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Electrical Gurus Needed- Not enough power to ecu

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VETTE_50_TH

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Jun 24, 2004
Columbus, Ohio
Ok. Ill start from the beginning. We took out the old harness and replaced it with a harness we removed all the unnecessary plugs from. We removed them directly and fully de-pinned the ecu plugs. We also rewired the fuel pump and relocated the battery to the back.

Now, we go to start the car because we finally finished the engine bay and we dont get any fuel. We find that I didnt rewire the ground correctly. Fix that. Nothing. We find that the car isnt sparking. We found a ground we missed and still nothing. We think it might be the mpi/fuel pump relays. Nada. All checks out.

Then we find that the ecu is only getting 2.7V at pin 12 and 25, but the rest of the car is getting the 12V from the battery, including the backup power for the ecu, fuel pump, etc.

This is also where it gets confusing. The car starts when we jump the relay and the ecu finally kicks on. We are jumping pin 38 which is the MPI relay control. We know this because we get the CEL like we are suppose to. Then we can start the car. Next, we try to connect evoscan to the car, but it says less than 5V, cannot connect. That data pin is pin 62.

Finally, we realize that all these pins we are having trouble with go directly to the chassis harness under the dash. What is up there that could be causing this.

The way the owner before i had fixed this is by using another relay between the two mpi and fuel relays. Thats how he was able to jump the car. Im guessing the car has a bad ground up there or something because the ecu is getting some power. Just not enough.

Please give me any thoughts or recommendations.
 
If you can jump the relay connector and fire it up then either the relay is bad like I said before (carbon on contacts) or there is a problem with a relay coil (trigger) wire. See why power is not going through the relay.
 
Like i said though, we tested the relays buy applying 12 v to one side, and tested with the multimeter that there is nearly no resistance on the other side.
 
Everything checks out as far as voltages at proper wires except for pin 38. It has battery power with the key off but when we turn the key on it doesnt ground like it is supposed to. Any ideas what would cause pin 38 to not go to ground? If manually grounded the relay clicks over and power goes to the ecu and we are able to start the car.
 
I might be able to. I cant believe that this ecu works perfectly except it wont draw down power on that pin.

Also, the openport cable doesnt work anymore. It lights up but evoscan says im getting only .3v. And it needs 5v. I have no idea where that draw could be coming from.
 
I hope you figure it out, getting my wiring all done now i hope, testing to make sure everything works. I think im good. Vic
 
I spoke with steve through pm and he said its my ecu. Which makes sense. The ecu isnt pulling pin 36 to ground like it should. And the ecu knows the ignition is working properly because the ecu gets 12V at pin 82 when you turn on the ignition. So im putting my evo ecu in.
 
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