Counterfeit Holset Turbos

dsm-onster · May 1, 2009

Yea. A holset failure now has to now go through holset authentication even to be seen as a holset failure. Sucks really. Free market ftl :notgood:

Your REAL holset will have to prove itself. At least we know it's real. . .

gstryyder · May 1, 2009

i think if i can get away with buying that one you listed dsm-onster for like 1$ with free shipping,i am gonna do it. NOT TO USE IT!!! but just to see exactly the differences between real and fake so we can explain a bit more as to why NOT to buy these. good idea or bad idea? what do you guys think? ### right now it is .01$ with free shipping.
strictly for testing purposes as it will never be resold by me or go on a car...

i don't feel like paying much more then pocket change for it though since it will be used for just research purposes.
anyone? :confused:

dsm-onster · May 1, 2009

It's your dime spill it

gstryyder · May 1, 2009

hehe.. i will see what i can do. =) fun stuff

knochgoon24 · May 4, 2009

dsm-onster said:
More counterfit boldness. Thanx to SkylinesSuck for the heads up.

Wuxi, China turbocharger production base

holset with production base in Wuxi

There are many in Wuxi turbocharger manufacturers

High quality low price

If you need to contact me please and tell me models

I will give you price

We can provide HOLSET turbo-charger and some other own-brand turbo-chargers produced by some local OEM manufacturers (with more favorable price)

About this Wuxi, China thing...
www.cummins.com/turbos - China

It seems that Holset does have a Chinese plant, and several other foreign ones too.

Name:
Wuxi Cummins Turbo Technologies Co. Ltd

Location:
Located in the most developed economic region in China - the Yangtze River Delta Development Zone

Activities:
Turbocharger manufacture, aftermarket parts supply, technical centre
Other facts:

Established in February 1996, Wuxi Cummins Turbo Technologies Co. Ltd is a 55:45 partnership between Cummins Turbo Technologies and Wuxi Power Engineering Co. Ltd. In 2004 they moved to a purpose built, world class facility consisting of a turbocharger manufacturing plant, a technology centre and an aftermarket business. It is located in the New Development Zone in Wuxi City.

In June 2008, Wuxi Cummins Turbo Technologies second facility and technical centre were finished, which extends the company capacity and capability.
Enjoying a leading position in the Chinese turbocharger market, Wuxi Holset serves an extensive customer base including leading Chinese truck manufacturers DFM and FAW. Also have a strong presence in the aftermarket.
Contact Address:

Wuxi Cummins Turbo Technologies Co. Ltd
28#, Xinxi Road
Wuxi New District, Jiangsu PRC (214028)
China
Tel: + 86 510 85200800
Fax: + 86 510 85200899
Email : [email protected]
Web: ¿µÃ÷Ë¹ÖÐ¹úÍøÕ¾

Maybe that "procurement information" was saying they could get genuine Holsets from the Wuxi plant along with other brands from other turbocharger plants in Wuxi.

Some other Wuxi turbo plants (non-Holset):

Wuxi Hosel Turbocharger Manufacturing Co., Ltd
Wuxi Mingzhu Turbocharger Manufacturing Co.Ltd
Wuxi Turbo Auto Power Co., Ltd.(Hobest Turbocharger Works)
Wuxi Tonglint Industries Co., Ltd
JRONE TECHNOLOGY(WUXI)CO.,LTD
Wuxi Wandi Foundry Co.,ltd
Wuxi Jiashun Turbocharger Manufactory

Just to name a few... and most of them make a turbo very similar to the Holset ones.

JunkMan 58 · May 26, 2009

I know I'm new and somewhat late to the party, but I was looking through the thread and took a look at the Holset site and found this pdf. http://www.myholsetturbo.com/images/holsetcounterfeitprevention.pdf It has pictures to help people (people like me) figure out what a fake turbo looks like when compared to an original.

On a side note, this site really helped me find the info I was looking for. A lot of intelligent individuals here.

dsm-onster · May 27, 2009

Great .pdf!

JusMX141 · Aug 5, 2009

Houston, we have Chinese HX35's.

