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I am getting some konig feather 17" and i need some help with tires and the size
my car is not lowered and i am not planning on lowering it for a while theres other stuff i will do first...
 
I have 215/50/r17 on my car. I'm running the Continential ContiExtreme tires. They are great in the snow. Pretty cheap too.

I plan on getting another used set of rims to mount some summer tires on though, I'd like to keep the tread depth for next winter. I'm just not sure how well they'd hold up to the summer heat.
 
im looking for summer tires im keeping the stock rims for winter cause the car came with brand new tires no i will check that out i was more looking for advice as to cheap high performance summer tires and what you guys find works

thank you wret that certainly helped with tire size and offset now i just need some advice on what ones...

preferably under 150 ea. and 225/45/17
 
1. My car is a:
b) 2g DSM

2. My wheel size is:
Diameter: 16
Width: 205
Offset: Stock? Not quite sure.

3. My current or future suspension height will be lowered
e)Not planning on changing.

4. If suspension is lowered,
N/A

5. Rear fender flange rolling:
b) I will not roll the fenders.

6. My driving style is:
b) Street only, but I like to feel secure on twisty roads.


7. I have searched for and read the FAQ's, Tech Articles, and threads on wheel and tire fitment:
a) Yes, but I just need someone with experience to validate my choices.


Based on this diagram:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/fre...tions/286685-will-these-wheels-tires-fit.html

It appears that my best bet, if I go with 17's, would be 215/50/17,for the best fit and to avoid having to roll the fenders.

I am currently looking at :

http://edgeracing.com/1995/Mitsubishi/Eclipse/bundle/3559/

With the second tire (Nexen N5000) for 17's

or

http://edgeracing.com/1995/Mitsubishi/Eclipse/bundle/3684/

To keep the stock size (first tire, Nexen N5000).


My questions are:

How can I tell if the offset will be correct, what should I be looking for as I don't see it on their website? With this size, per the chart linked above, all offsets should have perfect clearance.

If I do go with the 17's, what effect will that have on my speedometer?

I'm sure there are other questions I am missing, but which would you guys suggest?



Thank you.
 
I do not recommend 17-inch tires on 16-wheels. They may rattle around a bit.

You will be fine with more common 225/45/17's on 17-inch wheels with offset (ET) somewhere around 40-46mm.
 
Where did you get that? I know that, I'm not quite sure where you would infer that's what I meant?
 
If you want 17's go with 222/45/17. If you want 18's go with 225/40/18. Both are "equivalent" to stock overall diameter and they wont affect your speedometer at all. The offset of the rims on my car is a +38 and they sit flush with the body of my car. I run 18's with 225/40/18's and eibach pro kit springs and i don't have a problem with tire rub. Unless i get a couple fat asses in the back :thumb:
 
Wret, I'm sorry, I must have linked to the wheels from a local cache, I thought they would show up. I was linking to 17" wheels, with a 17" tire. My answer to the form was that my current tire is 16", I am looking to go up in size. Sorry for the confusion. I know better than to throw 17" tires on my stockers...
I guess this is what I meant: "It appears that my best bet for tire sizes, if I go with 17" wheels..."
 
My choices for offsets are 35 and 42 for the 17" wheels (Enkei Rs7). I don't see 35 listed on the chart referenced above, so 42 would be good, looks like good clearance on stock suspension? And it won't change my speedometer reading? This is great, I was looking to go to 17" wheels once I saw that they were a little cheaper, and I am glad that this is a possibility and won't break anything (or me, LOL).

Thank you guys so much.
 
Yes, 225/45/17 on the 17-inch +42mm offset would be fine.

[/sarcasm on]
If you want to use 17-inch tires on 16-inch wheels you will need a one-inch spacer.
[sarcasm off]
 
LOL, I'll look into that.

My current stockers are bent, warped, and cracked, spacers wouldn't help those. The shop didn't even know what was holding my tire on as the wheel bearing was completley destroyed and the tire moved about three inches. I shouldn't be driving on that wheel as it is.

Thanks for the help guys, I'm ordering the Enkei Rs7 (17x7) with a 42 offset with Nexen N5000 225/45/R17 for $599 ($664 shipped to my door). You all have made this purchase a lot easier, and eased my nerves (as well as my wifes, who knows that I trust you).

Thanks again!
 
I'm looking to replace my bald ass tires (on 98 GSX) and thought, hey DSM Tuners is the shit and I might find some good advice or experiences from others.

So I searched found some stuff and then came across the "Tire Size Recommendation Request" thread. They talked a lot about tire sizes and rim sizes but nowhere did I find some key information and that's.....rolling diameter. When you change the size of a tire and the section height (or profile) you impact things like the speedometer and gearing.

