Ok. To fill everyone in here. I am still in Norwalk. Billy, a close friend and family member of ours is no longer with us. We thank everyone who participated in the moment of silence at the track today. I'm sure Billy would be very grateful. Billy doesn't have much, and the few family members he has also do not have much. His friends (us) are going to do everything we can do for the funeral. If you would like to donate anything to help with the funeral costs it is greatly appreciated. He will have to be taken care of here in Norwalk and then transported to Maryland for the remaining procedures and funeral.

-This is the story-

Me, Haley, Steve, and Ron were riding in my evo. David, Chrissy (his gf), and Billy were riding in his talon. Our two cars left Best Western in search for food. Every year we head to Sandusky for a decent dinner. This time our trip to Sandusky ended tragically. David was following me while traveling down route 250. I was in the right lane and a Cavalier was traveling to my back left corner. David was behind the cavalier and attempted to switch lanes to get directly behind me. At the same moment the car ahead of me was stopped in the road suddenly. I braked suddenly to avoid collision. At this point David was changing lanes behind me, saw my brake lights, and then swerved to the right of my car to avoid collision with me. A disabled car happened to be in the shoulder when David swerved into the shoulder. He locked up his brakes and swerved into the dirt/grass to the right of the shoulder to avoid the disabled car. The car lost control and started sliding sideways. David tried to control the car without much luck. The car slid sideways in front of me and surrounding traffic. His talon continued to slide into oncoming traffic, with a few cars avoiding him. A black Toyota four-runner was unable to avoid collision- David's car was "t-boned" on the passenger side. The Toyota rolled several times before coming to a stop.

***David was not driving recklessly like some reports say. Nobody was street racing or doing anything abnormal. It could of been any of us. ***

David had a few cuts and scrapes but Chrissy and Billy were injured fairly bad. Two helo's flew them to St Vincents Mercy Hospital for treatment. Both Chrissy and Billy were in critical condition. One second the doctors told us Billy was doing great. He seemed ok at the accident but had some leg injuries. The next second the doctors informed us that we lost Billy due to internal bleeding. Steve and Billy are cousins. But Steve is his father figure. He lives with him, feeds him, clothes him, etc. The loss of Billy is like losing a son to Steve. And a very good friend of ours.

Chrissy (Davids gf) is still in critical condition but her healing process has already started. Her family is with her and we are visiting her periodically. Chrissy is a very strong girl and will pull through great. So far she is doing really well and I hope everyone will pray for her recovery.

As for all of us. Friends and Family of Billy- its hard. Its honestly the hardest thing I have ever had to deal with. I can speak for my friends and say the same. Please keep us in your prayers. Pray that Chrissy will continue a solid, healthy recovery.

Paypal for funeral cost donations:
[email protected]

Thank you all in advance for everything. The DSM community is like no other, and an event like this tears me apart. It seems like a bad dream, but I cant seem to wake up...

-Travis

TSiGoesPsSsSst said:

I met David the night before this all happened at the Best Western. He in my opinion seems to be a stand up guy. I feel incredibly bad about this whole situation. Not only was a friend lost but David has to live the rest of his life with all of this in the back of his mind. Nobody should have to endure that. My blessings are with William, his family and friends, the others involved in the accident along with David and his family/friends. Such a terrible situation.

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same here i met him the day before at best western and we were talking about how are cars are so similar. the next day we were going to go out driving and tune my car.
in the 3-4 hours i talked to him, and the 2 days we hung out he seemed like a responsible guy. talking about how he has seen things like this happen to his friends and would never do it.
i think some people are being a little hard on him. i believe he has enough on his plate right now and EVERYONE makes mistakes. some are just more fortunate than others.
i hope the absolute best for David and Christiana. and my condolences to William bowman a true testament to how short life can really be(17).
this was a terrible tragedy and i am glad to see as i thought it had nothing to do with any form of racing.
if there is anything i can do David just let me know

David, I truthfully feel bad for not being able to be there and try to help man. Call me and let me know what I can do to help man.

