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Did you read the major news flash on their homepage Don?

Is it bad that im this giddy about a software upgrade? LOL! Thomas you will be receiving my ecu as soon as your butts open up for v3 business. Plus im located close so maybe quick turnaround :sneaky:
 
And where is that group's website at?
Here.

DSM-ECU group

But I don't think you're going to find an implementation of GM MAF into the ECU. I wasn't aware of anyone else having successfully done it. There was some tinkering back a few years ago, but I'm pretty sure the effort was abandoned.

Thomas Dorris
 
If that isn't non-abandonded I don't know what is
Well, if nobody's actually done it in the four years since that topic was started then, yeah, I'd have to call it an abandoned effort.

How is dsmlink circumventing the serial IC chips baud rate? Adjusting the divisor?
It's not really "circumventing" anything. It's just configuring the UART for a different baud rate. Every UART I've seen works on the basis of a divisor to an input frequency. So, yeah, we're adjusting the divisor. That's just how UARTs work.

All quoted directly out of the standard commented dissassembly provided once again by the dsm-ecu group
Christian did a fantastic job on that, IMO. His contribution to your list was huge. But to be fair, we do contribute as well. We don't post, but when any of the long standing members e-mails us about how something works, we always do what we can to help.

The DSM community needs to remain a community if it's going to stay strong. And no matter how many commercial packages are available in any given market, there's always room for the DIY guys.

Thomas Dorris
 
Abandonded?

There's a complete HZ signal conversation chart. If that isn't non-abandonded I don't know what is :nono:.

But then again it isn't completely spoon feeding anyone, so I guess maybe your right. Cause you'd have to lock the IAT and BARO and do use the spreadsheet's conversion factors.

But I wanted to have a serious question answered. How is dsmlink circumventing the serial IC chips baud rate? Adjusting the divisor ?




All quoted directly out of the standard commented dissassembly provided once again by the dsm-ecu group

Excel spreadsheets and conversion charts do not constitute "native" support in ANY sense.

As far as "spoon feeding" it's called "giving consumers the products they want to buy". ECMTuning has succeeded where others have failed because they provide an excellent product with great customer support. If you like using toss-away chips, or hacking up your ECU to use an Ostrich, be my guest. Meanwhile, the rest of us will enjoy the cost and time benefits of ECMTunings hard work.

Thanks Tom for everything you've done over the last few years. A lot of folks owe you a LOT of beer at this point.
 
Is it bad that im this giddy about a software upgrade? LOL! Thomas you will be receiving my ecu as soon as your butts open up for v3 business. Plus im located close so maybe quick turnaround :sneaky:

Ha! i live closer! 10 minutes away! i'd be over there bug'n the crap out of them all the time if I didn't work so much and that damn restraining order.:p
 
Ha! i live closer! 10 minutes away! i'd be over there bug'n the crap out of them all the time if I didn't work so much and that damn restraining order.:p
Yeah, you're literally around the corner.... When are you going to stop by again with that nice car of yours!? I was wanting to bug you about rotating the housing on my 16G anyway. :D

Thomas Dorris
 
This thread was great for four pages and then shitted up on the fifth. Hakcenter stay out of this thread you are contributing nothing to the thread except flame bait.

Eveyone else can carry on.
 
I'm not saying that the criticisms of Hakcenter are wrong at all, I actually think they are dead on but I also think that there is room for his questions (as long as they are discussions and not attacks) as long as they are asked in the right setting (which is not here).

I am also offended by an attitude that I see as unnecessarily hostile and a product of an elitist mentality in the OSS community (which is not universal). Unfortunately I can't think of anything more that I can do than to make the suggestion of a venue change. I certainly didn't mean to suggest that Steve, Hal, twdorris or anyone else on that side of the argument was in the wrong.
 
I've been following this as well as some other threads concerning DSMlink as well as V3. I've had alot of questions as i am awaiting its release for purchase. All of which Tom has promptly answered and explained. I DONT EVEN OWN IT YET and am already highly impressed with the company itself as well as their product. Due to this i have no complaints about its cost as i feel its worth every cent. Its ridiculous how much time and effort goes into R&D on these kinds of things. Thats what your paying for, not the product.

RRE said exactly what i was thinking on a relative thread, so i thought i'd include it...

Sam@RRE
DSMtuners Supporting Vendor
Road Race Engineering

Thomas From DSMlink is a cool guy, helped out the community a lot. I don't know if you know but when he first came out with Link, people were buying it and copying his chips and reselling them for cheaper, reasons like that is why things are a secret. Thats why the DSMlink forums are private, thats why you cant just buy a DSMlink cable/adapter. Because the chips are easily copied with a eeprom burner. You aren't paying $500 for a 10cent chip and $20 cable, your paying for his long hours of development and reverse engineering the 1g/2g ecu's. Your paying for the great support on the DSMlink forums from Dave and Thomas. IMHO, DSMlink is still one of the best affordable Tuning Software bar none.
 