Dodge Turbo HX35W Diesel Turbocharger Cummins 94-UP HX35

Figures the dumbasses would copy the 8-blade compressor instead of the 7. Hooray for old technology!

dsm-onster · Aug 5, 2009

!!!! Well. I wonder when they will copy the bolton housing

That will be interesting.

akisman1 · Sep 4, 2009

Hi everybody,

I am a new member here and as i was searching this great forum i found this..
Before 2 months i bought from a forum member a holset HX40W which now i think is fake, could somebody take a look at this please?

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Thanks..

JusMX141 · Sep 4, 2009

Looks like an imitation to me....the "NX" on the compressor cover, the squeeze clamps on the wastegate hose, and that turbine wheel looks much smaller than a real HX40 turbine.

MAX420 · Sep 4, 2009

, There is no winning on E-bay. They make replica's of EVERYTHING.

kawboy · Sep 4, 2009

That's a fake!

fastfive0 · Sep 4, 2009

i agree. That looks nothing like my hx-40

Rob10_99 · Sep 4, 2009

Anyone know how holset casts their housings? VS the asian's process's?
Like oil sand or lost core ect,

dsm-onster · Sep 5, 2009

Is it a twin scroll turbine housing? That's harder to make. . . It's a t3 boltpattern at the inlet. . .

There's a compressor surge port cover and the actuator looks legit. That's alot of manufacturign money to sink in to a $300 fake. . .

That compressor inlet still looks like no hx40 I've ever seen.

MAX420 · Sep 5, 2009

Serial on a real one.

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Turbine housing.

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akisman1 · Sep 8, 2009

dsm-onster said:
Is it a twin scroll turbine housing? That's harder to make. . . It's a t3 boltpattern at the inlet. . .

There's a compressor surge port cover and the actuator looks legit. That's alot of manufacturign money to sink in to a $300 fake. . .

That compressor inlet still looks like no hx40 I've ever seen.

Yes it is a twin scroll turbine housing with T3 inlet..

rush2252 · Sep 8, 2009

dsm-onster said:
Well, Holsets are English

Let's nip this in the bud. There's a difference in namesake and forgery. Give the consumer with 1/2 of his brain in coherence a chance to buy what he really wants. IF he wants to take a chance thats fine. They should call it an "hx40 GT" however. Not lie.

Holy cow I think I found some interweb portal OMG

... I followed your link which took me to another link which brought me back to this link

Lmfao

dsm-onster · Sep 8, 2009

That's funny. Didn't see it that way

Just letting everyone who reads THIS thread that I posted this information in the latest holset info thread. LOTs of people look at that thread. Many non-members or new members.

red1993gsallmt · Sep 10, 2009

akisman1 said:
Hi everybody,

I am a new member here and as i was searching this great forum i found this..
Before 2 months i bought from a forum member a holset HX40W which now i think is fake, could somebody take a look at this please?

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Look at the top of the wastegate acuator (see how its indented) then look at the link to holsets counterfit prevention page(post 80 on page 3).My turbo has nx on it also but your compressor wheel looks small and the wastegate is a giveaway to a fake.

Raymos24 · Oct 14, 2009

Hey guys I was wondering if my Holset H1e looks to be the real thing. I bought it about a year ago from a member who was parting his eclipse to fund his sti. Here are some pics. It already has the BEP bolt-on housing installed in the pictures. When I bought it, the guy had told me that it was brand new and that it had cost 1100 dollars with the housing. Thanks for any input

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JusMX141 · Oct 14, 2009

There are no known "H1" knockoffs. That would be a step backward for the Chinese as the H1 turbos are an older generation, although nothing would surprise me at this point.

dsm-onster · Oct 14, 2009

Are you sure that's an h1e? The compressor cover has no MWE. What are the major and minor diameters of the wheels?

Raymos24 · Oct 14, 2009

The turbo is already on the car so I am not able to measure it. If I was to take it off I probably could. I am switching manifolds so maybe I will be able to measure it then. What exactly are the MWE grooves? It is in a Bullseye housing so hopefully its an H1e LOL

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