The following is how to calculate tire dimensions or rolling diameter. This info can also be found on Tire Rack.com:
Width x Aspect Ratio = Section Height
Section Height x 2 = Combined Section Height
Combined Section Height + Wheel Diameter = Tire Diameter
Example: 185/60R14
185mm x .60 = 111mm
111mm x 2 = 222mm
222mm + 355.6mm(14") = 577.6mm or 22.74"
577.6mm divided by 25.4 = 22.74" (convert mm to inches)
Add 15% to get max. recommended rolling diameter: 22.74 x 1.15 = 26.15"

Now you just insert your new numbers to see if you new setup falls between the two numbers: the stock rolling diameter & the new numbers.

I set the equations up in Excel so that I could show customers what sizes they can put on their car.
 
215/45R17 is extremely close to stock size for 2G, but they are narrow tires for GST...

By the way, 1010tires dot com has a calculator in tech section for this. And also ton of tire related info.
 
The biggest problem with a calculator like this is that it assumes that all tire manufactures measure their tires the same in regards to width. If the widths aren't compatible then it throws off the entire calculation. The best bet is to go to the actual manufacturer's website and look up their specs on the tires overall diameter. My 275/40-17 Falken RT-615's are wider than the 275/40-17's that my dad has on the front of his Mustang by a small margin even though they're mounted on identical wheels.
 
Both you guys are correct. I think the reason Tire Rack & a lot of others say to keep it within the 15% max of stock rolling diameter due to the measurement differences.

I was just trying to point out other specs people need to be aware of when drastically changing wheel size. Now, I only skimmed that thread so it could have been there.

What I love is when I get guys roll into the shop (I own a shop in Des Moines) with 26" rims on a Caprice, Tahoe, Escalade - whatever - and want to know why the brakes are crap when they just did them 6 months ago. It's a little thing called WEIGHT & A WHOLE BUNCH OF PHYSICS!!!!

Also, thanks for the website tip on tire info. Man, there is just shitloads of info out there about tire - makes my head spin!!!

I'm just looking for a quality, $70-$100 a tire. I don't plan on driving it this winter, but I want that option open, so I need a good all season. I do run it at the dragstrip at least a couple of times a year.
 
alright i've read the other posts and it did not answer my question for my 95 fwd talon

I bought 205/70/14
stock is 195/60/14

There is very little room as is with 195 between the stabilizer on the back side and the 195.

the 205's dont seem that much wider.. but will i have to modify anything get some spacers?

Or will it be fine the way it is.. I wanna buy some steel rims and keep the old tires/rims incase something happens.

will these 205's be fine on my car.. tirerack guy was kinda ify saying they would be a full inch wider then the 195...

the tires are P205/70R-14 KUMHO SOLUS KR21

Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing
helps alot

measurements are in desending order from left of listed.


Stock Tire - 195/70R14 >Search Tires Tire 1 - 205/70R14 >Search Tires Tire 2 - 225/55R16 >Search Tires
Section Width: 7.67 in 195 mm
Section Width: 8.07 in 205 mm
Section Width: 8.85 in 225 mm

Rim Diameter: 14 in 355.6 mm
Rim Diameter: 14 in 355.6 mm
Rim Diameter: 16 in 406.4 mm

Rim Width Range: 5.5 - 7 in
Rim Width Range: 5 - 7.5 in
Rim Width Range: 6 - 8 in

Overall Diameter: 24.74 in 628.39 mm
Overall Diameter: 25.29 in 642.36 mm
Overall Diameter: 25.74 in 653.79 mm

Sidewall Height: 5.37 in 136.39 mm
Sidewall Height: 5.64 in 143.25 mm
Sidewall Height: 4.87 in 123.69 mm

Radius: 12.37 in 314.19 mm
Radius: 12.64 in 321.05 mm
Radius: 12.87 in 326.89 mm

Circumference: 77.72 in 1974.0 mm
Circumference: 79.45 in 2018.0 mm
Circumference: 80.86 in 2053.8 mm

Revs per Mile: 840.7
Revs per Mile: 822.4
Revs per Mile: 808.0

Actual Speed: 60 mph 100 km/h
Speedometer1: 58.6 mph 97.8 km/h
Speedometer1: 57.6 mph 96.1 km/h

Speedometer Difference: - Speedometer Difference: 2.225% too slow Speedometer Difference: 4.047% too slow
Diameter Difference: - Diameter Difference: 2.18% Diameter Difference: 3.89%


the 225/16 is the largest i found in a quick google search. and is 2 inches wider i expect these tires to move alot.. the 205's 70.. could rub in hard corners.. only like .50 in left for play... the tire sits right next to the bottom mount of this stabilizer bar.. but even under hard corners the bulge should clear fine..

they look too tall unmounted.. i'm hopeing they will fill in more that 2 inches...it'll bring down the overal circumference.

I think i have 5inch rims as well.. i shouldn't ave any problems really. LOLz in users rating this tire has handled better then higher performance tires.. we'll see

this is too funny..

LOLz
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225/40/18 sounds like a very good tire choice with your rim specs, but yeah find out first what your actual offset is..
 
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