pneumagger
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- Sep 13, 2009
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St. Pete Beach,
Florida
Dash lights all lit up and interior power... with keys OUT of ignition.
So I recently changed my head gasket and when I got everything back together, I plug the battery terminals up and instantly hear things start clicking to life. Odd.
I walk around and look into the interior of the car and the keys are on the seat. Battery, radiator, oil, brake, and AFC lights are all powered on. Even the automatic seat belts function when I open the door. All with the keys out of the car.
I can start the engine and it runs... all new fluids and everything is hoked up. What the heck is up? Obviously this in unacceptable as the battery will die if I dash lights and AFC are powered up with the car "off".
Only thing I can think of I did get some power steering fluid drip down onto the alternator when removing that. That should not affect anything.
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New development:
I noticed the "short" only happened when I connected the terminal wire with the 3 fuses on it. I pulled each fuse indivually to see which circuit the short was in. When I pulled the MPI fuse the dash lights turned off and the car seemed normal for being "turned off". Just to see what would happen, expecting the motor to simply turn over dry, I inserted the key and hit the starter. The car started and revved just fine with no MPI fuse inserted.
Whishky Tango Foxtrot!?!
HOWEVER... when I pulled the MPI fuse (while doing a compression test before starting the HG replacement) I noticed the MPI fuse had a rattling noise and the little resistor broke free - it was clearly broken and not blown. I figured I had broke it while removing/handling it and replaced it with a new 20A fuse while doing the HG. At this point the only logical logical assumption would be I did not break the original fuse I had noticed and replaced. It must've been already broken and "normal" operation was lacking an MPI fuse (or a functional fuse anyways).
Is this normal? Does the SAFC replace the MPI fuse somehow?
How is it even possible that the car can run with no MPI fuse?
So I recently changed my head gasket and when I got everything back together, I plug the battery terminals up and instantly hear things start clicking to life. Odd.
I walk around and look into the interior of the car and the keys are on the seat. Battery, radiator, oil, brake, and AFC lights are all powered on. Even the automatic seat belts function when I open the door. All with the keys out of the car.
I can start the engine and it runs... all new fluids and everything is hoked up. What the heck is up? Obviously this in unacceptable as the battery will die if I dash lights and AFC are powered up with the car "off".
Only thing I can think of I did get some power steering fluid drip down onto the alternator when removing that. That should not affect anything.
______________________________________________________
New development:
I noticed the "short" only happened when I connected the terminal wire with the 3 fuses on it. I pulled each fuse indivually to see which circuit the short was in. When I pulled the MPI fuse the dash lights turned off and the car seemed normal for being "turned off". Just to see what would happen, expecting the motor to simply turn over dry, I inserted the key and hit the starter. The car started and revved just fine with no MPI fuse inserted.
Whishky Tango Foxtrot!?!
HOWEVER... when I pulled the MPI fuse (while doing a compression test before starting the HG replacement) I noticed the MPI fuse had a rattling noise and the little resistor broke free - it was clearly broken and not blown. I figured I had broke it while removing/handling it and replaced it with a new 20A fuse while doing the HG. At this point the only logical logical assumption would be I did not break the original fuse I had noticed and replaced. It must've been already broken and "normal" operation was lacking an MPI fuse (or a functional fuse anyways).
Is this normal? Does the SAFC replace the MPI fuse somehow?
How is it even possible that the car can run with no MPI fuse?