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Get an exhaust side off a 16g (or 14b if you're trying to do it cheap.)

If you bought an Ebay turbo then it might be flanged differently (t3/t4 is popular with the honda guys) but if it's a genuine MHI turbo then all you have to do is hook it up and run an oil line from the head instead of the oil filter housing (not required, but STRONGLY recommended)

Thanks for the reply, based on the part # it is a genuine MHI turbo (from the reading on the internet) .... But why is it by just looking and comparing the wastegate seems to be facing the rear when the j-pipe doesn't even go tward the direction of the sidemount ?

The j-pipe is most likely set up to run short route FMIC piping. When the turbo is installed, this kind of setup has the j-pipe run down towards the driver side against the radiator, and then turn towards the front of the car and through one hole or another in the front of the frame.

OK, simple question ...

Is it possible to bolt on a Evo 3 Big 16g turbo to a stock t25 exhaust side ? Seems like everything is judt reversed as if it came off a 420a or something.


Thanks,
Mike

Pictures would help.

You also need an install kit for that turbo. look at extremepsi.com they have some kits for a 16g on 2g's

Ebay has 16g hotsides for under $100

poppabear said:

OK, simple question ...

Is it possible to bolt on a Evo 3 Big 16g turbo to a stock t25 exhaust side ? Seems like everything is judt reversed as if it came off a 420a or something.


Thanks,
Mike

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Nope. PM jusmx141. He might have a hotside to ship to you. I just installed a small 16g this weekend.

You need the 1g oil feed from the head and the j-pipe. Then 4 M10 (oil feed) and 4 M14 (coolant feed/return) crush washers.

You can use your o2 housing, your water lines (just bend them slowly) and your oil return (grind the bolt hole narrower).

You'll also want to pick up some 3/8" heater hose tubing (for the coolant) since the old stuff is probably pretty hard.

-Wes

i hope u didnt bought those ebay (china made) turbos. they will go out after a short use.

No, you can't bolt a 16g to a T25 turbine housing. 16g has a much bigger turbine wheel and the center section uses a clamp not 4 bolts like the T25. Forget it, you need a 7 cm turbine housing for a DSM. I've got a used one if your interested.

RadDsm said:

Ebay has 16g hotsides for under $100

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Can you link me .... Can't seem to find any on Ebay ??

dsm eclipse 16g td05h 7mc2 turbine housing turbo:eBay Motors (item 290325316423 end time Jun-25-09 15:42:28 PDT)Here it is

AWD Night rider said:

dsm eclipse 16g td05h 7mc2 turbine housing turbo:eBay Motors (item 290325316423 end time Jun-25-09 15:42:28 PDT)Here it is

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ok, Now if i bought this hotside, will i have no issues bolting it on my car and being able to run it ?


I know i would have to run lower boost levels until i get the supporting fuel mods and logger. My question is that i run 10psi atm and just seems like the car doesn't pull much at all. if i run a evo3 big 16g at 10psi 1) will it be safe without fuel cut 2) will it be a noticable increase in power/pull compared to a t25 at 10psi ?

I have plans to upgrade all my stock parts before i increase boost any more than say 14psi, but until then would love an increase for the time being.

Thanks,
Mike

EDIT: did some research and came across this very easy to follow guide EVO 16G Install on a 2G Eclipse

Seems tho it will fit just fine ... thanks to all that have helped me with this. I will post back when i have installed it and post results.

poppabear said:

ok, Now if i bought this hotside, will i have no issues bolting it on my car and being able to run it ?


I know i would have to run lower boost levels until i get the supporting fuel mods and logger. My question is that i run 10psi atm and just seems like the car doesn't pull much at all. if i run a evo3 big 16g at 10psi 1) will it be safe without fuel cut 2) will it be a noticable increase in power/pull compared to a t25 at 10psi ?

I have plans to upgrade all my stock parts before i increase boost any more than say 14psi, but until then would love an increase for the time being.

Thanks,
Mike

EDIT: did some research and came across this very easy to follow guide EVO 16G Install on a 2G Eclipse

Seems tho it will fit just fine ... thanks to all that have helped me with this. I will post back when i have installed it and post results.

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Running 10 psi will be ok for now on stock fuel system and yes, it will pull harder than the T25.

juanpac0 said:

Search, this topic has been covered many times.

Get an exhaust side off a 16g (or 14b if you're trying to do it cheap.)

If you bought an Ebay turbo then it might be flanged differently (t3/t4 is popular with the honda guys) but if it's a genuine MHI turbo then all you have to do is hook it up and run an oil line from the head instead of the oil filter housing (not required, but STRONGLY recommended)

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Is it better to go from the side of the head instead of the oil filter housing what are the pros and cons to this because I'm about to go to a ported 16G.

I ran the oil feed off the head on my 2g 16g install. I had the oil feed to the filter housing but it is just another stainless braided hydraulic line I have to worry about flopping around everywhere and getting in my way. The 1g oil feed line is a super clean install to boot. If the factory ran off the head on a 1g with a TD05H center section for 6 years or so, then I wouldn't give it a second thought myself.

pboglio said:

I ran the oil feed off the head on my 2g 16g install. I had the oil feed to the filter housing but it is just another stainless braided hydraulic line I have to worry about flopping around everywhere and getting in my way. The 1g oil feed line is a super clean install to boot. If the factory ran off the head on a 1g with a TD05H center section for 6 years or so, then I wouldn't give it a second thought myself.

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Any guides to doing this ? I'm not sure where you would hook up a oil feed line from the head ?

Thanks,
Mike

Feeding the oil from the head is usually required for bigger turbo's with ball bearings that need less pressure. With a 16g i would still do the normal feeding from the oil filter housing. You can find a 16g install kit for cheap with j pipe and all. If all you need is a stainless oil feed line, you can get the 24" and the fitting that will screw on the filter housing. You should be ok .

Phantom DSM said:

Feeding the oil from the head is usually required for bigger turbo's with ball bearings that need less pressure. With a 16g i would still do the normal feeding from the oil filter housing. You can find a 16g install kit for cheap with j pipe and all. If all you need is a stainless oil feed line, you can get the 24" and the fitting that will screw on the filter housing. You should be ok .

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"Normal" feeding for the 14b and 16g is from the head, I think Mitsu knew what they were doing considering MHI designed the turbo for their cars.

When i mentioned feeding from the head for bigger turbos, it was meant to explain the necessity for those turbo's. Most install kits come with the feed lines to go to the filter housing. There is no need to feed feed from head if feeding from filter housing is sufficient. He has a choice, lets forget about the normal and just use what is more practical to get the job done.

Phantom DSM said:

When i mentioned feeding from the head for bigger turbos, it was meant to explain the necessity for those turbo's. Most install kits come with the feed lines to go to the filter housing. There is no need to feed feed from head if feeding from filter housing is sufficient. He has a choice, lets forget about the normal and just use what is more practical to get the job done.

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MHI turbos were designed to be fed from the head research it. Sometimes lack of oil isnt what kills them but over oiling.

You could always install a restrictor valve in the pressure side to reduce flow, Filter housing would be cleaner oil, but there entails the routing of the line and supposed higher pressures associated with it. The OEM is fed off head - so stick with the DSM engineers. If i where running a large turbo I personally would bring the feed from as close to the pump as possible... The O/P has to pressurize the crank before it feeds the cams (Valvetrain) and excess for feeding the turbo, Upper engine will starve if you spin bearings or O/P takes a sh*t! Food for thought.

Thanks guys for all the help...