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14b or evo 3 gt?

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m0nk3estylez

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Feb 10, 2009
stockton, California
I just blew my t25 and I was wondering which one should I try.
14b & evo 3 gt that I have in the garaged
 
I would go with the stock turbo just port it.The knok-off mite just fall apart on you.
 
I would go with the stock turbo just port it.The knok-off mite just fall apart on you.

I was thinking of trying the knock off since it came with this 6bolt motor I bought from a wreck 2g at the junk yard.
Seems like the first owner had it running for a bit don't know how much miles he put on the evo 3 knock off tho.
 
I just blew my t25 and I was wondering which one should I try.
14b & evo 3 gt that I have in the garaged

Is this even serious? Have a little respect for your car--if you want to make power and be reliable, then don't use piece of shit chinese turbos. Either enjoy your nice 14b (which can propel you to 12 second 1/4 miles without weight reduction) or buy a real Evo III 16g to put on your car.

My 2 psi.
 
Well i ran 13.2 at 110 at 20psi yesterday on that piece of shit btw... I mean honestly if the ebay breaks its honestly a longer job to let the car cool down than to switch out the turbos... Im fully spooled by 3k. Im looking at 12s with a better tune and 24 psi next time :)
 
If you do the evo 3 you will need a bigger fuel pump, rewire kit, AFPR (depending on the pump), bigger injectors (at least 550s) and an safc or some sort of tuning device. With the 14b all you need is a j pipe and you're set. Why spend all that money for an ebay turbo? Just go 14b it pulls hard and people run 10s on them.
 
Are you serious^^^... Why would you need that to run that turbo LOL... Put the boost at 10lbs and you can sit WOT for as long as you want... Im trying to diss anyone but evo IIIs came with 510cc injectors and not much of a bigger fuel pump and the stock boost was 15lbs atleast...

Put the damn ebay turbo on and start putting fuel mods on... IT will only make it that much better with each fuel mod you do...
 
Well me personally I wouldn't run that turbo on stock injectors at 15 psi. Since i get fuel cut when its 70 degrees out side with my 14b. So I would stick with putting a 14b on the car just for reliability and not blowing up your engine.
 
Well i ran 13.2 at 110 at 20psi yesterday on that piece of shit btw... I mean honestly if the ebay breaks its honestly a longer job to let the car cool down than to switch out the turbos... Im fully spooled by 3k. Im looking at 12s with a better tune and 24 psi next time :)

Congrats, you can run 13s on a near stock car with a 14b if you wanted to as well. Your turbo is also equally likely to come apart and suck little pieces of the turbine blades straight into your intake, FUBARing your intercooler/intake and perhaps your cylinder head! What fun!

Don't cheap out on chinese shit on important stuff like this. Ebay parts have their place, but turbos are not one of those things.
 
Are you serious^^^... Why would you need that to run that turbo LOL... Put the boost at 10lbs and you can sit WOT for as long as you want... Im trying to diss anyone but evo IIIs came with 510cc injectors and not much of a bigger fuel pump and the stock boost was 15lbs atleast...

Put the damn ebay turbo on and start putting fuel mods on... IT will only make it that much better with each fuel mod you do...

Yeah cause running 10lbs on an evo3 16g is quite a thrill. :notgood: Trust me if you want to run high boost and break your neck then do the setup I just mentioned. People like viperlp (not trying to diss anyone) would keep everything stock to save money and go slow. You don't just slap on an e316g and have at it.
 
15k miles and still no shaft play. But you can believe who every you want man. I mean yes the 14b is a good turbo dont get me wrong but what ever.. It seems like everyone likes to run stock turbos when you have a considerable upgrade right in your face but what ever... Good luck with you build..

p.s. 2slow4utsi- Please keep your comments to yourself. You have no idea about anything yet. You joined last month and giving people bad advise is bad... Did you know that an e3 at 10 lbs flows as much air as 14b at say 13-14 lbs??? So that means lower boost= lower intake temps= lower engine wear... And the 14b can go 13s well excuse me high 13s with no modifications to it like porting, clipping ect..( You might need to search what that stuff does)... Boost is just a number, CFMs is what counts...

Lonewolf64- Ummm i will let you know when i run 12s at 24 lbs with 12.0 A/F... Damn that is pretty hot isn't it and still no shaft play.... 250 dollars installed.. Damn i can buy two of these before i buy an MHI... I mean if i had the money of course, why not got with a true E3 but I am very impressed with this turbo so far. LOL what a feat for those peices of metal making it into my head.Thats quite a long route haha... especially if the turbine exploded and it is no longer forcing air....OO ya i dont see a time from you??? What do u run on the MHI 16g???
 