The people in the SUV that hit the DSM are actually friends of mine. I didn't know it was them until yesterday morning. They are both ok for the most part. Just bumped & bruised with a couple broken bones.

No matter what the story is an innocent passenger lost his life.

Its a sad situation none the less no matter what the story / truth is.... My condolences & prayers to the kids family for their loss. RIP

somdturbo said:

Paypal for funeral cost donations:
[email protected]

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Travis, I didn't realize that it was you that posted this. I will be sending a donation shortly I'm so sad to hear that this has happened to you all of the people involved. Aggressive driving or not, it is a shame and a sad day when someone loses their life. Having spoken to David before throughout the years, it is shocking to see that things like this can hit home. I also believe that the media and other assholes always go out and assume that just because you drive a sports car you are driving recklessly. I have too witnessed an accident in a sport car caravan, and in reality, no one was driving crazy it just sort of happened and someone also lost their life. You guys have my 100% faith and I hope everything works out well in the near future.

David, did you carry liability insurance?

RIP. Sad day to see a fellow Marylander DSMer pass. I hope the families will be able to move on in a productive life. I am sure the driver would certainly take back everything if he could. I hope that the vehicular manslaugghter charges are dropped if the accounts from other community members are true.

As for Jrod at Buscher, the report said the suv passengers only had minor injuries. I don't feel like anyone was being insensitive, just commenting on someon they know of, not a stranger.

Sorry to hear about your loss and my thoughts and prayers go out to you and your families.

i'm so sorry to hear about this!! i.... really don't kno what to say but i hope the best for all those involved....

somdturbo said:

Ok. To fill everyone in here. I am still in Norwalk. Billy, a close friend and family member of ours is no longer with us. We thank everyone who participated in the moment of silence at the track today. I'm sure Billy would be very greatful. Billy doesnt have much, and the few family members he has also do not have much. His friends (us) are going to do everything we can do for the funeral. If you would like to donate anything to help with the funeral costs it is greatly appreciated. He will have to be taken care of here in Norwalk and then transported to Maryland for the remaining procedures and funeral.

-This is the story-

Me, Haley, Steve, and Ron were riding in my evo. David, Chrissy (his gf), and Billy were riding in his talon. Our two cars left Best Western in search for food. Every year we head to Sandusky for a decent dinner. This time our trip to Sandusky ended tragically. David was following me while traveling down route 250. I was in the right lane and a Cavelier was traveling to my back left corner. David was behind the cavelier and attempted to switch lanes to get directly behind me. At the same moment the car ahead of me was stopped in the road suddenly. I braked suddenly to avoid collision. At this point David was changing lanes behind me, saw my brake lights, and then swirved to the right of my car to avoid collision with me. A disabled car happened to be in the shoulder when David swirved into the shoulder. He locked up his brakes and swirved into the dirt/grass to the right of the shoulder to avoid the disabled car. The car lost control and started sliding sideways. David tried to control the car without much luck. The car slid sideways infront of me and surrounding traffic. His talon continued to slide into oncomming traffic, with a few cars avoiding him. A black toyota four-runner was unable to avoid collision- David's car was "t-boned" on the passenger side. The toyota rolled several times before coming to a stop.

***David was not driving recklessly like some reports say. Nobody was street racing or doing anything abnormal. It could of been any of us. ***

David had a few cuts and scrapes but Chrissy and Billy were injured fairly bad. Two helo's flew them to St Vincents Mercy Hospital for treatment. Both Chrissy and Billy were in critical condition. One second the doctors told us Billy was doing great. He seemed ok at the accident but had some leg injuries. The next second the doctors informed us that we lost Billy due to internal bleeding. Steve and Billy are cousins. But Steve is his father figure. He lives with him, feeds him, clothes him, etc. The loss of Billy is like losing a son to steve. And a very good friend of ours.

Chrissy (Davids gf) is still in critical condition but her healing process has already started. Her family is with her and we are visiting her periodically. Chrissy is a very strong girl and will pull through great. So far she is doing really well and I hope everyone will pray for her recovery.

