again in journal bearing form when used at high boost levels, only they're installing their own ball bearing cartridge and acting like it's some amazing new product when it's nothing more than a ball bearing Garrett.
 
Hey spoolin your google copy and paste answers just dont cut it. Your talking to a guy that rebuilds them daily. You may want to have some solid info before making claims like you have. So far the only useless posts have been yours.

If i put a different shell on my toaster can i sell them as my own?
 
I run a triple ball bearing 70mm in a divided .70AR T4 housing. It spools faster then my old DBB67 with an .84 T3 housing. Another feature that I really like is the aluminum center section to keep the weight down(less stress on ex manifold). Plus there's no guess work when it comes to using an oil restrictor as Comp Turbo builds it right into the CHRA.

As strange as it sounds, they are testing out some coolant only turbos! Thats right, no OIL at all!!!

That would be airfoil bearing. Which, by the way, holset has already implemented. So still nothing really new here. . .

WRT, restrictors built into the housing, MHI does the same thing and you can still over-oil them. Again, nothing really new.
 
That is incorrect. There is a ton of R&D in Comp Turbos. From their own turbine wheels and compressor wheels to their TBB chra. They are not based off a Garret T3 turbo ROFL.
But you don't actually work there yourself . . . or do you? To actually verify the "ton of R&D". What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Yes I agree. You have yet to contribute anything relevent yourself. Just links to words from an engineer savvy in sales. Slip factor has long been exploited: see the 14b and the high blade count Holsets. There are some distinct negatives to high blade count not mentioned by the article with which you so blessed us.

Take a look at that picture he posted. You most certainly can see the vane count. And NO! it is NOT higher than any other turbo out there and lower than most. Where's all the R&D in encouraging better slip factor, increasing blade count, while negating some of the consequences when there is no increase in blade count in the first place. No one is looking at the covers. There's giant holes in them to see the meat of the turbomachinery.

And, for heaven sake! They call the turbine wheels and compressors by the same name: "P-trim", "60-1", etc.
 
Which turbo will you be running from them? If your dyno results are on par with the garrett name which is the same, then you will prove what? There's another vendor selling 1970s garrett tech? Subscribing to this thread. We'll be waiting.
 
If he hasn't tore apart and rebuilt a comp Turbo that statement is irrelevant.
So Comp is no better than the Chinese companies that steal a Garrett, Holset, or BW design entirely but change one small thing (in Comp's case, the ball-bearing cartridge) in order to squeak past copyright laws?

Here's a good question for you....which one's the real Garrett, and which one's the Chinese turbo?

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Better yet, what's the visual difference between the center housing of the Comp CT350 and a Garrett 50-Trim? Aside from Comp's ball bearing internals, it's obviously a blatant copy of a turbo that has been around since the dawn of time.

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Hopefully it would atleast be a tamper resistant dynojet. And either way, you really need a trap speed with weight to back it up. But again, if you make comparable results as several garrett setups with the same name turbo, you're just proving it to be a copy. Again, they even name the wheels the same as the old 70s garrett T3 and t4 series wheels.

You havn't stated which "innovative" turbo you're using. . .
 
We can go back and forth all day. I'll be back wihen I get my dyno sheet.
Sounds good to me. Be sure you also install a Garrett journal bearing turbo with the same wheel spec so we have a baseline. I'm humored when guys are proven wrong who think ball bearing turbos will generate more airflow than a journal bearing turbo with an identical wheel spec.
 
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