15k miles and still no shaft play. But you can believe who every you want man. I mean yes the 14b is a good turbo dont get me wrong but what ever.. It seems like everyone likes to run stock turbos when you have a considerable upgrade right in your face but what ever... Good luck with you build..

p.s. 2slow4utsi- Please keep your comments to yourself. You have no idea about anything yet. You joined last month and giving people bad advise is bad... Did you know that an e3 at 10 lbs flows as much air as 14b at say 13-14 lbs??? So that means lower boost= lower intake temps= lower engine wear... And the 14b can go 13s well excuse me high 13s with no modifications to it like porting, clipping ect..( You might need to search what that stuff does)... Boost is just a number, CFMs is what counts...

Lonewolf64- Ummm i will let you know when i run 12s at 24 lbs with 12.0 A/F... Damn that is pretty hot isn't it and still no shaft play.... 250 dollars installed.. Damn i can buy two of these before i buy an MHI... I mean if i had the money of course, why not got with a true E3 but I am very impressed with this turbo so far. LOL what a feat for those peices of metal making it into my head.Thats quite a long route haha... especially if the turbine exploded and it is no longer forcing air....OO ya i dont see a time from you??? What do u run on the MHI 16g???

What everyone is saying is not to take chances. Ebay turbos are not reliable. Just because you happen to get one that does not justify risking taking the chance of f--king your own car. Say he installs that ebay turbo and it does send metal into the head and he has to do a head job for it. that money is not coming out of your pocket to fix his car. I wouldn't take the chance. and your compressor doesn't have to explode it could just have enough shaft play to scrape the housing chipping the blade where it will surely have enough force to make it to the head because it will still be generating boost. I myself have been though several engines in a year and I sure as hell wouldn't run the risk of my turbo breaking and putting my car down again.

To each his own but if you want to take the risk then thats all you but i wouldn't advise others to run that risk also. One other thing people have run 12's on 14'b at higher boot levels with mild cams fmic and all other things required for more boost.

I do understand the difference between boost and cfm even though you may be running less boost your flowing more air. which has more density in really your putting the same amount of stress on the engine.

not being an ass but don't give people bad advice knowing more times than not an ebay turbo is not worth shit.
 
How about giving advice on a a turbo like the evo3 gt 16g by someone who actually ran the turbo? (something new). I "slapped" an evo 3 gt with nothing more than a 190 fuel pump and ran it at 15psi. No problems. Car ran hard and never gave me problems. Anything above 15psi and you will most likely run into fuel cut though. I don't know if its different, but I bought mine (evo3gt16g on my last car) from turbochargers.com. The ebay ones may be different.
 
Honestly guys, I don't think it's necessary to get nasty like some of the comments above. Some people want to run only the best parts - some people run with what they can afford. In the end, if they are happy with their parts, then that's all that matters. I think everyone knows that there are some inherent risks associated with eBay parts and the people buying them accept that risk. Some people will undoubtedly get burned, and you'll have some people that run 15K miles without any problems. My point is your mileage will vary. Make your recommendations and if they choose the path you don't agree with, best thing you can do is just support them as best you can :thumb:
 
What else do you suggest he does with the E3GT?

Depending on when you purchased it, they supposedly had some better quality ones. There was a guy running 11's with an ebay 16g, I don't remember if it failed, and if so, how it did. Jusmx suggests that they would be reliable turbos if they had proper bearings in them and a balance, but at that point you may as well have gotten a real MHI 16g.

If it explodes, it might hit your intercooler, but the only parts that will get there will have to be small enough to come out of the compressor outlet. Unless it breaks the housing. Odds are very good you'll see it die on your boost gauge long before anything catastrophic happens. There is also that risk inherent in ANY device that spins that fast, from a brand new garret, to a cheap ebay turbo, if someone had a hangover at the factory or something.
 
End result- Check shaft play weekly. That 14b probaly has over 100k miles and the 16g under 10k... They both CAN be close to the end of their lives. I would take caution with both... I check mine whenever i pop my hood just to see and be carefull because i am running such high boost levels and lean a/f..
 
My t25 I was running 16 psi and it has 178k on the turbo until it died out on me.
I was thinkin 14b with 7cm hotside. Well we will see when my new wastegate actuator & jpipe comes in.
 
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