Thanks for deleting Tom's reply that brings truth to the critisisms that I and a few others had.
OK, what are you talking about!? Nothing I said brought any truth to anything. You came in here claiming things that never happened and then accusing us of doing things we've never even remotely done. And now you think I "brought truth" to what you were saying? That's completely delusional. Sorry.

Thomas Dorris
 
ECMLink is cross platform -- it's available on Linux, Mac, and Windows. As for "there's no dsmlink discussion board at all" you're again mistaken.

For someone who loves to criticize others, you obviously know very little about what it is you're attempting to discuss. As was requested by the board moderators, please leave this thread alone and let this thread get back on track.
 
"We have plans to port this application to other platforms, so we needed to change the name to reflect that."
That's referring to other car platforms, not guest operating systems. Thus the name change from DSMLink to ECMLink...

No linux, mac, osx, on search
If you just type linux into that wiki search box, you get the Linux install page. Same if you type mac. But, let me say ahead of time, it's not a *supported* install. We don't provide native installers on those platforms for V2 (we do for V3). They work fine, but it wasn't something we were prepared to support ourselves for V2.

For reference:

howto [ECMTuning - wiki]

you use IOSSIOSPEED, but then you need to find a library that even uses that.
Right. You either find a library that uses that (if one exists) or you modify one yourself. That's what was done quite a while ago to get DSMLink running under a Mac.

Thomas Dorris
 
You replied to the truth to my accusations disproving them. Which is the truth. I was wrong
Wait, OK, so I misread something somewhere. "brings truth to the critisisms" <- See, to me that parses as "validating the criticism". But in fact you're saying just the opposite. OK. Fair enough. I replied in haste.

I have problems not knowing what the truth is.
Then I'd like to politely suggest you ask first. Please recall your first post into this thread. It wasn't exactly asking for anything but a fight, IMO.

OK, so it seems like we can finally put this all behind us. Yes?

Thomas Dorris
 
Cross platform = Something other than 1g and 2g ECU equipped vehicles.... sigh

The V3 client is already available for Mac OS, Linux, and Windows

The reason you can't see anything on the DSMlink forums is that you have to be a registered user, and that privilege is limited to paying customers.
 
I just can't wait til V3 comes out. I will be starting my car with V2 just in time to upgrade. Hopefully you guys make enough for all that have been waiting. Maybe it will be a very merry christmas????
 
In your graph mode, why is the rpm noted twice?
I'm sorry. I don't understand the question. Oh, wait, are you talking about the units label for the RPM value? So it's labeled by name as "RPM" and then it has "rpm" as the units? Eh, it's just the way it was originally coded. No specific reason other than everything else had a "units" assigned to it. At least in V3 the user can just click on that and remove or change it if they want. Maybe someone wants to call it "Engine speed" for example. But the "units" would still be rpm. LOL

More importantly, what sensor are you using to base your load row off of
The airflow sensor.

if you wouldn't mind sharing your mathematics behind it?
The airflow section of the ECU is one of the things we've changed substantially in V3. There are core components of the factory code that we've basically redone ourselves with a roadmap to future work in mind. So I can't really get into it without really getting into it.

Thomas Dorris
 
Hopefully you guys make enough for all that have been waiting.
Well, we're going to try. We've got a guy dedicated full time to building up the hardware now. Well, full time between the ECU repair work and socketing. :(

Thomas Dorris
 
K, i got a question...

I know speed density will be unavailable with the original release of V3, but you said it will eventually come in the form of an update at a later time.

I completely understand you cant predict when, due to R&D and since you'll undoubtably run into some issues...but can you throw out a guess?

I'll even be satisfied with a vague one. I'd assume we're lookin at atleast 1 year, maybe 2? Maybe not even till a V4? (I'm sure it'll exist one day) ROFL
 
I completely understand you cant predict when, due to R&D and since you'll undoubtedly run into some issues...but can you throw out a guess?
Early '09? That's my guess. Maybe late winter/early spring. PLEASE don't hold me to it, though. The biggest problem I see isn't so much with implementation or data collection. We've got a good handle on how we want to go about it. It has more to do with how much time we'll have to work on it. I'm HOPING the V3 release will calm down after a month or so and we might have a couple hours here and there to look more into it.

The SD update as well as a number of other "future features" will be released as downloadable firmware updates. We're hoping the new architecture that allows us to release software updates to the chip will significantly reduce our release schedule. With V2, we had to really plan far, far ahead with an upgrade because the whole process was such a drain on resources. Hopefully we can release simple firmware upgrades a good bit more often. That's the plan anyway.

Thomas Dorris
 
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