As for all of us. Friends and Family of Billy- its hard. Its honestly the hardest thing I have ever had to deal with. I can speak for my friends and say the same. Please keep us in your prayers. Pray that Chrissy will continue a solid, healthy recovery.

Paypal for funeral cost donations:
[email protected]

Thank you all in advance for everything. The DSM community is like no other, and an event like this tears me apart. It seems like a bad dream, but I cant seem to wake up...

-Travis

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Good to get the truth. Funny how just because it was a sports car, he had to be driving like an asshole. I guess people in DSMs don't drive normal, nor get into accidents from non-reckless/racing conditions.

#### the media and #### everyone on Talk. Those comments are the reason I haven't been there in a year or so. I hate that site. Way too many internet tough-guys.

That aside, RIP William. And to you, David, I am sorry for the shit cards you were dealt. I can't imagine what you're going through. Especially with everyone on the internet doing that they do best: not knowing a God damn thing about what they're commenting on and saying disgusting and rude things they would never say to their target in person.

Reggie

Talk has nothing to do with anything.

Idiots are idiots regardless of their forum preferences.

Carry on with the condolences, but don't stir unnecessary shit.

Jrod, the SUV only rolled once which was onto the drivers side. Welles got out and his girlfriend or whatever she was from the passenger side window. Then he started flipping out on David and everyone else there trying to start a fight with people that looked lifeless. I know adrenaline is a big factor here but that was a little to much to see him try and do that.

The 2 occupants of the SUV did not look bad to me whatsoever, I saw no blood and they were both talking fine. I agree with your standpoint though. Most people are going to talk about David because he is a member here and because William had passed away.

My prayers go out to everyone involved

Get the kid a GOOD lawyer.. this Sucks for everyone involved..

I don't know if it is the right David or not but does his girlfriend drive a blue 2g gst.

RIP Billy, great kid who had alot going for him.

This is so ####ed up, the first im hearing of it now. Dave is a good friend of mine. ####ing great kid, I hope his gf makes a good recovery and the truth of what really happened comes out in court.

My condolensces to the family, and RIP William.

jrod@buschur said:

Nice to see the majority of you guys are worried about "your own" and no one else involved in the accident.

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That's strange, I just read several posts in which people stated their concerns for everyone involved.

I don't even know anybody involved, but it feels like family when we're all part of a community. RIP William. It's really sad to hear about such a tragic event happening to such young people. I hope and pray for all the victims involved, especially those close to William. Hopefully the evidence will reveal the truth. Regardless of how it happened, my prayers are with David and his family.

Sorry for your loss David. It happens to the best of us. Your friend is in a better place now. I hope your girlfriend comes out of the hospital soon.

Man this really sucks big time sorry to hear My prayers go out to all of those affected by this terrible accident.

I would just like to clear up what I said to Reggie, I confused him with a guy on dsmtalk and did not mean to go off on him. Sorry about that again Reggie, theres just so many people talking bad about some great guys.

This really makes me sad to see stuff like this happen...But Its a BIG lesson for us all to learn....SLOW down, Stay in your lane, Dont Pass, Wear the Damn seatbelts, and dont try to show off.

Im not saying They were doing anything wrong, or street racing or anything like that. Sometimes life just teaches you lessons in a HARSH way....

It is very bad what had happened, I feel for the parents of these young kids that had to get that call that they were in an accident and for the parents of the young guy that died. They have one that they have to bury.

My heart goes out to all involved in the accident. Just remember it was not intentional they call it an accident for a reason.

like I said before they will try to make an example out the driver, get a lawyer and have them find people that were there get all the info that you can. A young kid driving a fast car it is going to be hard to get people to listen to you when its something like this happen.

Try to stay strong.

i saw this wreck right after it happened. i dident know what to say or do. i feel very bad. i really hope his family and friends will be ok. my best wishes go out to those who need it most.

jrod..... f em. dont let them get under your skin. there not worth it. and it was also GREAT to meat you. your a cool dude in my book. talk to you soon.